Is Cam Newton an MVP candidate?

[Rock Strongo]

From a friend on another board ( panthers fan, sadly)

"Cam's a legit MVP candidate for an undefeated team. This is a fact. Go google something."

his comp% has dropped each of the last 3 years, as has his rating.


my argument?

he has a lower rating than kaepernick, who just got benched.

hes barely above sam bradford right now

sam bradford!

hes 28th in passing YPG

28th

25th in yards

11 TD's and 8 picks

 

[Rock Strongo]

vote and discuss

 

[packerzrule]

regardless of his stats, it only matters how important he is to his team

take him away and they are a 2-5 team at best

 

[Rod Smart]

Cam Newton, Greg Olsen, and Ryan Kalil are the only NFL caliber players on the offense. Maybe Jonathan Stewart, pending his next injury.
Go google that depth chart





He's not an MVP candidate because the MVP [foolishly] goes to the sexiest quarterback statistics, but he's carrying that shitmouth team.

 

[Rock Strongo]

regardless of his stats, it only matters how important he is to his team

take him away and they are a 2-5 team at best

he was 5-8-1 last year as a starter.

with benjamin.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

regardless of his stats, it only matters how important he is to his team

take him away and they are a 2-5 team at best

That's what I'd say too. Too many people argue stats for MVP, but if that were the case they wouldn't need writers to vote on who should win, they could just find the guy with gaudiest stats and crown them MVP.

 

[packerzrule]

that was last year

now they don't have Benjamin and are 7-0

not sure what point you're trying to make

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Uh, no. The collective play of that defense, the fact they've played:

Jacksonville, Houston, everyone in the NFC South spare Atlanta (who face it is no match for Carolina's defense), a VAUNTED Chip Kelly team, and Andrew "The Turnover" Luck.

Seattle at CLINK was impressive... but you can thank Seattle's blown 4th quarter lead and quite possibly the worst OL in Seattle history (and prob. of every current active NFL roster) against a good D for that one.

If they beat Green Bay I'll take Carolina seriously, but this team reminds me of that Falcons team a few years back that was on the undefeated road then get throttled in the playoffs basically blowing it and requiring a miracle comeback against Seattle then getting smoked by SF.

 

[Balljim55]

From a friend on another board ( panthers fan, sadly)

"Cam's a legit MVP candidate for an undefeated team. This is a fact. Go google something."

his comp% has dropped each of the last 3 years, as has his rating.


my argument?

he has a lower rating than kaepernick, who just got benched.

hes barely above sam bradford right now

sam bradford!

hes 28th in passing YPG

28th

25th in yards

11 TD's and 8 picks

he is definitely not in the MVSP (most valuable statistical performance) which we all know is much more important than wins and losses. Having said that, his overall performance is stellar if you are looking for a winner and a leader.
Do I think he is the MVP so far this year - No, I would give that nod to Brady. But to be so shallow as to use only statistics to make this determination is asinine.

 

[Rock Strongo]

That's what I'd say too. Too many people argue stats for MVP, but if that were the case they wouldn't need writers to vote on who should win, they could just find the guy with gaudiest stats and crown them MVP.

he could be his teams MVP, sure. league?

no way.

 

[Rock Strongo]

more

 

[kramer1]

No. He's a larger than life character, though. He has a cool nickname. He's not a very good QB.

 

[Rock Strongo]

No. He's a larger than life character, though. He has a cool nickname. He's not a very good QB.

sounds right

 

[kramer1]

sounds right

The stats don't lie. They never have.

He's a great runner with the ball. He's not a great QB. Nor will he ever be one.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

he could be his teams MVP, sure. league?

no way.

I'm not saying I think he's the league MVP by any stretch. Only that that seems to be the way "experts" pick the MVP. Plus "experts" tend to pick a favorite early in the year and it takes an act of God to make them change their minds. That is why Rodgers got it last year IMO. Watt should have won with the season he had.

 

[Rock Strongo]

I'm not saying I think he's the league MVP by any stretch. Only that that seems to be the way "experts" pick the MVP. Plus "experts" tend to pick a favorite early in the year and it takes an act of God to make them change their minds. That is why Rodgers got it last year IMO. Watt should have won with the season he had.

so, is he a legit mvp candidate or not?

and hilariously, my mexican friend is referencing kordell stewart finishing 3rd one year.

on purpose.

 

[sonnyblack65]

The stats don't lie. They never have.

He's a great runner with the ball. He's not a great QB. Nor will he ever be one.

He made some real nice throws last night and some ugly ones. He can be very good if he grews the fuck up, stops that stupid superman dance or stupid shit after a first down. And get rid of the towel over head, this aint boxing

 

[kramer1]

He made some real nice throws last night and some ugly ones. He can be very good if he grews the fuck up, stops that stupid superman dance or stupid shit after a first down. And get rid of the towel over head, this aint boxing

That's never going to happen. No explanation required.

 

[kramer1]

His "best" season was his rookie season. This is shaping out to be his worst season stat wise. Go figure that.

 

[sonnyblack65]

so, is he a legit mvp candidate or not?

and hilariously, my mexican friend is referencing kordell stewart finishing 3rd one year.

on purpose.

You associate with messicans, that's your first problem. Remember we live in New England and especially if you live within 60 miles of Bahston, we are all racists