Is Baker Mayfield a Bust?

[dtgold88]

If Baker didn't throw a fit and demand a trade, they likely would have kept him and started him during the suspension. Not sure why the Browns getting a superior QB upset him so much. The problem is Baker thinks he is better than he really is. Ego without anything to back it up if you will...

OBJ pointed out how much of a scrub Baker is loud and clear...And none of his teammates disagreed

Upset him so much because he asked to be traded and not be a backup?

 

[dtgold88]

If the Browns didn't say they wanted an adult at QB then go trade for the sex assault Watson, Baker wouldn't have asked for a trade.

Likely just trading for watson was enough...doubt he cared about a fake comment attributed to no one.

 

[dtgold88]

He wasn't released because we haven't even gotten to the summer camps. Let alone the start of the pre season. No one knows if he would've been released or not. But the evidence would point in the direction, worst case he would've.

You were wrong.

This wasn't fan driven either.

He didn't want to be a Brownie any longer proven by sacraficing $3.5M and all the other "rumors".

The Brownie new "very good FO" didn't want him as evidenced by their "unfounded childish comments", eating more then 1/2 his salary and taking whatever offer they could in an attempt to salvage anything. They "mutually" agreed for him to miss OTAs.


You're too cute to think otherwise. Or just dumb enough not to admit it.

Then again no big deal. You are used to being wrong.

me - "I dont think Baker will ever play again for the Browns (25% chance at best)."

How was I wrong?

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[dtgold88]

Yeah they're close. Well maybe not that close. This isn't a discussion about almost or close. But keep trying to move those goal posts by yourself.

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you - Browns FO is awful at drafting
me - name an awful pick they made
you - named bad picks by previous regimes, named good picks, named mid-late rounders who were backups and only picked a year ago

 

[dtgold88]

View attachment 301321As long as dt keeps posting, I'll have a six pack in no time.

you - Browns FO is awful at drafting
me - name an awful pick they made
you - named bad picks by previous regimes, named good picks, named mid-late rounders who were backups and only picked a year ago

 

[wilwhite]

Oh a lot of teams are possible in theory. I just don't think Mayfield will be viewed as a answer at QB after this season.

I posted elsewhere that I think if he starts every game he’ll get 4K yards and 30 TDs.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I posted elsewhere that I think if he starts every game he’ll get 4K yards and 30 TDs.

Well I doubt he does that, what about interceptions?

 

[Manster7588]

I mean, I showed you my exact post and there are many more like it. Thought at best a 25% chance he'd stay.

would I have kept him over Brissett if either had to play entire season? I'd certainly prefer to go with baker or someone better than JB.

You also suggested if The Browns offered Baker a 4 year deal he'd take it.

 

[Wamu]

Well I doubt he does that, what about interceptions?

Had to look this up. BM's never thrown more int's than TD's in any season. Came close in '19 when he had 22 & 21.

Somewhere between 15 & 20?

As far as 30 TD's. His best was his rookie year. 27 in 14 games (13 starts). I don't know what kinda wr's & te's the Panthers have. So won't take a guess on that one.

 

[dtgold88]

You also suggested if The Browns offered Baker a 4 year deal he'd take it.

And I still believe he'd have taken a 4 year deal if he could be the starter and the money was what he wanted. So? Not sure why you think this matters or felt the need to move the goal posts.

 

[Manster7588]

And I still believe he'd have taken a 4 year deal if he could be the starter and the money was what he wanted. So? Not sure why you think this matters or felt the need to move the goal posts.

He would not have signed a 4 year deal with Watson under contract.
No Way No How. You're just lying to yourself.

 

[dtgold88]

He would not have signed a 4 year deal with Watson under contract.
No Way No How. You're just lying to yourself.

Not so sure bout this...only sure with Watson under contract the browns wouldn't offer it.

also not sure why it's relevant to you saying the following......."Excuse me. I'm pretty sure you said the Browns should keep him just in case Watson is suspended for multiple games. I know many who you're currently attempting to throw dirt at said Baker will not play for Cleveland again."

Then me reminding you I said many times "I don't think baker ever plays for us again (less than 25% chance). "

 

[ElPatron1]

Upset him so much because he asked to be traded and not be a backup?

Nah, he tried to be slick and ask for a trade before the Browns added Watson. He tried to sabotage the organization for improving the roster because he was salty. That is partially why no other team wanted him, beside the fact that he is too short and not good at football lol

 

[dtgold88]

Nah, he tried to be slick and ask for a trade before the Browns added Watson. He tried to sabotage the organization for improving the roster because he was salty. That is partially why no other team wanted him, beside the fact that he is too short and not good at football lol

Asking to be traded means he was upset and he sabotaged the team? Teams didn't want him more because of the $19 mil cap hit and they either had their QB or planned to tank (or both).

 

[wilwhite]

Well I doubt he does that, what about interceptions?

Mid-teens.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Mid-teens.

OK I say we review end of season for a “I told you so”

 

[dtgold88]

OK I say we review end of season for a “I told you so”

30 TDs and 13-16 INTs? I think you'll be giving the I-Told-You-So.

Unless you just make it a 2-1 TD to INT ratio as that could be a push.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Mid-teens.

I was thinking 13-16
CMac if healthy will get him a lot of YAC.
I agree with you on the possible over 4k & 30 TDs.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

you - Browns FO is awful at drafting
me - name an awful pick they made
you - named bad picks by previous regimes, named good picks, named mid-late rounders who were backups and only picked a year ago

I think you need to go learn more about your team.

Oh and stop changing what was asked and answered.

But we're all used to doing you.
The broken record continues to spin. Your response\/
"Me asking you to name or what players are very good.
You...
you - Browns FO is awful at drafting
me - name an awful pick they made"

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I see instead of a lie day for you it will be showing your lack of comprehension? Still time for both as only noon.

Priceless, princess so what isn't true here.

I think you might have CTE from being slapped around so much.

Got to love this forum