Interesting Tweet regarding UNC

[Smart]

I have worked with and around A LOT of student athletes and this is such a cheap and intellectually elitist attitude. It is also flat wrong in many cases. There are bad apples, for sure. However, the prevalence of lazy, slack ass bad apples is actually a bit higher in the general student population than it is in the student athlete population.

90% of the student athletes that I have worked with are hard working, smart students. In addition, their organization and time management skills are a lot better than most undergrads.

I hate the "student athlete" stereotype.....

I agree with you in general. The difference is that the general population doesn't have their bad apples working closely with an "academic support staff" to make sure they take the right classes. Plus, athletes get to register for classes first, so even if everyone knows about an easy class, they will get all the spots. At Wisconsin, I could name you a few classes which are notoriously easy and fill requirements for graduation. Almost all of the classes will be filled with athletes.

 

[hokiegrad]

The thing is that isn't an athletics problem at all. Its not like these classes are some big secret or only for athletes.

We're not just talking about easy classes here. We're talking about fraudulent classes. Let's not muddy the waters.

Why were these fraudulent classes setup? You really think it had nothing to do with benefiting athletes? If it really didn't, then I'd agree with you, nothing for the NCAA to do here. But I don't buy that without an investigation that comes to that conclusion.

As Smart pointed out, athletes get first access. Because of that, if you wanted to benefit athletes by setting up fraudulent classes, you easily could without them being well-kept secrets. And I don't think we really know how well these classes were kept secret, either. There were some non-athletes, but there were way more athletes.

 

[Ballboy534]

The UNCheat athletic program needs to be hammered for this; absolutely no excuse for setting up fraudulent classes and allowing this to go on.

 

[VTscores]

The UNCheat athletic program needs to be hammered for this; absolutely no excuse for setting up fraudulent classes and allowing this to go on.

I agree. Just letting in non-athletes can't provide cover for fraudulent classes.

Easy is one thing. Not requiring students to do assignments is something else.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

The UNC scandal is much worse than the Miami one IMO.

 

[robV703]

This could be interesting...

Judge allows access to business-related calls on Butch Davis' cellphone - UNC academic scandal - NewsObserver.com

 

[Lumbee09]

Looks like PackPride may have dug up Julius Pepper's academic transcript. If it's actually his (which shows fraudulent classes), then the UNC academic scandal dates back as early as 2000. Could lead to even more trouble for them.

Transcript in UNC probe may be Peppers' - Local/State - NewsObserver.com

 

[BornaHokie]

Packpride didnt dig it up UNC posted it lol , and changed the birthdate up a month. PP figured out it was Peppers and then the UNC site pulled the transcript. Now ESPN and The Sporting News are questiong the NCAA why they arn't investigating again; PP does have the best up to date coverage on this.

 

[robV703]

Why on earth would UNC post the transcript of a former student? Isn't that illegal? My thought was maybe a disgruntled teacher did it.

 

[ACC_HOKIES]

Why on earth would UNC post the transcript of a former student? Isn't that illegal? My thought was maybe a disgruntled teacher did it.

I had the same question. Based on my experience, it's not easy getting your own information let alone the information for someone else. It was a pain just to have my degree "verified" from Tech (it's basicially a piece of paper with my name degree, year, and a seal). My wife has to purchase copies of transcripts. Seems it's really hard to release that stuff by accident.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

UNC is the biggest fan of the PSU scandal on the planet right now.

 

[Ballboy534]

I vow to bump this thread daily until the Tarholes have been punished.

 

[HoHumHokie]

Good stuff here:

North Carolina cheated and prospered, now it's time for reckoning - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and BCS Rankings

Did the Agent for Julius Peppers Create a Website to Smear a Reporter Covering the UNC Academic Scandal? | The Big Lead

 

[NickVT10]

This thread is over 15 months old and new shit is still coming up. If there is talk about losing accreditation then UNC warrants discussion as well. They are defying the core values of a university.

 

[VTscores]

Why so little press coverage of this story?

 

[757Hokie83]

Good stuff here:

North Carolina cheated and prospered, now it's time for reckoning - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and BCS Rankings

Did the Agent for Julius Peppers Create a Website to Smear a Reporter Covering the UNC Academic Scandal? | The Big Lead

"Guess who is the agent for Julius Peppers? A man named Carl Carey! Guess who was the tutor for Peppers at UNC? A man named Carl Carey!"

that alone ought to raise a few eyebrows

 

[uncfan103]

UNC is the biggest fan of the PSU scandal on the planet right now.

The penn state punishments were pretty harsh and in terms of actual NCAA violations and penalties I think Carolina may be in a worse position. If all of this turns out to be true and as bad as it sounds like its getting unc could get hit harder. After the Penn st scandal there is no way the NCAA will just ignore what's going on

 

[ACC_HOKIES]

This thread is over 15 months old and new shit is still coming up. If there is talk about losing accreditation then UNC warrants discussion as well. They are defying the core values of a university.

The best thing is that over the course of the entire deal we've heard things that are beyond belief. Yet later many of those things are verified (example: Davis tutor employment). You simply can't write a script crazier than some of this stuff!

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

This thread is over 15 months old and new shit is still coming up. If there is talk about losing accreditation then UNC warrants discussion as well. They are defying the core values of a university.

The best thing is that over the course of the entire deal we've heard things that are beyond belief. Yet later many of those things are verified (example: Davis tutor employment). You simply can't write a script crazier than some of this stuff!

I agree, 100%.

If you or I had done the things they did at Miami, Ohio State or USF, nothing would have come of it. Hell, some rich kids do that kind of shit all of the time (boats and hos) on Daddy's Amex. If we took part in what happened at UNC, we would have been kicked out of school.

 

[Ballboy534]