Interesting Q&A session

[BsGenius]

Players need to be held accountable and the team lost confidence in Parky. It was 100% the right call to release him.

NOT if he's still the best option available.

Finding a kicker is not that easy.

Why is this so hard? Everyone is missing the point.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

NOT if he's still the best option available.

Finding a kicker is not that easy.

Why is this so hard? Everyone is missing the point.

I get what your saying BS. We could have kept him till we found a better replacement.

 

[BsGenius]

I get what your saying BS. We could have kept him till we found a better replacement.

Bingo. Glad to see someone else can read. I swear I have to repeat myself 5x for everything and the idiots still don’t understand.

 

[BearsWillWin]

I have a hard time believing that a guy that missed 11 kicks last season would be our best possible option this season.

When you add to it that what he did after the playoff game plays a factor in the locker room....cutting him was 100% the right thing to do.

 

[Jiddy]

I can't make this any clearer. Its very very possible Piniero (and the other guy) could be worse than Parkey. Because all reports are saying so. I understand the emotion of cutting Parkey. But logically speaking, you want the best man for the job. And Parkey is looking right now as the better kicker among 3 guys whom all aren't very good. As much as we hate Parkey, he did have success in the NFL in the past.

It's not rocket science. You want to keep the best guy even if that guy is the best among a group of poor players.

I don't know why this is even an argument. The only logical explanation is that you're an idiot.

RE the bold: Oh, so you don't know.

Reports don't mean sh*t thus far. 95% of the time spent so far with our kickers has been out of the media's eye.

But fair enough. Parkey may be better. That is possible. I'll make you a deal. Parkey is your guy. You stick with him and I'll stick with Pinero (or whoever the other Bears option is if they go elsewhere). Let's see who has a better career from this point forward.

I mean, Parkey is pretty good right? If he's not the worst kicker in the league, somebody will take him. And you'll be able to Robbie Gould me in a couple seasons showing how well he did. Well, unless you don't actually think somebody will sign him?****

In which case you're argument is let's keep one of the worst kickers in the NFL that no other team wants, the fanbase hates, the coach has basically given an indirect finger to, and is a proven choker at the NFL level-rather than try to improve........which makes sense for somebody who's biggest arguments on this board are usually anchored by the classic "You're an idiot" summation. Vive le emphasis!


****spoiler alert: Nobody's going to take him.

 

[BearsWillWin]

The Bears desperately needed a kicker a while back when Paul Edinger was coming off a couple really crappy seasons and new starter Doug Brien got hurt.

They signed Robbie Gould...a kicker that had been undrafted and waived by a couple teams and had most recently been working a construction job. Barely any Bears fan had ever heard of Gould's name when the Bears signed him. But that worked out.

There's a good chance the Bears future kicker is on another roster right now or sitting at home waiting for a call. And he could be someone you've never heard of.

No one is gonna look back this season and miss Parkey.

 

[Jiddy]

The Bears desperately needed a kicker a while back when Paul Edinger was coming off a couple really crappy seasons and new starter Doug Brien got hurt.

They signed Robbie Gould...a kicker that had been undrafted and waived by a couple teams and had most recently been working a construction job. Barely any Bears fan had ever heard of Gould's name when the Bears signed him. But that worked out.

There's a good chance the Bears future kicker is on another roster right now or sitting at home waiting for a call. And he could be someone you've never heard of.

No one is gonna look back this season and miss Parkey.

I know one guy that already does. His name is bsgenius.

 

[BsGenius]

I have a hard time believing that a guy that missed 11 kicks last season would be our best possible option this season.

When you add to it that what he did after the playoff game plays a factor in the locker room....cutting him was 100% the right thing to do.

I can easily imagine a kicker being worse. Neither Fry nor Piniero has ever kicked professionally in an actual NFL game. Oh it can get much much worse. To think otherwise would show severe lack of common sense.

 

[BsGenius]

RE the bold: Oh, so you don't know.

Reports don't mean sh*t thus far. 95% of the time spent so far with our kickers has been out of the media's eye.

But fair enough. Parkey may be better. That is possible. I'll make you a deal. Parkey is your guy. You stick with him and I'll stick with Pinero (or whoever the other Bears option is if they go elsewhere). Let's see who has a better career from this point forward.

I mean, Parkey is pretty good right? If he's not the worst kicker in the league, somebody will take him. And you'll be able to Robbie Gould me in a couple seasons showing how well he did. Well, unless you don't actually think somebody will sign him?****

In which case you're argument is let's keep one of the worst kickers in the NFL that no other team wants, the fanbase hates, the coach has basically given an indirect finger to, and is a proven choker at the NFL level-rather than try to improve........which makes sense for somebody who's biggest arguments on this board are usually anchored by the classic "You're an idiot" summation. Vive le emphasis!

****spoiler alert: Nobody's going to take him.

1. It's not hard to gauge how well a kicker is doing by the media
2. I never said Parkey was pretty good
3. Your nonsensical blabbering and your inability to grasp the point cements your idiocy

 

[BearsWillWin]

I can easily imagine a kicker being worse. Neither Fry nor Piniero has ever kicked professionally in an actual NFL game. Oh it can get much much worse. To think otherwise would show severe lack of common sense.

Of course it could get worse. But it can also get a lot better. Any kicker we go with could miss 9 kicks this season and be an improvement.

The standard is pretty low right now.

This is a team that talks about accountability a lot. If they didn’t cut Parkey those words are hollow.

 

[BearsWillWin]

We know what Parkey brought to the table.

And his psyche is probably shot. Kickers are like closers...a ton of what they do is mental.

Moving on was totally the right thing to do.

 

[BsGenius]

The Bears desperately needed a kicker a while back when Paul Edinger was coming off a couple really crappy seasons and new starter Doug Brien got hurt.

They signed Robbie Gould...a kicker that had been undrafted and waived by a couple teams and had most recently been working a construction job. Barely any Bears fan had ever heard of Gould's name when the Bears signed him. But that worked out.

There's a good chance the Bears future kicker is on another roster right now or sitting at home waiting for a call. And he could be someone you've never heard of.

No one is gonna look back this season and miss Parkey.

lol

Finding a diamond in the rough like we did with Robbie Gould has no bearing on our current situation. No one said it's not possible. No one said Fry or Piniero will not be better than Parkey. No one said we're definitely going to miss Parkey. No one said we can't find a construction worker in the middle of Chicago and turn him into the next Dick Butkus. Obviously anything is possible. (rolls eyes)

I was merely entertaining the smarter choice of having Parkey here and have him battle it out with Piniero and Fry (even maybe giving these new guys the heavy advantage) to keep the best man standing. (I understand there may be financial implications involved but my point stands).

But to have so many people unanimously agree on the knee jerk cut Parkey bandwagon shows this was an emotional decision not a logical one. I would want our GM to be logical rather than emotional.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

We know what Parkey brought to the table.

And his psyche is probably shot. Kickers are like closers...a ton of what they do is mental.

Moving on was totally the right thing to do.

I can't believe we're still having this debate. Cutting Parkey was a no brainer.

 

[BsGenius]

Of course it could get worse. But it can also get a lot better. Any kicker we go with could miss 9 kicks this season and be an improvement.

The standard is pretty low right now.

This is a team that talks about accountability a lot. If they didn’t cut Parkey those words are hollow.

I said it could be worse because you imply it couldn't when you said:
"I have a hard time believing that a guy that missed 11 kicks last season would be our best possible option this season."

I never denied it could be better. But what if it doesn't? Wouldn't you want Parkey then?

Accountability is one thing but you should also give players second chances. Maybe that playoff miss is enough to make Parkey better. Since you like to talk about "what ifs" and "anything can happen", why is this so out of the question?

 

[BsGenius]

We know what Parkey brought to the table.

And his psyche is probably shot. Kickers are like closers...a ton of what they do is mental.

Moving on was totally the right thing to do.

Not if Fry and Piniero is worse. If I was the GM i wouldn't be making decisions on "probablies".

 

[BearsWillWin]

lol

Finding a diamond in the rough like we did with Robbie Gould has no bearing on our current situation. No one said it's not possible. No one said Fry or Piniero will not be better than Parkey. No one said we're definitely going to miss Parkey. No one said we can't find a construction worker in the middle of Chicago and turn him into the next Dick Butkus. Obviously anything is possible. (rolls eyes)

I was merely entertaining the smarter choice of having Parkey here and have him battle it out with Piniero and Fry (even maybe giving these new guys the heavy advantage) to keep the best man standing. (I understand there may be financial implications involved but my point stands).

But to have so many people unanimously agree on the knee jerk cut Parkey bandwagon shows this was an emotional decision not a logical one. I would want our GM to be logical rather than emotional.

I'm not saying they can definitely find another Gould. That's probably unlikely. But situations like that are why you don't hold on to turds like Parkey because you're afraid you might not find someone better.

The Bears couldn't release Khalil Mack and be confident in finding someone better because that guy doesn't exist. Releasing Trubisky and hoping to find an upgrade on the garbage pile is highly unlikely. Parkey? Not only blew chunks last season....he did damage to himself in the eyes of the locker room by going on national TV like he did. Cutting him was the correct thing to do. Finding a replacement that is at least marginally better....is a relatively safe bet. It's still a gamble...but it's not an awful gamble.

Keeping Parkey in camp would have simply sent a message you can suck at your job and you will only get cut when someone better is found. By cutting him and starting fresh they sent a much better message.

It wasn't an emotional move. It was a football move.

 

[BearsWillWin]

I said it could be worse because you imply it couldn't when you said:
"I have a hard time believing that a guy that missed 11 kicks last season would be our best possible option this season."

I never denied it could be better. But what if it doesn't? Wouldn't you want Parkey then?

Accountability is one thing but you should also give players second chances. Maybe that playoff miss is enough to make Parkey better. Since you like to talk about "what ifs" and "anything can happen", why is this so out of the question?

I didn't imply anything. I said I have a hard time believing he would be the best option. Because I do. There has got to be a better option available....or one will become available during the preseason.

I don't want Parkey at all. The chances we have another kicker that misses 11 kicks is probably low.

 

[BearsWillWin]

Not if Fry and Piniero is worse. If I was the GM i wouldn't be making decisions on "probablies".

Almost all football moves are made on probablies.

You draft a guy because you believe he can probably be good and help your team. You cut guys when they probably won't be as good as you need them to be.

Parkey probably sucks. He definitely sucked last season. He probably won't have a job this season without another kicker getting injured or crappy his pants.

The Bears will probably find someone better.

 

[beardown07]

Fry hit 9 straight yesterday, including a 60 yarder.

 

[BsGenius]

The Bears will probably find someone better.

If i'm hearing everyone correctly it really comes down to this. You guys think it's easier/likely they'll find someone better than Parkey.

This is where i disagree, I don't think finding a kicker (better than Parkey) is easy to find. Nor do i think there's anything wrong with doing both (looking for a better kicker while Parkey is still here) at the same time. Parkey was bad last year but wasn't the worst in the NFL in kicking %. And if all indications so far are true in training camp, neither Fry (minus today's lone nice article) nor Piniero is looking better.