Damn. Trying to be unbiased here...it looks bad. Torres could have easily gotten big body contact there, but instead goes for the glancing shoulder blow to the upper body (shoulder/head). That's what I don't like about the hit. It's the same type of hit that has caused head injuries in the past.
Dougie making the trip to NY too... not sure why since it won't matter what he has to say.
Also, Torres probably done playing in the NHL now, safe to say? Who's going to want to sign this dude on July 1st?
The Penner hit on Wingels was much more blatant head contact than the hit on Stoll and no one is even talking about it. This is nothing more than a reputation call.
It's even more bullshit Ralphie is going to miss a game regardless if he's suspended or not, it's wrong the sharks lose a player like that because of a blown call
It's square shoulder on shoulder stoll is bent over at the waist and Torres drove through on his hit like he should have. The only argument that's remotely legit is he was unsuspecting but stoll wasn't because he's shrugging his shoulders bracing for the hit
Being bent over at the waist doesn't help either
I do not think it was "square" shoulder on shoulder. That is where we disagree. Look at rares' post where there are 3 pictures. The middle picture clearly shows Torres' shoulder being at a higher level than Stoll's shoulder.
You are right that it doesn't help that Stoll is hunched over. The most I'll give you is that it was a glancing shoulder to shoulder hit with a big brunt of the hit coming in the form of shoulder to head. In the third picture, you see Stoll's head snap back. If it was whiplash from a shoulder on shoulder, his head would snap forward (towards Torres). Instead it is snapping away from Torres which indicates shoulder to head contact.
Torres is not given the benefit of the doubt and anything close to being a shoulder to head contact will be considered just that by the league. Shitty.
look closer at the second frame, intial point of contact is shoulder to shoulder clean and square the Impact of the hit in the 3rd frame causes stolls head/neck to fold over to the top of ralphies shoulder, you can't call it a head shot if its a direct result from the force of the impact it's a clean hitI do not think it was "square" shoulder on shoulder. That is where we disagree. Look at rares' post where there are 3 pictures. The middle picture clearly shows Torres' shoulder being at a higher level than Stoll's shoulder.
You are right that it doesn't help that Stoll is hunched over. The most I'll give you is that it was a glancing shoulder to shoulder hit with a big brunt of the hit coming in the form of shoulder to head. In the third picture, you see Stoll's head snap back. If it was whiplash from a shoulder on shoulder, his head would snap forward (towards Torres). Instead it is snapping away from Torres which indicates shoulder to head contact.
Torres is not given the benefit of the doubt and anything close to being a shoulder to head contact will be considered just that by the league. Shitty.
look closer at the second frame, intial point of contact is shoulder to shoulder clean and square the Impact of the hit in the 3rd frame causes stolls head/neck to fold over to the top of ralphies shoulder, you can't call it a head shot if its a direct result from the force of the impact it's a clean hit
look closer at the second frame, intial point of contact is shoulder to shoulder clean and square the Impact of the hit in the 3rd frame causes stolls head/neck to fold over to the top of ralphies shoulder, you can't call it a head shot if its a direct result from the force of the impact it's a clean hit
I don't see that at all Kork. It's not the best angle to judge, but look how much higher Torres' name is than Stoll's. If you slow down the reverse angle, it looks like shoudler to ear, to me.
because stoll is bent over at the waist ralphie is almost straight up there will be a level difference
If he has a shoulder injury and not a head injury... shouldnt that be proof enough that it wasnt a head hit?