Series Thread: Indians make 'em warpath to Arlington, Texas

[Duane1952]

Chi Chi's line 5.1 innings, 1 run and 4 BB.

 

[Justinkm83]

Chi Chi's line 5.1 innings, 1 run and 4 BB.

Actually, 2 BB's, 4 SO's.

 

[Bmurph]

I found it interesting that Hamilton started in CF tonight in RR while Hoying played RF.

A smart organization doesnt play him in CF unless its an emergency situation at this stage

 

[Bmurph]

Without Prince and Belts we have a real bad night, though Blanks and DDJ had decent nights just not much production

 

[Justinkm83]

A smart organization doesnt play him in CF unless its an emergency situation at this stage

So I guess we'll see him in CF next week?

 

[Bmurph]

Banny seems to need to work on his post game, he always seems real uncomfortable like he's gonna snap on the next question asked at any second

 

[Bmurph]

So I guess we'll see him in CF next week?

We shall see, but I bet we see him out there a couple times a week

 

[Justinkm83]

We shall see, but I bet we see him out there a couple times a week

I was trying to think of a reason why we would want him in CF? Even if we move Delino to 2B we still have Martin in CF.

When Rua comes back I could see some opportunities there for him, but it doesn't make sense. That's why I thought it was interesting.

 

[Bmurph]

I was trying to think of a reason why we would want him in CF? Even if we move Delino to 2B we still have Martin in CF.

When Rua comes back I could see some opportunities there for him, but it doesn't make sense. That's why I thought it was interesting.

Maybe they get insurance money if he runs into the wall and misses the year? Only thing I could think of is to get another HR threat out there with Josh in CF with Blanks in LF and Choo in RF. Martin is about as much of a HR threat as EA

 

[donaldson79]

Whats this goofy shit? Breakfast? UFC who cares

Couldn't get to a computer, but saw this promo and thought, "that's perhaps the weakest one I've ever seen."

You are correct on any and all fronts sir.

 

[DT LUNA]

Thought: Cure the RISP failures and pitching will look a little better. ( in the win/loss column )

 

[donaldson79]

Thought: Cure the RISP failures and pitching will look a little better. ( in the win/loss column )

Yeah, it's rather amazing what 8-10 runs worth of support can do for a pitching staff isn't it?

It's shocking to me Banister continues to place EA in the # 2 position after having almost 2 years worth of information - plus all of ST & 36 games of eyes-on - which screams, "I can't get the job done here."

And in fairness to EA, it's almost like the David Murphy days. It's not his fault someone in the dugout keeps putting him in a situation where he's not producing.

And is there any downside to sliding him down in the lineup?

 

[saddles]

I loved this note about Chi Chi from Scott Lucas this morning. It shows Chi Chi is interested in becoming a better pitcher instead of just putting up impressive AAA numbers.

Chi Chi Gonzalez threw well again, albeit with another high pitch count. Beginning in the 3rd, he started the five consecutive batters 0-2 or 1-2, and retired four of them, but he ended up throwing a total of 32 pitches including ten two-strike fouls. It could be a function of what he's working on -- I saw very few two-strike sliders, seemingly his out pitch -- but these situations limit how deep he can go into the game. Gonzalez threw 97 pitches, 66 for strikes. He's averaging a touch over 17 pitches per inning in AAA, meaning a typical six-inning outing would put him over 100. Gonzalez also threw a six-pitch 2nd, so he's certainly not incapable of the quick inning.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

I loved this note about Chi Chi from Scott Lucas this morning. It shows Chi Chi is interested in becoming a better pitcher instead of just putting up impressive AAA numbers.

Chi Chi Gonzalez threw well again, albeit with another high pitch count. Beginning in the 3rd, he started the five consecutive batters 0-2 or 1-2, and retired four of them, but he ended up throwing a total of 32 pitches including ten two-strike fouls. It could be a function of what he's working on -- I saw very few two-strike sliders, seemingly his out pitch -- but these situations limit how deep he can go into the game. Gonzalez threw 97 pitches, 66 for strikes. He's averaging a touch over 17 pitches per inning in AAA, meaning a typical six-inning outing would put him over 100. Gonzalez also threw a six-pitch 2nd, so he's certainly not incapable of the quick inning.

If he is having high pitch counts each inning at AAA then it goes to reason it will not be much better at the MLB level. We seem to have a lot of pitchers who have a hard time with their control.

 

[scotsman1948]

Without Prince and Belts we have a real bad night, though Blanks and DDJ had decent nights just not much production

tis team does realize that these games are 9 innings long? first 3 innings: 3 runs, 9 hits, last 6: 2hits(1 of them was an infield hit) our pitching sucks but they are getting very little support from our offense

 

[scotsman1948]

this team does realize that these games are 9 innings long? first 3 innings: 3 runs, 7 hits, last 6: 2hits(1 of them was an infield hit) our pitching sucks but they are getting very little support from our offense

 

[DT LUNA]

No

tis team does realize that these games are 9 innings long? first 3 innings: 3 runs, 9 hits, last 6: 2hits(1 of them was an infield hit) our pitching sucks but they are getting very little support from our offense

Not news. Age old problem. Even good pitchers can't survive such offense.

 

[saddles]

If he is having high pitch counts each inning at AAA then it goes to reason it will not be much better at the MLB level. We seem to have a lot of pitchers who have a hard time with their control.

I think Scott was trying to say that Chi Chi is having high pitch counts because he is not using his out pitch in two strike situations. He is doing that on purpose to work on his other pitches in order to get better with those. That tells me someone told him in ST what he needed to improve on and he is doing that instead of going with his slider in order to get better throwing those other pitches. That is what impresses me. It makes his overall numbers and innings pitched not look as good, but makes him a better qualified MLB pitcher in the long run. That is a very mature outlook and plan if you ask me. That bodes well for the young man's future in this league.

 

[saddles]

tis team does realize that these games are 9 innings long? first 3 innings: 3 runs, 9 hits, last 6: 2hits(1 of them was an infield hit) our pitching sucks but they are getting very little support from our offense

Our starting pitching has done very well overall outside of Detwiler. Our offense needs improvement even if they have played over their heads at times in the last couple of weeks. Our relief pitching is a work in progress and even though some of those guys are struggling now it will help them in the future when it matters more.

 

[Wamu]

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