If Cubs win WS...

[Mistaken4193]

Is Bartman forgiven by Cubs fans?? Like would he throw out the first pitch at Wrigley next year??

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Never blamed by me

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

As a Cub fan of 35 years, sure I would love to see the Cubs win the World Series this year. This is unexpected though. I still don't know what to expect. We have 2 starting Ps that Maddon trusts. This team is going to be so much better 2 yrs from now. It is crazy though and if you have this chance then you have to take it. To me the Pirates and Cards are both better as well as the Dodgers. Best teams don't always win in baseball

 

[Smart]

Is Bartman forgiven by Cubs fans?? Like would he throw out the first pitch at Wrigley next year??

Ernie Banks and Ron Santo died without seeing a Cubs title because he couldn't do his only job. I'm not saying he's a bad person, but he made a terrible mistake and I will never forgive him for it.

 

[mall3013]

As a Cub fan of 35 years, sure I would love to see the Cubs win the World Series this year. This is unexpected though. I still don't know what to expect. We have 2 starting Ps that Maddon trusts. This team is going to be so much better 2 yrs from now. It is crazy though and if you have this chance then you have to take it. To me the Pirates and Cards are both better as well as the Dodgers. Best teams don't always win in baseball

The Cards were pretty much doomed with injuries and with the Cubs getting the WC. I'm curious if Wainwright will recover and be dominant like he was? Martinez was solid at the beginning and slowly declined after the ASB. They got hammered with the injury bug and did not look dominant going into the postseason. The Cubs look like a team that can win it all now. If Texas beats Toronto, I think the Cubs win it all. I still like the Jays however.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Ernie Banks and Ron Santo died without seeing a Cubs title because he couldn't do his only job. I'm not saying he's a bad person, but he made a terrible mistake and I will never forgive him for it.

Cubs fans are very delusional with the Bartman excuse....

There's no guarantee that Alou makes that catch given that he was about to hit the wall when the ball went to Bartman's. Not to mention, they had plenty of chances to keep the lead...do we blame Bartman for Alex Gonzalez' costly error too?


Not to mention, it wasn't even the World Series...had the Cubs won that series, they still had to win 4 games vs the Yankees.

 

[Nascar Addict]

I'm not a baseball fan AT ALL. But I always thought that the whole Steve Bartman thing was taken WAY out of proportion. And I'm pulling for the Cubs.

And I want the Cubs to welcome him back to Chicago.

 

[Mistaken4193]

Ernie Banks and Ron Santo died without seeing a Cubs title because he couldn't do his only job. I'm not saying he's a bad person, but he made a terrible mistake and I will never forgive him for it.

Come on now. Red Sox fans forgave Bill Buckner.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I think Alex Gonzales' error did far more harm than Bartman.

 

[The Derski]

Ernie Banks and Ron Santo died without seeing a Cubs title because he couldn't do his only job. I'm not saying he's a bad person, but he made a terrible mistake and I will never forgive him for it.

That's a bit harsh. There were about 50 other people going for the ball too. If you want to blame anything for the momentum change in that game blame Moises Alou for his reaction to Bartman.

 

[StanMarsh51]

I'm not a baseball fan AT ALL. But I always thought that the whole Steve Bartman thing was taken WAY out of proportion. And I'm pulling for the Cubs.

And I want the Cubs to welcome him back to Chicago.

Absolutely....he was the scapegoat, but it was certainly much more than him.

If you look at the play, it's far from a good bet Alou catches that ball, considering he was up against the wall and he was a below average LFer at that stage in his career to begin with). And it's not as if the Bartman play put Castillo on base. It was a foul ball and they still had a chance to retire him, but they failed to do so.

 

[Tin Man]

If the Cubs win the World Series, one of two things will happen -

1. The earth will crack, the oceans will be swallowed up, the sky will fall, and life as we know it will end.
   
2. A new American golden age will dawn.

Either way, a record number of Chicago dogs will be eaten.

 

[ElTexan]

The Cards were pretty much doomed with injuries and with the Cubs getting the WC. I'm curious if Wainwright will recover and be dominant like he was? Martinez was solid at the beginning and slowly declined after the ASB. They got hammered with the injury bug and did not look dominant going into the postseason. The Cubs look like a team that can win it all now. If Texas beats Toronto, I think the Cubs win it all. I still like the Jays however.

Cards were doomed while winning 100 games. Got it.

 

[ElTexan]

Cubs fans are very delusional with the Bartman excuse....

There's no guarantee that Alou makes that catch given that he was about to hit the wall when the ball went to Bartman's. Not to mention, they had plenty of chances to keep the lead...do we blame Bartman for Alex Gonzalez' costly error too?


Not to mention, it wasn't even the World Series...had the Cubs won that series, they still had to win 4 games vs the Yankees.

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Alou's glove was DIRECTLY under the ball. There is a ton of pic and vid proof. It's not even a debate.

 

[ElTexan]

I think of the Cubs should offer the exact same seat to Bartman for game 4 of the nlcs. He is forgiven.

 

[StanMarsh51]

Alou's glove was DIRECTLY under the ball. There is a ton of pic and vid proof. It's not even a debate.

This is "directly under the ball?" Given that he would've had to caught it with his arm going across his body, I'd say it's far from a guarantee he catches it.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I think of the Cubs should offer the exact same seat to Bartman for game 4 of the nlcs. He is forgiven.

Apparently, that seat no longer exists.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

That was one single play from the sixth game of a seven game series. Even IF you could convince me that the Cubs lost that game because of Bartman, there were five games preceeding and one game after that one in which the Cubs could not seal the deal.

It is my opinion that anyone that blames Steve Bartman for the Cubs losing the NLCS (or worse the WS), likes to rub strange penises all over their face.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

I watched the 30 for 30 on bartman and truly felt bad for that poor guy. Holy shit was he just bombarded. It's amazing he didn't off himself really.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I watched the 30 for 30 on bartman and truly felt bad for that poor guy. Holy shit was he just bombarded. It's amazing he didn't off himself really.

Chicago is probably my favorite city in the world. I'd be afraid to watch that 30 for 30 because it would piss me off so bad, I might start to hate Chicago.