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I just want to throw it out there that in Back to the Future 2, it said the Cubs won the WS in 2015......did they know something that everyone else didn't?
 

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This is "directly under the ball?" Given that he would've had to caught it with his arm going across his body, I'd say it's far from a guarantee he catches it.

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That's after the ball has bounced off bartman's hands, you disingenuous trash.
 

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I hate liars. Pure trash. 1'12"
 

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As a Cub fan of 35 years, sure I would love to see the Cubs win the World Series this year. This is unexpected though. I still don't know what to expect. We have 2 starting Ps that Maddon trusts. This team is going to be so much better 2 yrs from now. It is crazy though and if you have this chance then you have to take it. To me the Pirates and Cards are both better as well as the Dodgers. Best teams don't always win in baseball

No, but sometimes teams with the hottest pitcher do (see: Giants, 2014).
 

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Is Bartman forgiven by Cubs fans?? Like would he throw out the first pitch at Wrigley next year??


Steve Bartman should get a lifetime of season tickets down the left field line IF the Cubs win the WS. All the other Cubs fans should pay a $1 excise tax to pay for it on each Cub game attended till Bartmans lifetime seats are paid for.

Justice for one.
 

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If the Cubs win the World Series, one of two things will happen -
  1. The earth will crack, the oceans will be swallowed up, the sky will fall, and life as we know it will end.
  2. A new American golden age will dawn.
Either way, a record number of Chicago dogs will be eaten.

I thought the same when the Red Sox won- but it may have been the Cubs all along. Maybe we'll find out this year...
 

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Couldn't find the gif of this guy saying, "wish I could turn back time, put money on the Cubbies"
 

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That's a bit harsh. There were about 50 other people going for the ball too. If you want to blame anything for the momentum change in that game blame Moises Alou for his reaction to Bartman.

You are missing the point. Moises Alou had an actual role in victories. He had tons of jobs to do. Should he have reacted differently? Sure. But how do I know that his reaction offset the 22 HRs he hit that year? Considering we didn't clinch until the day before the season ended, it's entirely likely that we don't make the playoffs without him. The same situation is true for Alex Gonzalez, who made an arguably worse mistake than Bartman when he botched the inning-ending double play.

Bartman had literally one job, which was not get in the way of Cubs players. And he failed miserably. Hundreds of thousands of Cubs fans who have invested millions of hours hoping for a championship have died without seeing one because of one man's split-second decision.

Does it make him the devil? No. Was it a really fucking bad mistake? Absolutely. And if you know Chicagoans who have died and know what a Cubs title would have meant to them, I don't understand how anyone could think that his decision was defensible. I'd say the same thing for the other people who reached for the ball or really anyone which jeopardized the happiness of millions for their own, split-second happiness.
 

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This is "directly under the ball?" Given that he would've had to caught it with his arm going across his body, I'd say it's far from a guarantee he catches it.

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Posting a picture of Bartman after he tipped it? Really? Here's a photo taken before he tipped it:

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It isn't up for debate. Alou would have caught the ball. Arguing otherwise is just delusional.
 

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If the Cubs win, I am going to watch back to the future 2 & look for anymore predictions. Then I'll head to Vegas with my findings.
 

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Posting a picture of Bartman after he tipped it? Really? Here's a photo taken before he tipped it:

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It isn't up for debate. Alou would have caught the ball. Arguing otherwise is just delusional.
Alou was in the air with his glove/arm over his head going across his body....given all that, it's certainly not a guarantee that a guy who was a notably below average defensive player catches that, especially since it's very possible that his glove would've hit the top of the wall/railing which doesn't guarantee control of the ball.

Not to mention, it's far from a certainty the Cubs win the WS considering they still would've had to win 4 games vs the Yankees, and the odds of any Cubs pitchers pitching like Beckett + Pavano did in that series (25 innings allowing just 3 runs) is unlikely.
 

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Cub fans are idiots if they still blame or ever blamed Bartman for that game. Get over it. If that was Gane 7 with 2 outs and the next play was a hit to win the series, then ok Bartman fuck up. Prior, Gonzales, and a scared loser mentality are the main reason they lost.
 

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You are missing the point. Moises Alou had an actual role in victories. He had tons of jobs to do. Should he have reacted differently? Sure. But how do I know that his reaction offset the 22 HRs he hit that year? Considering we didn't clinch until the day before the season ended, it's entirely likely that we don't make the playoffs without him. The same situation is true for Alex Gonzalez, who made an arguably worse mistake than Bartman when he botched the inning-ending double play.

Bartman had literally one job, which was not get in the way of Cubs players. And he failed miserably. Hundreds of thousands of Cubs fans who have invested millions of hours hoping for a championship have died without seeing one because of one man's split-second decision.

Does it make him the devil? No. Was it a really fucking bad mistake? Absolutely. And if you know Chicagoans who have died and know what a Cubs title would have meant to them, I don't understand how anyone could think that his decision was defensible. I'd say the same thing for the other people who reached for the ball or really anyone which jeopardized the happiness of millions for their own, split-second happiness.

He didn't. Ball was IN the stands. Alou wasn't going to catch it
 

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and any Cubs fan or any fan who says they wouldn't have tried to catch that ball is fooling themselves... Bartman did what ANY fans does every game!
 

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and any Cubs fan or any fan who says they wouldn't have tried to catch that ball is fooling themselves... Bartman did what ANY fans does every game!

If I ever value my own fleeting happiness over the hopes and dreams of millions of people, then I deserve what I get. I certainly hope I wouldn't do that, but if I did, that's a choice that I would have to deal with.
 

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blame the kicker, blame the manager, blame the coach, blame Bartman,


Welcome to America, someone to blame for everything.
 

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You are missing the point. Moises Alou had an actual role in victories. He had tons of jobs to do. Should he have reacted differently? Sure. But how do I know that his reaction offset the 22 HRs he hit that year? Considering we didn't clinch until the day before the season ended, it's entirely likely that we don't make the playoffs without him. The same situation is true for Alex Gonzalez, who made an arguably worse mistake than Bartman when he botched the inning-ending double play.

Bartman had literally one job, which was not get in the way of Cubs players. And he failed miserably. Hundreds of thousands of Cubs fans who have invested millions of hours hoping for a championship have died without seeing one because of one man's split-second decision.

Does it make him the devil? No. Was it a really fucking bad mistake? Absolutely. And if you know Chicagoans who have died and know what a Cubs title would have meant to them, I don't understand how anyone could think that his decision was defensible. I'd say the same thing for the other people who reached for the ball or really anyone which jeopardized the happiness of millions for their own, split-second happiness.
That is fucking moronic. No surprise coming from you.
 
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