That's after the ball has bounced off bartman's hands, you disingenuous trash.This is "directly under the ball?" Given that he would've had to caught it with his arm going across his body, I'd say it's far from a guarantee he catches it.
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As a Cub fan of 35 years, sure I would love to see the Cubs win the World Series this year. This is unexpected though. I still don't know what to expect. We have 2 starting Ps that Maddon trusts. This team is going to be so much better 2 yrs from now. It is crazy though and if you have this chance then you have to take it. To me the Pirates and Cards are both better as well as the Dodgers. Best teams don't always win in baseball
Is Bartman forgiven by Cubs fans?? Like would he throw out the first pitch at Wrigley next year??
If the Cubs win the World Series, one of two things will happen -
Either way, a record number of Chicago dogs will be eaten.
- The earth will crack, the oceans will be swallowed up, the sky will fall, and life as we know it will end.
- A new American golden age will dawn.
That's a bit harsh. There were about 50 other people going for the ball too. If you want to blame anything for the momentum change in that game blame Moises Alou for his reaction to Bartman.
This is "directly under the ball?" Given that he would've had to caught it with his arm going across his body, I'd say it's far from a guarantee he catches it.
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Alou was in the air with his glove/arm over his head going across his body....given all that, it's certainly not a guarantee that a guy who was a notably below average defensive player catches that, especially since it's very possible that his glove would've hit the top of the wall/railing which doesn't guarantee control of the ball.Posting a picture of Bartman after he tipped it? Really? Here's a photo taken before he tipped it:
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It isn't up for debate. Alou would have caught the ball. Arguing otherwise is just delusional.
You are missing the point. Moises Alou had an actual role in victories. He had tons of jobs to do. Should he have reacted differently? Sure. But how do I know that his reaction offset the 22 HRs he hit that year? Considering we didn't clinch until the day before the season ended, it's entirely likely that we don't make the playoffs without him. The same situation is true for Alex Gonzalez, who made an arguably worse mistake than Bartman when he botched the inning-ending double play.
Bartman had literally one job, which was not get in the way of Cubs players. And he failed miserably. Hundreds of thousands of Cubs fans who have invested millions of hours hoping for a championship have died without seeing one because of one man's split-second decision.
Does it make him the devil? No. Was it a really fucking bad mistake? Absolutely. And if you know Chicagoans who have died and know what a Cubs title would have meant to them, I don't understand how anyone could think that his decision was defensible. I'd say the same thing for the other people who reached for the ball or really anyone which jeopardized the happiness of millions for their own, split-second happiness.
and any Cubs fan or any fan who says they wouldn't have tried to catch that ball is fooling themselves... Bartman did what ANY fans does every game!
That is fucking moronic. No surprise coming from you.You are missing the point. Moises Alou had an actual role in victories. He had tons of jobs to do. Should he have reacted differently? Sure. But how do I know that his reaction offset the 22 HRs he hit that year? Considering we didn't clinch until the day before the season ended, it's entirely likely that we don't make the playoffs without him. The same situation is true for Alex Gonzalez, who made an arguably worse mistake than Bartman when he botched the inning-ending double play.
Bartman had literally one job, which was not get in the way of Cubs players. And he failed miserably. Hundreds of thousands of Cubs fans who have invested millions of hours hoping for a championship have died without seeing one because of one man's split-second decision.
Does it make him the devil? No. Was it a really fucking bad mistake? Absolutely. And if you know Chicagoans who have died and know what a Cubs title would have meant to them, I don't understand how anyone could think that his decision was defensible. I'd say the same thing for the other people who reached for the ball or really anyone which jeopardized the happiness of millions for their own, split-second happiness.