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Should Montana retain his status as GOAT?
Of course Montana is the GOAT. He'd have about ten rings with the talent Brady has had surrounding him. The fact that Brady needed to be bailed out by his kickers and defense to even win one should be endlessly shameful to him.
Should Montana retain his status as GOAT?
Brady would have had Rice (the only undisputed GOAT in this discussion) as his #1WR for 14-15 years.
Meanwhile Montana would have had a revolving door to contend with: Troy Brown, Dion Brach, David Givens, Reche Caldwell, Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and Julian Edelman as his #1 WRs over the years.
They both have had HOF coaches backing them up.
Beyond that, they both have their strengths and weaknesses when comparing the two. Both are in the discussion in the modern Superbowl era IMO.
Otto Graham/Paul Brown would be my GOAT (all eras) 10 Consecutive Title Games - 7 wins. No-one else is in the discussion IMO. In fact, It was Walsh who refined Paul Brown's offense as a former assistant.
Rice is still the GOAT. With or without stick-em.Of course Montana is the GOAT. He'd have about ten rings with the talent Brady has had surrounding him. The fact that Brady needed to be bailed out by his kickers and defense to even win one should be endlessly shameful to him.
Did Arena football have a salary cap to deal with? Niether did Montana. Not sure how well Montana's 200# frame would've held up in today's game.No QB in this era belongs in that conversation to begin with. Arena league football these days. Manning, Brady have nothing on Montana. Peace.
Brady would have had Rice (the only undisputed GOAT in this discussion) as his #1WR for 14-15 years.
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Montana had Rice for 6 years, not 14-15. He already had 2 SB rings before Rice was even drafted.
The only thing that could stop Montana was getting knocked out of the game in the NFCCG or strike years ('82 & '87).
...Or Steve Young of course.
Montana had Rice for 6 years, not 14-15. He already had 2 SB rings before Rice was even drafted.
The only thing that could stop Montana was getting knocked out of the game in the NFCCG or strike years ('82 & '87).
...Or Steve Young of course.
.......aren't we talking about two different [kind of] eras.......salary-cap, free-agency, differant-rules,etc...?Brady & the Patriots are cheaters. Repeated cheaters. Like paying-people-to-cheat-for-years cheaters. Nothing they accomplish have any validity anyway.
Dilfer & Brian Billick have a better legacy than Brady & Belicheat at this point.
.......aren't we talking about two different [kind of] eras.......salary-cap, free-agency, differant-rules,etc...?
.........ehh,.....bending but not breaking/some rules, stealing signals [filming them] were surely done by others too according to bill cowher, ,..... seems like all that was ages ago to me/time to move on,...m.-op..Yes, and that's why it's impossible to compare. Statistically, you can compare against the average when it comes to YPA, passer rating & so on (which I've done w/ about 8 QBs), but stats only really show efficiency; and efficiency isn't necessarily greatness.
But what doesn't change is the concept of playing by the rules. Belichick got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and he's a disgrace to the NFL. I'm sure a lot more people are, but we can't just assume that of anyone.