Hypothetical Trade Scenario

[alf8478]

Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant. AJ, Josh Gordon, Julio Jones would be my top tier receivers (in no order)
DeSean Jackson, Victor Cruz, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffrey, D Thomas, Jordy Nelson would be my second tier.
I'm sure I forgot someone
Like I said, I like Thomas, he is probably better than I think he is because he is surrounded by other good receivers and tight ends.

 

[cdumler7]

Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Dez Bryant. AJ, Josh Gordon, Julio Jones would be my top tier receivers (in no order)
DeSean Jackson, Victor Cruz, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffrey, D Thomas, Jordy Nelson would be my second tier.
I'm sure I forgot someone
Like I said, I like Thomas, he is probably better than I think he is because he is surrounded by other good receivers and tight ends.

Not a bad list at all. I am not a Victor Cruz fan but the others I can definitely agree upon. I guess I could be bias as I do get to see Thomas play every week and just watch him dominate most games. He is the only receiver that I see Manning willing to throw into double coverage. I guess the big selling point for me with Thomas is that he was dominating even before Manning came into the picture for the Broncos. With Tebow at quarterback he still averaged over a hundred yards a game and that was with Tebow maybe throwing it 10 times a game. If he could make Tebow look half way decent at times I think that should show his ability on the field.

 

[alf8478]

Not a bad list at all. I am not a Victor Cruz fan but the others I can definitely agree upon. I guess I could be bias as I do get to see Thomas play every week and just watch him dominate most games. He is the only receiver that I see Manning willing to throw into double coverage. I guess the big selling point for me with Thomas is that he was dominating even before Manning came into the picture for the Broncos. With Tebow at quarterback he still averaged over a hundred yards a game and that was with Tebow maybe throwing it 10 times a game. If he could make Tebow look half way decent at times I think that should show his ability on the field.

Thomas was the best pick made by McDaniels!
There are a lot of good receivers in this league, I didn't realize it until I tried to make that list

 

[Gypsumstack]

Now you have gone and lost your damn mind son!

Hey, I didn't say I was making the argument. Just that the argument could be made. I know good and well that Marvin Jones' success was due in a big way to the attention Green was getting. At the same time, I seem to remember a lot more clutch plays from Jones this season than I do from Green.

Yeah, Jones got open because Green was blanketed, but if the other teams #2 is killing you because you are focused on stopping their #1, what exactly is the point of shutting down the #1 guy to begin with? You still get beat in the end. So Jones' success should alleviate some of the pressure put on Green.

AJ is most definitely a top 10 WR. He is probably a top 5 WR. But he is not the second best WR in the game.

 

[bengaldoug]

Hey, I didn't say I was making the argument. Just that the argument could be made. I know good and well that Marvin Jones' success was due in a big way to the attention Green was getting. At the same time, I seem to remember a lot more clutch plays from Jones this season than I do from Green.

Yeah, Jones got open because Green was blanketed, but if the other teams #2 is killing you because you are focused on stopping their #1, what exactly is the point of shutting down the #1 guy to begin with? You still get beat in the end. So Jones' success should alleviate some of the pressure put on Green.

AJ is most definitely a top 10 WR. He is probably a top 5 WR. But he is not the second best WR in the game.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much agree with this. AJ still drops too many passes, and too often loses focus on the field to be top two. I'd put him just outside the top five right now, with the potential to be a top two guy in the future.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Hey, I didn't say I was making the argument. Just that the argument could be made. I know good and well that Marvin Jones' success was due in a big way to the attention Green was getting. At the same time, I seem to remember a lot more clutch plays from Jones this season than I do from Green.

Yeah, Jones got open because Green was blanketed, but if the other teams #2 is killing you because you are focused on stopping their #1, what exactly is the point of shutting down the #1 guy to begin with? You still get beat in the end. So Jones' success should alleviate some of the pressure put on Green.

AJ is most definitely a top 10 WR. He is probably a top 5 WR. But he is not the second best WR in the game.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much agree with this. AJ still drops too many passes, and too often loses focus on the field to be top two. I'd put him just outside the top five right now, with the potential to be a top two guy in the future.

With his athletic ability, hands (yes he still drops some easy ones), age, speed, attention he demands, no real deep threat QB throwing to him, monetary cost, I would label him the 2nd best WR in the league. You do not trade that for 1 single 1st round pick. Draft picks are all crap shoots anyways, who knows who is going to be good and who is going to flop. AJ has been to the probowl his first 3 years, tons of catches and yards, along with TD's, especially TD's over 40 yards, with DALTON throwing to him.

All I am saying is...no way in shit I consider trading Green for LESS than two first round picks, when you consider the sure thing you have right now in Green, at a ridiculously low cost.

 

[bengaldoug]

Dalton has had no trouble getting the deep ball to AJ. The deep ball is not Dalton's problem. (PFF stats back me up on this). Lack of consistency and tendency to panic in pressure situations are Dalton's two biggest problems.

 

[cincygrad]

Dalton has had no trouble getting the deep ball to AJ. The deep ball is not Dalton's problem. (PFF stats back me up on this). Lack of consistency and tendency to panic in pressure situations are Dalton's two biggest problems.

And red hair.

 

[bengaldoug]

And red hair.

Red hair = no soul?

 

[Servo]

we shouldn't be resigning Dalton to anything close to that.

I wouldn't do it. You don't move a proven guy who is the 2nd best at his position in the league for someone unproven.

I would consider drafting Mettenburger or even Tahj Boyd in the 3rd or 4th

I like Mettenburger but if it were up to me I'd trade a 2nd rounder for Ryan Mallett (or a 2nd and a 5th or whatever it would take). Whatever happens we seriously need to bring some viable talent in here at QB. I can handle Dalton being the started in 2014 because he's dirt cheap, but investing any money in that tomato can would be beyond stupid.

 

[DanBengalfan]

WalterFootball.com: 2014 NFL Mock Draft: Third Round

AJ to AJ for the TD ?

 

[futballiscool]

With his athletic ability, hands (yes he still drops some easy ones), age, speed, attention he demands, no real deep threat QB throwing to him, monetary cost, I would label him the 2nd best WR in the league. You do not trade that for 1 single 1st round pick. Draft picks are all crap shoots anyways, who knows who is going to be good and who is going to flop. AJ has been to the probowl his first 3 years, tons of catches and yards, along with TD's, especially TD's over 40 yards, with DALTON throwing to him.

All I am saying is...no way in shit I consider trading Green for LESS than two first round picks, when you consider the sure thing you have right now in Green, at a ridiculously low cost.

#2 overall pick is worth 3 mid/late 1st rd picks according to the trade chart. I wouldn't consider trading Green for a single 1st rd pick from a playoff team. That pick is different

Draft Countdown - Trade Value Chart

He's not really on a cheap contract. He's in the final year of his rookie deal and he's going to expect a huge day. I'd estimate somewhere in the ballpark of 14-17 million a year. I'd pay Green that type of rather than losing him for nothing in FA.

If someone offers the #2 overall pick on the otherhand, I'd at least consider it.