Discussion in 'College Football Forum' started by iowajerms, Jul 11, 2018.
lol @ ATF getting his shit pushed in all day by @4down20
I like the WV high school ranking system for CFB.
WV only has 3 classes or divisions if you will AAA,AA, and A,
I use these as P5 (AAA), G5(AA) BYU is a G5 in mine, and FCS(A).
Wins over AAA(P5) = 12 points
Wins over AA(G5) = 9 points
Wins over A(FCS) = 6 points
You get a bonus point for every win your defeated opponent gets over a AAA(P5) opponent.
______ (however many teams ya like) teams with the most points meet in the playoff
Top 20 teams participate in a rock/paper/scissors single elimination tournament.
It happened more frequently than people realize in the BCS era, esp. when the Big East champ was considered an auto bid. Conference champs had 3 or more losses and we’re outside the top 8 and got auto bids.
It happened later in the BCS era too. The AQ conf champ was either outside the top 8 or had at least 3 losses:
2007: No. 9 WVU BE at the time, but still P5 today
2008: No. 19 and 4-loss Va Tech v. No. 12 Cinn. (BE, but AQ conf at the time)
2009: No. 9 Ga Tech
2010: Unranked and 4 loss UConn, No. 13 Va Tech
2011: No. 10 Wisconsin, No. 23 WVA, No. 15 Clemson
2012: Unranked and 5 loss Wisconsin, No. 12 FSU, No. 21 Louisville
So, virtually every year of the BCS’s existence it’s happened at least once.
I agree...just never see it happening.
IIRC, it COULD be explained but WOULDN'T be explained...supposedly for proprietary reasons involving the metrics that were used in the formula.
That'll be the only way we get a vote. We'll get a legitimate vote when
it's really not that hard not to though.
the resume is the resume. you won, you lost, that's about it.
take emotion and reactionary nonsense out of it.
the resume is the resume.
i've always been curious how BCS stuff would've ended up had they taken the human element out of them.
Gotta throw in a little Ohio State dropping an occasional deuce into the contest.
I don't think it would be that hard either.
The poll was the the human element I had the most problem with. Mainly because of the "emotion and reactionary" items you reference. The other human elements I had a problem with in polls (and still do) is the perception and herd mentality dynamic at work. While it may exist to a certain extent with the CFP since they are still human after all, the smaller group is much more credible IMHO.
I'd have to think about that, but on the surface I'd rather have that than what we have now in Texas...even though we have 6 classifications and 2 divisions in each classification. We crown 12 state champions each year.
Right now, the top 2-4 finishers in each district get in the playoffs...depending on the size of the classifications. (Part of the "everyone gets a trophy" crap and money grab. Most playoff games in Texas rake in some pretty good coin...even in the lower classifications.) Then the brackets are made lined up with #1 in a district playing #4 in the next geographical district. Here's last year's playoff bracket for one of the middle classifications. Football Playoff Brackets — University Interscholastic League (UIL) There are very many lopsided games the first round or two because there are some of those 3-4 place teams that really don't belong. (A few probably do and would get in via your process.) Takes a couple of games to get the" driftwood out of the river". Letting that many teams in the playoffs causes the teams making the finals at Jerrah's World to play 6 playoff games and 16 games in total.
It was fine when we were only taking the 1st and 2nd place teams from each disrict. Less driftwood.
it was just interesting that the BCS took out the score differential, but humans obviously did not.
Just keep it like it is.
On August 25th...65 teams not designated as a Power 5
team will be eliminated for the final 4, nor will they be
ranked above #7 in the country after October 1st.
After that, you sit back and watch the other 65 trim the list
down to around 10.
Then the 13 in the back room make deals and bargains
to get to the final 4.
head coach cage match
It shouldn't be only 4 teams. Go for 8 teams. Use an RPI-like formula to "rate" (not rank) each FBS team. The top five highest rated conference champions and the top 3 highest rated at-large teams get in. This would be the most efficient.
Of course when the loss happens matters.
How on earth wouldn't it?
If you don't think there's a difference between a first game loss, and the last game of the season loss you are entirely high or haven't ever watched college football. One or the other, maybe both.
These are KIDS. Student athletes. There is generally a big difference between a team early and how they develop throughout the season. They are not the same teams at the end.
An early season loss can be nerves, youth/inexperience, new staff or major changes, etc.
Late losses are WAY more telling about how that team is in terms of worthiness toward a post season slot. I mean isn't that entirely obvious? It's how you were playing RIGHT before the game you think you deserve. How is that not just a given by literally everyone who follows the sport?
So the REAL top 10 using this system...
1. Notre Dame 14.4
2. Clemson 13.5
3. Alabama 13.4
4. Michigan 12.7
5. Ohio State 12.4
6. Georgia 12.3
7. WVU 12.2 (would be 12.5 had we played and beaten NCState, not a given but..)
8. Washington State 11.7
9. OU 10.7
10. LSU 10.5
I think taking it a step further, after you figure out the rankings, Add a bonus point for any win over the current Top 25 to or maybe have a system where at the end of the year, if you lose to a team with a .500 or worse record, you lose points.
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