How long does Philly stick with Wentz before going back to Foles?

[jarntt]

A W is a W tbh

To be clear I'm obviously just setting myself up to counteract a possible Philly win and be able to say "see I said it was hollow even if Dallas had won"

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Yes, Dallas has much much much better WRs than Philly and everyone knows it and it feels great and the Dallas braintrust has done a 100 X better job with the receivers than the Philly GM has. To rely on an expensive 30+ WR in D Jax who has always been hurt was ridiculous and everyone told you it was a mistake by your GM. Jeffery was bad luck but also is almost 30 and has always had some injury issues so somewhat poor to rely on him too. Extending Agholar was also a questionable move, but I can't criticize that one and I think his injuries have just been bad luck that you can't have foreseen because he is young and looked to be improving. You should be getting more out of a 2nd round WR than you are but when you quote his name remember he is a 2nd round pick so you should be able to rely on him as at least a 4th receiver or shame on your GM for picking him and your other recent receiver draft picks over the past 5 years were bad too and that's why you are playing crappy guys now. Very poor roster management.

Onto my point. I'll say it again. All I hear from some Eagles fans are excuses for Wentz because his receivers stink and thus he can't be possibly be expected to play better and that is what made it so great to see your reaction to the stat I posted and to see how you felt about Dak's receivers dropping even more passes than Wentz's. I've still yet to see you address it because it doesn't fit your agenda. I guess Dak would be the clear MVP if they didn't drop so many after reading Eagles fans whine about dropped passes all year and how they have hurt Wentz.

Even with the crummy WRs, you kept telling us your Offense was based on 2 TEs and that you have the best duo in the entire NFL. Then a lot of the Eagles fans kept saying it was BS to say Dak played poorly the last couple of years because his WRs stunk, but now it's a valid excuse??? Plus you have the best performing line in the NFL by a mile (4 out of the top 15 OL). That's incredible and the running game has been great lately and the RBs have been great at breaking easy screen passes for big plays. So what has been the problem?

1. Our receiver picks over the last 35 years have been bad. Not one true superstar. I literally think our last star #1 was Mike Quick.
2. “It feels great Dallas has managed their roster better and have great receivers”. Why are we both 7-7? What’s the reason Dallas has been so bad?
3. I don’t remember any Eagle fans saying you can’t blame Dak playing poorly because he had no receivers. Why not? He did struggle without receivers just like Wentz is. Dak got much better when they gave him something to throw to. Don’t know why you’re bringing this up to me cause I didn’t say that.
4. They just picked up Agholors 5th year. Didn’t give him a multi year extension. He can go IMO
5. Eagles fans aren’t blaming the poor play on drops and Wentz playing mediocre because of drops. We are struggling because they simply can not get open. Do you listen to the announcers say “Wentz has absolutely nothing open at WR”
6. Luckily Dallas managed the WR position well and we did so at TE. It
feels great the Philly brain trust managed the TE position 100 times better then Dallas. VERY POOR ROSTER MANAGEMENT
7. What has been the big problem? No health or talent at WR, no health or talent at CB. Poor defense, poor play calling and Wentz playing up and down.

 

[Tapey]

Oh

To be clear I'm obviously just setting myself up to counteract a possible Philly win and be able to say "see I said it was hollow even if Dallas had won"

Oh shit that’s my bad

 

[Manster7588]

How's it different? PDay called you out on the Fans wanting Dak benched claim, and you said you brought it up and said it was ridiculous for fans to say it.
So again, I have not seen you state it was ridiculous until now, and you are claiming you said it was ridiculous before. I say that's BULLSHIT as you brought up a claim that lots of fans on another site called for Daks benching to support you argument in defense of Wentz. So if you cannot prove otherwise you need to remove your moron ass off this site. Hell I honestly don't care if you don't leave just stay off of this board and the Dallas board.

@PhoenixEagles1 do you agree you continued to pound your bullshit claim for months about multiple Dallas fans wanting Dak benched in your defense of Wentz?
I'm ready for the bet if you are.

 

[handicappers]

@PhoenixEagles1 do you agree you continued to pound your bullshit claim for months about multiple Dallas fans wanting Dak benched in your defense of Wentz?
I'm ready for the bet if you are.

He won’t bet. He’s already spinning a new story and flip floppin

 

[Manster7588]

He won’t bet. He’s already spinning a new story and flip floppin

I guarantee he wasn't saying the idea of benching Dak was ridiculous didn't cross his mind, when he first made his BS claim.

 

[dbldwn711]

I guarantee he wasn't saying the idea of benching Dak was ridiculous didn't cross his mind, when he first made his BS claim.

hes a flip flopper!!

 

[Manster7588]

hes a flip flopper!!

It's like he doesn't realize we can find the bullshit he's posted years ago.

Too bad he's not as smart as this guy.

 

[dbldwn711]

I guarantee he wasn't saying the idea of benching Dak was ridiculous didn't cross his mind, when he first made his BS claim.

hes a flip flopper!!

he’s a joke!! He’s as bad as that dude @Rex Racer !! Hey @dbldwn711 how do you pats fans put up with that guy?!?!

Cowboys win the division tomorrow!!

 

[Manster7588]

he’s a joke!! He’s as bad as that dude @Rex Racer !! Hey @dbldwn711 how do you pats fans put up with that guy?!?!

I see what you did there. Are you on your laptop or phone right now?

 

[handicappers]

Dammit

 

[jarntt]

2. “It feels great Dallas has managed their roster better and have great receivers”. Why are we both 7-7? What’s the reason Dallas has been so bad?

6. Luckily Dallas managed the WR position well and we did so at TE. It
feels great the Philly brain trust managed the TE position 100 times better then Dallas. VERY POOR ROSTER MANAGEMENT

#2 - Let's use this as an example. You used quotes. Quotes mean you are restating what I stated verbatim. That is not what I said and you do this over and over and over and it is disingenuous and done for no reason other than to try and enable you to win an argument or prove your point. This is what I said. There is a HUGE difference.

"Yes, Dallas has much much much better WRs than Philly and everyone knows it and it feels great and the Dallas braintrust has done a 100 X better job with the receivers than the Philly GM has."


#6 - Absolutely Dallas has screwed up at TE. Poor drafting, not playing the one good one they drafted because he wouldn't conform to their way, not bringing in a really good blocking TE to team with Jarwin and now playing Witten more snaps than Jarwin who is a very good pass catching TE. But onto the more important point. So, with these two great TEs in Philly, I guess that equals out the two positions and thus kills the Eagles fans points about Wentz having no weapons because those 2 TEs are so good and play almost every single down, which is the exact point I have been making all along. Wentz does have good receiving options and thus poor WRs isn't an excuse. You can't have it both ways

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

I guarantee he wasn't saying the idea of benching Dak was ridiculous didn't cross his mind, when he first made his BS claim.

Oh, 1st it was I was a liar and never said that the Cowboy fans screaming for him to be benched were ridiculous. Then I post proof I did say it and now its something else. Now that is the definition of MOVING THE GOAL POSTS!

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

#2 - Let's use this as an example. You used quotes. Quotes mean you are restating what I stated verbatim. That is not what I said and you do this over and over and over and it is disingenuous and done for no reason other than to try and enable you to win an argument or prove your point. This is what I said. There is a HUGE difference.

"Yes, Dallas has much much much better WRs than Philly and everyone knows it and it feels great and the Dallas braintrust has done a 100 X better job with the receivers than the Philly GM has."


#6 - Absolutely Dallas has screwed up at TE. Poor drafting, not playing the one good one they drafted because he wouldn't conform to their way, not bringing in a really good blocking TE to team with Jarwin and now playing Witten more snaps than Jarwin who is a very good pass catching TE. But onto the more important point. So, with these two great TEs in Philly, I guess that equals out the two positions and thus kills the Eagles fans points about Wentz having no weapons because those 2 TEs are so good and play almost every single down, which is the exact point I have been making all along. Wentz does have good receiving options and thus poor WRs isn't an excuse. You can't have it both ways

#2 Yes, you were letting us know how incompetent our GM was and how brilliant yours was for putting together an excellent WR crew. I was just asking why we both had the same record. Dont see anything disingenuous.

#6 It doesnt kill the Eagles fans point. WR is much more important then TE and in our scheme we need a fast, field stretching WR to open up everything underneath for the slower TE position. Having JJ Arcega Whiteside and Greg Ward is a huge fucking issue and, as you said, the Eagles completely fumbled the ball at taking care of the WR position. If you think having 2 nice TE's negates having dog shit at WR I guess we have a difference in philosophy.

 

[Manster7588]

Oh, 1st it was I was a liar and never said that the Cowboy fans screaming for him to be benched were ridiculous. Then I post proof I did say it and now its something else. Now that is the definition of MOVING THE GOAL POSTS!

You didn't post proof. I'm sure there were SOME fans calling for him to be benched, but not most, not half.

Facts are you said half the fans wanted him benched (WRONG) and the other half didn't want to pay him (WRONG) in you months long tirade of Wentz.

Eventually you must have finally realized Dak was outplaying Wentz so you moved the goal posts and said it was ridiculous. Sorry I missed you post, but contrary to the belief in your moronic brain, I don't try to read everything you post.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

You didn't post proof. I'm sure there were SOME fans calling for him to be benched, but not most, not half.

Facts are you said half the fans wanted him benched (WRONG) and the other half didn't want to pay him (WRONG) in you months long tirade of Wentz.

Eventually you must have finally realized Dak was outplaying Wentz so you moved the goal posts and said it was ridiculous. Sorry I missed you post, but contrary to the belief in your moronic brain, I don't try to read everything you post.

I posted proof that I said those fans were being ridiculous. Stay on topic Gomer.
And if you admittedly dont read all my posts why did you call me a liar and say I didnt say that? And... it pretty damn funny you said you dont read my posts. You analyze every fucking thing I say.

 

[Manster7588]

I posted proof that I said those fans were being ridiculous. Stay on topic Gomer.
And if you admittedly dont read all my posts why did you call me a liar and say I didnt say that? And... it pretty damn funny you said you dont read my posts. You analyze every fucking thing I say.

How many months after you claimed HALF of the fans want him benched, and the other half don't want to pay him?

 

[dbldwn711]

Hahaha. PE1 is e-yelling in bold!! I can actually hear him sweating about the upcoming game!!

Bwhahaha.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

This is about longevity

funny how handi got all butthurt about my post. No offense to OP. He's a quality dude and my intent was not to dis him.

 

[handicappers]

Scooby Doofuss all butt hurt making excuses now. Derp