How long does Philly stick with Wentz before going back to Foles?

[handicappers]

Nice article to strengthen your point. I’ll believe it when GMs starting drafting them high cause they are soooooo important. Let’s look at the best players at each position and tell me who you’d want on your team you were building assuming they were all 25
*Center Jason Kelce back to back 1st team all pro or.....
QB Tom Brady
LT Tyron Smith
DE Khalil Mack
DT Aaron Donald
CB Jalen Ramsey
RB Ezekiel Elliot
OLB Jadeveon Clowney
WR Julio Jones

I can bring up just as many arguments going against what you said. You will never convince me you’d taken Jason Kelce over and of those guys... cause you wouldn’t. And lastly, go back to the original thread and take issue with every single person that had Center low... cause it wasn’t just me

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Manster7588]

Nice article to strengthen your point. I’ll believe it when GMs starting drafting them high cause they are soooooo important. Let’s look at the best players at each position and tell me who you’d want on your team you were building assuming they were all 25
*Center Jason Kelce back to back 1st team all pro or.....
QB Tom Brady
LT Tyron Smith
DE Khalil Mack
DT Aaron Donald
CB Jalen Ramsey
RB Ezekiel Elliot
OLB Jadeveon Clowney
WR Julio Jones

I can bring up just as many arguments going against what you said. You will never convince me you’d taken Jason Kelce over and of those guys... cause you wouldn’t. And lastly, go back to the original thread and take issue with every single person that had Center low... cause it wasn’t just me

Why do you continue to use the draft as position importance?

If the NFL could find 10 Franchise QBs in every draft, do you think they'd be drafted top 5 every single year?

Same thing in Centers if the draft only produced 1 to 3 NFL centers yearly, don't you think they'd be up in the top of every draft?

The draft has nothing to do with importance it has to do with where the quality stands.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Why do you continue to use the draft as position importance?

If the NFL could find 10 Franchise QBs in every draft, do you think they'd be drafted top 5 every single year?

Same thing in Centers if the draft only produced 1 to 3 NFL centers yearly, don't you think they'd be up in the top of every draft?

The draft has nothing to do with importance it has to do with where the quality stands.

So the pre agreed important positions are always going in the top 10 like QB, DE, LT and the agreed lesser important positions like Punter, Long Snapper and Fullback never go high. But it’s different for Center right? Yawn

 

[Manster7588]

So the pre agreed important positions are always going in the top 10 like QB, DE, LT and the agreed lesser important positions like Punter, Long Snapper and Fullback never go high. But it’s different for Center right? Yawn

No dummy. The draft is about Supply and Demand. If the draft produced an abundance of NFL Franchise type QB, they wouldn't so high yearly, yet this wouldn't change their importance to their team.
So will you answer the question. If the draft only provide 3 NFL quality Centers yearly, how high do you think they'd be on most draft boards?

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

No dummy. The draft is about Supply and Demand. If the draft produced an abundance of NFL Franchise type QB, they wouldn't so high yearly, yet this wouldn't change their importance to their team.
So will you answer the question. If the draft only provide 3 NFL quality Centers yearly, how high do you think they'd be on most draft boards?

so if kickers were really REALLY hard to find they’d go number 1. The draft is about importance. There aren’t more quality Safeties then CB in the draft but CB get selected much more because it’s more important

 

[Manster7588]

so if kickers were really REALLY hard to find they’d go number 1. The draft is about importance. There aren’t more quality Safeties then CB in the draft but CB get selected much more because it’s more important

Kickers are on the field for what? 10 plays? No they would not go #1, but if the draft only provided 1 kicker a year, you'd see that kicker go no later than the 2nd round and more often than not in the 1st.

 

[Manster7588]

so if kickers were really REALLY hard to find they’d go number 1. The draft is about importance. There aren’t more quality Safeties then CB in the draft but CB get selected much more because it’s more important

I'd say it's easier to find NFL safety in the draft than it is to find a NFL Corner. Teams often draft a corner just to move him to safety.

Again the draft is supply and demand. Teams often over draft QBs because finding that NFL QB in the draft is not an easy task.
Some teams get lucky, Brady 6th, Dak 4th, Romo UDFA, Warner (Bagging groceries) while more teams fail miserably drafting QB's Browns (too many to name) Leaf, Russell (Raiders), Akili Smith, Mark Sanchez. I can go on but you should get my point.
The draft rarely provides an abundance at QB so teams throw caution to the wind to grab one.

 

[handicappers]

Fuck you’re stupid, PE1

It’s actually quite remarkable

 

[jarntt]

Nice article to strengthen your point. I’ll believe it when GMs starting drafting them high cause they are soooooo important. Let’s look at the best players at each position and tell me who you’d want on your team you were building assuming they were all 25
*Center Jason Kelce back to back 1st team all pro or.....
QB Tom Brady
LT Tyron Smith
DE Khalil Mack
DT Aaron Donald
CB Jalen Ramsey
RB Ezekiel Elliot
OLB Jadeveon Clowney
WR Julio Jones

I can bring up just as many arguments going against what you said. You will never convince me you’d taken Jason Kelce over and of those guys... cause you wouldn’t. And lastly, go back to the original thread and take issue with every single person that had Center low... cause it wasn’t just me

I'm taking that 6th round QB to start my team over all of those early pick guys you listed

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

I'm taking that 6th round QB to start my team over all of those early pick guys you listed

Me too. And out of all those guys I’m taking the current back to back first team all pro Center last... as would you

 

[jarntt]

Me too. And out of all those guys I’m taking the current back to back first team all pro Center last... as would you

Probably. If I'm making the decisions for Dallas it's probably not as clear for me as it seems to be for you to take Zeke over a pre-illness Frederick (he hasn't been as good this year so far).

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Why do you continue to use the draft as position importance?

If the NFL could find 10 Franchise QBs in every draft, do you think they'd be drafted top 5 every single year?

Same thing in Centers if the draft only produced 1 to 3 NFL centers yearly, don't you think they'd be up in the top of every draft?

The draft has nothing to do with importance it has to do with where the quality stands.

I honestly think he is smart enough at least by now with all the education given to him the last couple years to understand there is a difference. I just think by now he has dug in so deep he will never admit or acknowledge the difference.

Funny use any great coach using their Chalkboard/blackboard/I-pad or whatever is/was used from then to now.
Do you think Lombardi, Landry, Walsh, Belichick or whoever when going over plays using the X's & O's when designing their base plays, used names or the nameless X. When Belichick went from the highest paid Qb to a no name 6th round pick. Do you think he changed his X's & O's?
Before someone says yeah but they were replaced by other great players. 1st off no one knew that Brady would become great by then.
When Bill Walsh went from the great Roger Craig to the pedestrian Keith Henderson/Carter he didnt throw out his playbook (X's & O's)
When the Cowboys went from the silent one Duane Thomas to Tony Dorsett, do you think landry said well lets scrap our X's & O's because we have a different player in that spot? Your base offense or your base defense is designed to succeed based on the X's & O's. Not by what named player is in that spot.
A weak Center affects the entire offense. Seems like a pretty important position
Centers are kinda like Air. Doesnt seem too important until you dont have it.

The fact he wants to compare Center who plays (barring injury) 100% of the offensive plays to a part time positions is simply laughable.
Fullback, while I think is an underappreciated position, some teams dont even have one on their team at all!
Long snapper (as you pointed out) might play 10 plays in a game at best.
Punters would play even less plays.
However there is a good point to be made using these spots.
Once you have a quality guy there you wont look for another one to replace that guy for over a decade. Again barring injury. In another words. Not high in demand. Hell with the way rules are now. Our Long snapper will probably die of old age before we get another one LOL

 

[Manster7588]

I honestly think he is smart enough at least by now with all the education given to him the last couple years to understand there is a difference. I just think by now he has dug in so deep he will never admit or acknowledge the difference.

Funny use any great coach using their Chalkboard/blackboard/I-pad or whatever is/was used from then to now.
Do you think Lombardi, Landry, Walsh, Belichick or whoever when going over plays using the X's & O's when designing their base plays, used names or the nameless X. When Belichick went from the highest paid Qb to a no name 6th round pick. Do you think he changed his X's & O's?
Before someone says yeah but they were replaced by other great players. 1st off no one knew that Brady would become great by then.
When Bill Walsh went from the great Roger Craig to the pedestrian Keith Henderson/Carter he didnt throw out his playbook (X's & O's)
When the Cowboys went from the silent one Duane Thomas to Tony Dorsett, do you think landry said well lets scrap our X's & O's because we have a different player in that spot? Your base offense or your base defense is designed to succeed based on the X's & O's. Not by what named player is in that spot.
A weak Center affects the entire offense. Seems like a pretty important position
Centers are kinda like Air. Doesnt seem too important until you dont have it.

The fact he wants to compare Center who plays (barring injury) 100% of the offensive plays to a part time positions is simply laughable.
Fullback, while I think is an underappreciated position, some teams dont even have one on their team at all!
Long snapper (as you pointed out) might play 10 plays in a game at best.
Punters would play even less plays.
However there is a good point to be made using these spots.
Once you have a quality guy there you wont look for another one to replace that guy for over a decade. Again barring injury. In another words. Not high in demand. Hell with the way rules are now. Our Long snapper will probably die of old age before we get another one LOL

It's been suggested he might just be trolling us. For his sake and the sake of the kids he has taught, I hope this is the case.

Of course he says he never Trolls so there is that.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

here is a perfect example of importance of the position.

Rookie Center from the Saints has been awesome.
According to PFF. Now full disclosure. I have never understood the PFF, but I know some swear by it while other despise it.
but according to PFF he is one of the top ten rookies this year. he has been a top 5 center this year.
The Saints have a Running game, passing game & solid defense. The Saints have an All-pro QB, WR & RB.
I (just my personal opinion) believe the Saints are the best team in the NFC. Well rounded & balanced.
but as a Rookie. He had a bad game last weekend. Thus he was a bad center last game.
The Saints with all their All-Pros in all these other positions got killed by a 1-7 team.
When a Center screws up it kills the entire OL.
Didnt matter they had a HOF Qb in Brees.
Didnt matter they had an All-Pro WR in M. Thomas
Didnt matter they had Kamara as the RB.

Once the Center fails it affected all of the other positions on the offense.
Once the Offense started failing, that affected the Defense.
Bad play by the center made one of the top teams in the league look subpar.

Seems kinda like a pretty important position to me.

 

[Tapey]

So who do you all think will be the back up QB to come bail Philly out when Wentz goes down with an “injury”

 

[skinzfan]

So who do you all think will be the back up QB to come bail Philly out when Wentz goes down with an “injury”

Harper

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

So who do you all think will be the back up QB to come bail Philly out when Wentz goes down with an “injury”

We might just find out after the Pats game. That might be 2-3weeks early though.

 

[Tapey]

Harper

Damn resorting to baseball players

 

[Tapey]

We might just find out after the Pats game. That might be 2-3weeks early though.

It’s never to early to try and save your season!

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

It’s never to early to try and save your season!

Maybe the Eagles brain trust has a flight booked for Atlanta this weekend to watch a certain "workout".