How did they pick Notre Dame and Oklahoma over OSU?

[fredsdeadfriend]

A 1 loss team shouldn’t get in over an undefeated ND, let alone a 2, 3 or 4 loss team.

So you think UCF should get in over OU???

 

[7Samurai13]

5 or even 6 losses and won the B1G??? You realize 6 losses disqualifies lots of schools from even getting a bowl invite? That's pretty hard to believe, I'd like you to back that up.

2012 (I believe) Wisconsin when Penn St and Ohio St had post season bans won the B1G with 5ish losses.

 

[7Samurai13]

So you think UCF should get in over OU???

Did UCF play a comparable schedule to ND or OU?

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Did UCF play a comparable schedule to ND or OU?

Samurai, you do realize I was questioning the logic of someone else saying no 1 loss team should get over an undefeated team. I was assuming they were referring to ND, but I was probing him further to see how far he would be willing to take that line of thinking.

Because NO, UCF did not play a comparable schedule to ND or OU. I just don't think undefeated teams should automatically qualify ahead of 1 loss teams. I believe team's schedules should be considered, the quality of their wins and losses, etc..

 

[PickleRick]

Ohio St. lost by 29 to a 6-6 team. Oklahoma beat the team that beat them by 3 by 12 in the rematch.

So you think Ohio state wouldn’t win Purdue in a rematch? If you think winning a rematch of the team that beat you is a justifiable reason to rank one loss over another than you better have a hell of a lot more games than 11-12 a year.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

So you think UCF should get in over OU???

UCF didn’t play a P5 schedule.

 

[PickleRick]

News flash, going to 8 doesn’t solve the problem. In the BCS people cried that 4 would solve the problem, it didn’t. The NCAA tournament went from 64 to 68 and people STILL are crying about being snubbed. If you think the lines between 4-5 are close it only gets closer with 7-12. Washington would be up in arms over how a who didn’t even win their division is going to a P5 conference champ like Washington (the fact that Washington lost three games won’t matter to those people.)

You are missing his point completely. No 9-12 team is going to beat an Alabama this year anyways. Bitching about gettin snubbed is a huge difference from bitching about being denied a chance at the title.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

5 or even 6 losses and won the B1G??? You realize 6 losses disqualifies lots of schools from even getting a bowl invite? That's pretty hard to believe, I'd like you to back that up.

Yes — 2012. 7-5 Wisconsin beat Nebraska 70-31.

Hell — Northwestern and Pitt both had 5 losses this year and played in their conference CG.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

You are missing his point completely. No 9-12 team is going to beat an Alabama this year anyways. Bitching about gettin snubbed is a huge difference from bitching about being denied a chance at the title.

No team was snubbed this year — the top 4 teams were in the CFP.

 

[PickleRick]

No team was snubbed this year — the top 4 teams were in the CFP.

Fair enough. I simply disagree.

 

[rmilia1]

People always say "4 best teams " get in but they only make that argument when discussing non P5 teams .

The reality is the committee picks the 4 teams from P5 leagues with the best resumes .

The committee doesn't pick the 4 best teams and likely never will because very often one or more of the 4 best teams has multiple losses .UGA was , at worst, the 3rd best team this year and OSU would've been favored on a neutral field over both ND and OU

The committee pussies out basically . They don't have the balls to look in the camera and say "USC may be 10-3 but right now they're one of the 4 best teams " or "we don't care that MSU beat OSU. We believe OSU is the better team " or "Alabama and Clemson are far better than ND and OU. We don't think they're far better than UGA"

Until they grow a pair we we continue to see blowouts in the semis

 

[7Samurai13]

You are missing his point completely. No 9-12 team is going to beat an Alabama this year anyways. Bitching about gettin snubbed is a huge difference from bitching about being denied a chance at the title.

Do tell us what the difference between being snubbed and being denied a chance at the title.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Yes — 2012. 7-5 Wisconsin beat Nebraska 70-31.

Hell — Northwestern and Pitt both had 5 losses this year and played in their conference CG.

Ok, that was kind of special circumstances. #1 - 2 better teams were banned from bowl games. #2 - apparently that was before the Division realignments because Nebraska and UW are in the same Division now.

So how rare is it that two teams from the same Division, and the top 2 teams in said division, are going to be banned from bowl games?

 

[aubie2006]

So you think Ohio state wouldn’t win Purdue in a rematch? If you think winning a rematch of the team that beat you is a justifiable reason to rank one loss over another than you better have a hell of a lot more games than 11-12 a year.

I never said that. But, Ohio St.'s defeat by 29 to a team that went 6-6 probably puts them below a team with one loss by three who then beat the team that beat them by 11.

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

Do tell us what the difference between being snubbed and being denied a chance at the title.

Being snubbed means you were denied with a French accent.

 

[Chewbaccer]

6-6 UCLA played for the Pac 12 championship in 2011. Finished the year 6-8.

 

[7Samurai13]

Being snubbed means you were denied with a French accent.

Fuck the French.

 

[PickleRick]

Do tell us what the difference between being snubbed and being denied a chance at the title.

No problem. On one side you have a team simply wanting the media recognition of making it to a said playoff scenario for recruiting purposes, etc. This said team knows they have no chance of actually winning the title. On the other side ou have a team that has an actual chance that if they get hot, they could snatch the title from the better team.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Ok, that was kind of special circumstances. #1 - 2 better teams were banned from bowl games. #2 - apparently that was before the Division realignments because Nebraska and UW are in the same Division now.

So how rare is it that two teams from the same Division, and the top 2 teams in said division, are going to be banned from bowl games?

You had multiple 5 loss teams in CCG’s this year. Northwestern and Pitt.

CCG won’t be used as automatic qualifiers for this exact reason.

 

[PickleRick]

You had multiple 5 loss teams in CCG’s this year. Northwestern and Pitt.

CCG won’t be used as automatic qualifiers for this exact reason.

Did either one win? I thought the qualifier was winning the division, not making it to the ccg. I don’t agree with an auto bid from a p5 winner in an 8 team playoff scenario either, just stating The hole in your logic.