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BigFin

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When I see who’s been getting in, Tom Chambers should’ve been in awhile ago…
 

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Good luck convincing people here that... No rings. I personally would give him strong consideration, FWIW. :clap:
 

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Nah.

Not a snub at all.

He was a good player.

But if the HOF took every player who made 3 or 4 all star games, it would water things down way too much.

Does not have a HOF resume.
 

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Nah.

Not a snub at all.

He was a good player.

But if the HOF took every player who made 3 or 4 all star games, it would water things down way too much.

Does not have a HOF resume.

Yep...if they ever make a Hall of Very Good...Chambers can be inducted into that.
 

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Chauncey Bilups is in the HOF. He was a good but unspectacular player. I know he had rings, but so does every player on those teams.

Michael Cooper just got in.
 

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Chauncey Bilups is in the HOF. He was a good but unspectacular player. I know he had rings, but so does every player on those teams.

Michael Cooper just got in.

That makes a huge difference though.

Billups was the best player on a championship team. He has coached and been on TV as a basketball analyst.

All huge resume items that boost his appeal.

The championship being the biggest one.

Not really comparable resumes.
 

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No, they don't. Only the elite get into the HoF...Tom Chambers was very good...he was not elite.
In your mind, Billups, Michael Cooper, Paul Westphal, Vlade Divac and Mo
Cheeks were “elite” players. Really?
 

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That makes a huge difference though.

Billups was the best player on a championship team. He has coached and been on TV as a basketball analyst.

All huge resume items that boost his appeal.

The championship being the biggest one.

Not really comparable resumes.
its debatable that if Billups was the best player on those teams. The defining characteristic of that Pistons champion team was there was no big time star.
 

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In your mind, Billups, Michael Cooper, Paul Westphal, Vlade Divac and Mo
Cheeks were “elite” players. Really?

No. All were very good players, but not HoF'ers, imo.

Maaaaaybe Vlade because he was an International player first, but I don't know anything about his international career.
 

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I’d put the Gorilla in the HOF before Tom Chambers.
Cute, but the Gorilla didn’t score 20,000+ points in his career. It appears every eligible player who’s scored at least 20,000 points is in the HOF.
 

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Chauncey Bilups is in the HOF. He was a good but unspectacular player. I know he had rings, but so does every player on those teams.

Michael Cooper just got in.
Chauncey was the guy that held that Championship team together. Michael Cooper was along for the Showtime ride.
 

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Cute, but the Gorilla didn’t score 20,000+ points in his career. It appears every eligible player who’s scored at least 20,000 points is in the HOF.
Antawn Jamison doesn’t feel like a snub.
 

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Chauncey was the guy that held that Championship team together. Michael Cooper was along for the Showtime ride.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that he was "along for the ride", he was an important part of the team.

But, unlike guys like Magic, Kareem and Worthy, his role (mostly defensive stopper) could have been filled by several other players and it wouldn't have changed what those teams accomplished.
 

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I wouldn't go so far as to say that he was "along for the ride", he was an important part of the team.

But, unlike guys like Magic, Kareem and Worthy, his role (mostly defensive stopper) could have been filled by several other players and it wouldn't have changed what those teams accomplished.
Or even by Byron Scott, who was also very good.

That is what I meant by along for the ride. Could slot in another good player without changing the team results.
 

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Or even by Byron Scott, who was also very good.

That is what I meant by along for the ride. Could slot in another good player without changing the team results.

Yep. Scott was really good, but if they had just stayed with Norm Nixon, they likely still have the same level of success.
 
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