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Heinicke is QB1 moving forward per report.

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Wentz is no longer the athlete he once was -- he's completely immobile.

Heinicke has functionality mobility in the pocket and knows the offense. Hence, throwing with anticipation.

Wentz is more talented. Yet the talent can't shine within the current structure.
 

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I'm kinda where EB is. Part of me believes that we would be better with Wentz if the run first philosophy is the same, but I can't say that with certainty.

Never fk with a streak in any sport, so you stick with Heinicke until he gives you a CLEAR reason not to. That said, I would like to see Wentz on the active roster as the number two on gameday.

The qb situation is a conundrum. Heinicke has probably earned himself two losses before he's benched. Thing is, two losses could probably end the season depending on when the losses occur and who those losses come against.

Thirty-four yards passing in the second half. I get it, it was wet, Robinson has it going, but you have McLaurin, Samuel, and Dotson. Thirty-four?

If I'm Ron I go with Heinicke, but I definitely have Wentz in uniform ASAP.
 

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Some of you may remember this. When Wentz had the miraculous escape from about 5 redskins and threw the td on Monday night football. I said that is unbelievable, but that’ll be his undoing in the nfl, and that has pretty much happened. He fought so hard to keep plays alive
 

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Some of you may remember this. When Wentz had the miraculous escape from about 5 redskins and threw the td on Monday night football. I said that is unbelievable, but that’ll be his undoing in the nfl, and that has pretty much happened. He fought so hard to keep plays alive
I remember that.
 

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Heh. Did he really say that?

Yes he did. It was at the end of his career when Schotty cut him because he was bitching about the offense and taking no responsibility for how badly he was playing.

The only reason that I know that is because 16 year old me wanted the Vikings to keep George around for another year (being unsure about Daunte Culpepper) and 18 year old me was very glad we didn't.

Marty replaced George with Tony Banks.
 

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Yes he did. It was at the end of his career when Schotty cut him because he was bitching about the offense and taking no responsibility for how badly he was playing.

The only reason that I know that is because 16 year old me wanted the Vikings to keep George around for another year (being unsure about Daunte Culpepper) and 18 year old me was very glad we didn't.

Marty replaced George with Tony Banks.
And won with Tony for the short time they were together.
 

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I'm kinda where EB is. Part of me believes that we would be better with Wentz if the run first philosophy is the same, but I can't say that with certainty.

Never fk with a streak in any sport, so you stick with Heinicke until he gives you a CLEAR reason not to. That said, I would like to see Wentz on the active roster as the number two on gameday.

The qb situation is a conundrum. Heinicke has probably earned himself two losses before he's benched. Thing is, two losses could probably end the season depending on when the losses occur and who those losses come against.

Thirty-four yards passing in the second half. I get it, it was wet, Robinson has it going, but you have McLaurin, Samuel, and Dotson. Thirty-four?

If I'm Ron I go with Heinicke, but I definitely have Wentz in uniform ASAP.
Remember the game was played in crappy weather
 

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Remember the game was played in crappy weather
I did say it was wet. I get it. I do remember Rypien throwing 16 for 31, 442 and 6 tds in the seat cushion game. The weather was pretty crappy that day as well. Tough comparison, but it can be done. Love Heinicke. I really do, but I need more than 34 yards passing in a half vs the 32nd ranked pass defense in the league. That all I'm saying.
 

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And won with Tony for the short time they were together.
OK, yeah I remember now. Something to the effect of, "That leadership stuff is overrated. If you win everything is alright" or something like that. After he was benched going 0-2 to open up the 01 season. My son and I went to the game against Dago to open up the season that year. The Skins lost 30-3. As disappointing as that and the 37-0 MNF ass whipping was in week 3. I wasn't really surprised. George was never gonna work out as Marty's QB. Marty had total control over football personnel and football matters so I never understood why he retained George.
 

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He was not getting benched after the beats game if he stayed healthy. The coached did not want to mess with the win streak. Does this mean he is a better QB? I dont think so. RR is all over the place this year.
You are really starting to clown out dude. Get a grip
 

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Alex Smith didn't produce good number in Washington but he won more than he lost. TH is much the same. Fuck fantasy football, I would rather have guys who win games. Even if they appear to be flukey or ugly wins, it takes a lot to win 10 of 14 games. Give the man some credit.
 

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Pocket awareness is not about system. It is something QBs have. Carson Wentz has never had awareness.

Carson Wentz was sacked 23 times in 6 games. TH has been sacked 9 times in 6 games.

2017 CW sacked 28 times in 13 games. Foles sacked 5 times in 7.

2018 CW sacked 32 times in 11 games. Foles sacked 9 times in 5 games.
 

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TBH…I know we aren’t going anywhere with TH. We could possibly win a playoff game. Part of me does hope we go back to CW, not because I expect him to win. I just want people to see how bad THE TEAM is with him under center. Now don’t get me wrong, he may have a good game that deceives you; however, he will lose at a higher rate.

I know people are upset that TH didn’t destroy Atlanta but Carson Wentz didn’t even throw for 100 yards against Chicago. The defense and run game had to carry us in that game too. We managed to score 12 points, 7 of which came on a two play, 6 yard drive, both handoffs to BR.
 

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Pocket awareness is not about system. It is something QBs have. Carson Wentz has never had awareness.

Carson Wentz was sacked 23 times in 6 games. TH has been sacked 9 times in 6 games.

2017 CW sacked 28 times in 13 games. Foles sacked 5 times in 7.

2018 CW sacked 32 times in 11 games. Foles sacked 9 times in 5 games.
Good points
 

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you think Wentz was getting benched if he didn't get hurt?
I don’t think so but what the reason for keeping him in there might not be for football reasons
 

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Wentz is an immobile, drop back passer who's held the ball too long throughout his NFL career. That's not how you succeed in the NFL anymore. Most teams realize that and have moved on from the Wentz's of the league. Wentz was a castoff from a mediocre team that couldn't make the playoffs. FO were fools to make that trade.
 

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Wentz is an immobile, drop back passer who's held the ball too long throughout his NFL career. That's not how you succeed in the NFL anymore. Most teams realize that and have moved on from the Wentz's of the league. Wentz was a castoff from a mediocre team that couldn't make the playoffs. FO were fools to make that trade.
I argued with my son over the phone for about an hour about how bad the trade was. Killed our free agency.
 
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