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Hargreaves III or Ramsey?

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Bosa didn't blow anyone away at the combine, but the guy was the focus of every team that played OSU, and he made plays despite double and triple teams
 

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Ramsey, Bosa, or Goff
 

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Ramsey if he can play CB, but I prefer Jacks overall.
 

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I'm good with Ramsey. I think he has a chance to have a special impact in the NFL with his size and athleticism. What's his position? Playmaker.

Still, I think Hargreaves will be the best CB in this class. His game tape is better than anyone's, Ramsey included. His measureables aren't elite like Ramsey, but they sure aren't bad. Check out the tape from Hargreaves sophomore year, including the game against Amare Cooper, he was excellent. Some people have written that Hargreaves coasted in his Junior year, possibly to avoid injury.

I do not want Jack at #4. Rather not draft an injured player in the top 5. This team has to stop buying damaged goods.
 

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Bosa is the safest pick.
 

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I think Dallas is best served grabbing secondary at #4. The DL class is very deep this year.

Just as an example, would you rather have a pair like Jalen Ramsey and Andrew Billings, or Joey Bosa and Xavier Howard? I know which pair I like better. The guys on the DL projected to go in the second round, just due to the shear number of quality guys available, is pretty impressive. The list of CBs likely to be available in round 2 is decidedly less inspiring. Dallas needs to take advantage of this DL depth.
 

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I think Dallas is best served grabbing secondary at #4. The DL class is very deep this year.

Just as an example, would you rather have a pair like Jalen Ramsey and Andrew Billings, or Joey Bosa and Xavier Howard? I know which pair I like better. The guys on the DL projected to go in the second round, just due to the shear number of quality guys available, is pretty impressive. The list of CBs likely to be available in round 2 is decidedly less inspiring. Dallas needs to take advantage of this DL depth.
Pretty good argument, hard to go against that. When do we go after a RB though? QB is a need. Wr is kind of a need too, so is TE. This team is swiss cheese every where except OL.
 

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I'm good with Ramsey. I think he has a chance to have a special impact in the NFL with his size and athleticism. What's his position? Playmaker.

Still, I think Hargreaves will be the best CB in this class. His game tape is better than anyone's, Ramsey included. His measureables aren't elite like Ramsey, but they sure aren't bad. Check out the tape from Hargreaves sophomore year, including the game against Amare Cooper, he was excellent. Some people have written that Hargreaves coasted in his Junior year, possibly to avoid injury.

I do not want Jack at #4. Rather not draft an injured player in the top 5. This team has to stop buying damaged goods.

Hargraves was a stud at Florida and the guy I wanted until the last month. I think he more or less got bored his junior yr. He got beat on some big plays especially late in the yr but he was usually right there in coverage. He just got out jumped or got pushed off etc. I really haven't seen RAmsey a lot. I basically have just bought into the hype.
 

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There's probably 10 guys I'd be happy with at #4...
 

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Pretty good argument, hard to go against that. When do we go after a RB though? QB is a need. Wr is kind of a need too, so is TE. This team is swiss cheese every where except OL.

If it were up to me, I would target QB and RB in round 3 and 4. I would pray like hell Dak Prescott fell to round 3, and if not him there are other alternatives - I happen to like Brissett from NC State as a mid-late round option. Dallas can grab a productive RB in round 4 and beyond - many teams have demonstrated this over the past several years. Beyond that I'm looking for BPA. This is just my thinking, ultimately I trust McClay to make the right decisions.

I'm happy to let Darren McFadden go into next year as the starter at RB, so I don't feel the need to spend a high pick on RB.

AT TE, I'm really hoping Dallas moves on from Escobar and looks at Dwayne Allen in free agency. Allen would really upgrade the athleticism at that position. I don't think he would be too costly.
 

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There's probably 10 guys I'd be happy with at #4...

1)Tunsil
2)Bosa
3)Buckner
4)Goff
5)Wentz
6)Ramsey
7)Hargreaves
8)Jack
9)??
10)??

Just curious, who am I missing? Elliott? A. Robinson? Stanley?
 

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Ramsey may go #1


i think he is #1 on the Cowboys board and if he is gone at #4 wouldn't be surprised to see the Cowboys trade down hoping to pick up a mid-level 1st round pick along with another 2nd rounder
 

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Ramsey may go #1

Almost feels like Tennessee has to draft Tunsil. They have to protect Mariota, he got hit a lot last year. And Tunsil is worthy of the pick - even if it's not the sexy pick.

Cleveland has to take a QB. Wentz or Goff.

San Diego is the real danger in preventing us from landing Ramsey, IMO. Need secondary help bad, Ramsey may very well be BPA.
 

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1)Tunsil
2)Bosa
3)Buckner
4)Goff
5)Wentz
6)Ramsey
7)Hargreaves
8)Jack
9)??
10)??

Just curious, who am I missing? Elliott? A. Robinson? Stanley?
Didn't exactly bother to make a list. Looking at the 8 you listed, probably even more than 10 though. I don't like Wentz in top 10. Love the ND Tackle. Also, think there are a bunch of DL and pass rush guys that could be in play. All depends on who goes in front of us really.
 

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RAmsey , Jack, Elliott only ones I want at 4.
 

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Jack at 4 is too high imo
 
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