Hard to believe that last good team Cleveland played in the EC was..

[DorianRo]

The freakin Bulls 2 years ago before Gasol goes down with injury when they were up 2-1 in the series. They haven't played a legitimate threat since




Then people wonder why some of us what conferences eradicated

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

The freakin Bulls 2 years ago before Gasol goes down with injury when they were up 2-1 in the series. They haven't played a legitimate threat since




Then people wonder why some of us what conferences eradicated

Yet some people think this era of basketball is the most amazing and competitive we've ever seen

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Also, let's get one thing clear:

Yes lebron is a phenomenal player. HOF worthy and possible top 5 player of all time.

Yet he's hardly had ANY competition in the Eastern Conference playoffs.

 

[DorianRo]

Also, let's get one thing clear:

Yes lebron is a phenomenal player. HOF worthy and possible top 5 player of all time.

Yet he's hardly had ANY competition in the Eastern Conference playoffs.

True, and hes been whining for more help all year despite being the defending champs. If neither conference improves, whats the point of having a playoffs? Most of these series haven't even been competitive this year.

At this rate, we may as well skip the Warriors/Cavs finals for another 4-5 straight years

 

[gordontrue]

This is so overstated. In the time frame mentioned, since the last time the Cavs supposedly faced a "good team" in the East.... they've beaten five 50-win EC teams and a 60-win EC team. Just because those teams weren't ultimately able to seriously threaten the Cavs doesn't mean they are suddenly not good teams.

Also.... Laker fans might want to think about Magic & Kareem before they start complaining about opponent difficulty:

2nd Round - average playoff opponent
Jordan: 51.9 wins
LeBron: 51.18 wins
Magic: 43.12 wins
Kareem: 42.71 wins

Conf Finals - average playoff opponent
Jordan: 58.5 wins
LeBron: 55.44 wins
Magic: 51.1 wins
Kareem: 52 wins

Finals - average playoff opponent
Jordan: 61.17 wins
LeBron: 61.91 wins
Magic: 60.44 wins
Kareem: 58.1 wins

Overall
Jordan: 53.54 wins
LeBron: 51.02 wins
Magic: 48.6 wins
Kareem: 48.55 wins

Take that for data

 

[DorianRo]

Even two of the best teams I have ever witnessed play the game since I started watching the in the late 90s (better than any teams Ive seen in the last 15 years anyways) were the late 90s Bulls and 2000-2002 Lakers. Both of these teams were at least CHALLENGED and pushed to game 7s by certain teams in their own conferences.

 

[Battlelyon]

LeBron never got swept in the playoffs unlike Jordan.

 

[jontaejones]

Also, let's get one thing clear:

Yes lebron is a phenomenal player. HOF worthy and possible top 5 player of all time.

Yet he's hardly had ANY competition in the Eastern Conference playoffs.

But he faces the stiff competition in the Finals.

What difference does it make what round you face the competition?

When Shaq got through to the Finals, he had to look forward to being guarded by Todd McCullough, and a washed Mutombo. What a joke...

 

[DorianRo]

LeBron never got swept in the playoffs unlike Jordan.

Lebron never dealt with the '86 Celtics either. Lebron got swept in the finals to a team not even as good as the '86 Celtics

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

But he faces the stiff competition in the Finals.

What difference does it make what round you face the competition?

When Shaq got through to the Finals, he had to look forward to being guarded by Evan Eschmeyer, and a washed Mutombo. What a joke...

You mean Mutombo who was an NBA All-Star, DPOY and league leader in blocks?!?

Where the hell are you getting "washed" from?

 

[jontaejones]

You mean Mutombo who was an NBA All-Star, DPOY and league leader in blocks?!?

Where the hell are you getting "washed" from?

He definitely wasn't the Mutombo of old.

Those teams that the Lakers beat to win those Championships were some of the weakest Eastern conference champs ever.

If LeBron can somehow manage to beat this year's Warriors, that will trump anything Kobe or Shaq has ever come close to doing.

 

[Battlelyon]

Facepalming facts, somebody can't handle the truth. I hate interrupting this LeBron hatred circle jerk.

 

[Battlelyon]

LeBron has already beat the all time winning team to win the title.

 

[The Derski]

This is so overstated. In the time frame mentioned, since the last time the Cavs supposedly faced a "good team" in the East.... they've beaten five 50-win EC teams and a 60-win EC team. Just because those teams weren't ultimately able to seriously threaten the Cavs doesn't mean they are suddenly not good teams.

Also.... Laker fans might want to think about Magic & Kareem before they start complaining about opponent difficulty:

2nd Round - average playoff opponent
Jordan: 51.9 wins
LeBron: 51.18 wins
Magic: 43.12 wins
Kareem: 42.71 wins

Conf Finals - average playoff opponent
Jordan: 58.5 wins
LeBron: 55.44 wins
Magic: 51.1 wins
Kareem: 52 wins

Finals - average playoff opponent
Jordan: 61.17 wins
LeBron: 61.91 wins
Magic: 60.44 wins
Kareem: 58.1 wins

Overall
Jordan: 53.54 wins
LeBron: 51.02 wins
Magic: 48.6 wins
Kareem: 48.55 wins

Take that for data

 

[jontaejones]

Then people wonder why some of us what conferences eradicated

You'd still have a Cavs-Warriors final, right?

 

[RobToxin]

LeBron never got swept in the playoffs unlike Jordan.

One could also say Jordan was never swept in the NBA Finals. Unlike LeBron.

Both statements would be absolute garbage though because both times, Jordan and LeBron were one man teams.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Facepalming facts, somebody can't handle the truth. I hate interrupting this LeBron hatred circle jerk.

A lot of jealousy and hate...thats for sure. lol

I love it though---- let them hate- and let LeBron keep serving them soggy shit sandwiches. LOL

 

[DorianRo]

You'd still have a Cavs-Warriors final, right?

Without conferences Depending on the draws, maybe not.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

If LeBron can somehow manage to beat this year's Warriors, that will trump anything Kobe or Shaq has ever come close to doing.

You mean a threepeat?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Facepalming facts, somebody can't handle the truth. I hate interrupting this LeBron hatred circle jerk.

6-0 is also better than 3-4

Fact, nut-hugger.