Greatest basketball team ever assembled….

[tlance]

I liked after I read his first line, lol. I watched MJ too as he was only reason I turned the damn TV on. Basketball was my sport and all I wanted to do. Lebron is the furthest thing from humble or Jordan. Give it up before you dig your hole deeper.

LeBron isn’t Jordan.

I don’t even have LeBron as GOAT.

I have it as a tie at the top.

But anyone who thinks it isn’t close is in denial.

That would be you.

I never said LeBron was humble. What I said is that Jordan isn’t either.

 

[Pastafazul]

I liked after I read his first line, lol. I watched MJ too as he was only reason I turned the damn TV on. Basketball was my sport and all I wanted to do. Lebron is the furthest thing from humble or Jordan. Give it up before you dig your hole deeper.

Tlance watches a game with textbook in hand , analytically puts the game into words and they adore him cultlike.

Me, I watch and apply what I was taught and how I played it. And it freaks me out that all the game today is school yard ball and showmanship. There is no loyalty to the game, team, fans.

I ain’t grammatically correct , but people who really know. Know!

 

[tlance]

Tlance watches a game with textbook in hand , analytically puts the game into words and they adore him cultlike.

Me, I watch and apply what I was taught and how I played it. And it freaks me out that all the game today is school yard ball and showmanship. There is no loyalty to the game, team, fans.

I ain’t grammatically correct , but people who really know. Know!

Not close to true.

I played in an era way before analytics were a thing.

But I actually understand it and am capable of doing basic math.

If you hate the modern game so much, why do you post here?

The game has changed because players and coaches have evolved as they have learned more about efficiency and high value shot attempts.

If you can’t evolve your thinking to keep up, that makes you a dinosaur.

 

[logic]

Tlance watches a game with textbook in hand , analytically puts the game into words and they adore him cultlike.

Me, I watch and apply what I was taught and how I played it. And it freaks me out that all the game today is school yard ball and showmanship. There is no loyalty to the game, team, fans.

I ain’t grammatically correct , but people who really know. Know!

Because we agree with tlance does not come close to meaning that we adore him cultlike. It means that we also understand the modern NBA and how it has eveloved.

You watching the applying the game how you were taught and played back in the dark ages is what is the problem. Like everything else, basketball evolves and you need to change with it or get left behind.

It is clear which choice you have made and now just want to sit on the porch yelling at the kids to get off your lawn.

 

[Pastafazul]

Not close to true.

I played in an era way before analytics were a thing.

But I actually understand it and am capable of doing basic math.

If you hate the modern game so much, why do you post here?

The game has changed because players and coaches have evolved as they have learned more about efficiency and high value shot attempts.

If you can’t evolve your thinking to keep up, that makes you a dinosaur.

BS

The game hasn’t evolved for the better , unfortunately seems to be that way with everything today ..

Money changed the game !

And now I should not post cause I don’t like what I see.. this shitt keeps up the game will be lost.

 

[Pastafazul]

What makes me lol is when they mic the coach during a time out..

All they do is coddle the player. And say shoot shoot shoot , ya got the shot!

Wow , the game has truly evolved!

 

[tlance]

BS

The game hasn’t evolved for the better , unfortunately seems to be that way with everything today ..

Money changed the game !

And now I should not post cause I don’t like what I see.. this shitt keeps up the game will be lost.

You don’t understand the math, so obviously you would say that.

Passing on mid range jump shots where the league average is slightly above 40% in favor of more 3s where the league average is 36% and you get an extra point os smart basketball.

They still take roughly the same amount of shots at the rim, just get there differently and take many fewer of the least efficient shots in the game.

 

[logic]

BS

The game hasn’t evolved for the better , unfortunately seems to be that way with everything today ..

Wow, could you sound more like the grumpy old man?

Money changed the game !

Money has changed every game. That is true. But it if weren't for the money you would not have the talent that there is or the availability to see as much of it as you do. You still want them to cut to Heidi instead of seeing the end of games? Only want 3 channels of TV and only your local teams available. Maybe not even broadcast some of the playoffs?

And now I should not post cause I don’t like what I see.. this shitt keeps up the game will be lost.

You should feel free to post what you want. Just don't be surprised when people point out how archaic your views are.

 

[tlance]

What makes me lol is when they mic the coach during a time out..

All they do is coddle the player. And say shoot shoot shoot , ya got the shot!

Wow , the game has truly evolved!

You do comprehend that they aren’t allowed to show the coaches actually talking Xs and Os right?

 

[Pastafazul]

You do comprehend that they aren’t allowed to show the coaches actually talking Xs and Os right?

You’re kidding right?

Wow, could you sound more like the grumpy old man?

Money has changed every game. That is true. But it if weren't for the money you would not have the talent that there is or the availability to see as much of it as you do. You still want them to cut to Heidi instead of seeing the end of games? Only want 3 channels of TV and only your local teams available. Maybe not even broadcast some of the playoffs?

You should feel free to post what you want. Just don't be surprised when people point out how archaic your views are.

lol did you mean HAZEL? Cause I f n hated that show! That annoying nazel biotch I would have smacked the crud out her

 

[logic]

You’re kidding right?


lol did you mean HAZEL? Cause I f n hate that show! That annoying nazel biotch I would have smacked the crud out her

Nope, I was talking about the famous NBC decision to switch from the Raiders game to show Heidi because of wanting to keep to their regular schedule causing fans to miss an incredible Raider come from behind victory over the Jets.

 

[Pastafazul]

Nope, I was talking about the famous NBC decision to switch from the Raiders game to show Heidi because of wanting to keep to their regular schedule causing fans to miss an incredible Raider come from behind victory over the Jets.

What so special about a victory over the jets , lol

 

[logic]

What so special about a victory over the jets , lol

Umm, this was 1968, back when they were relevant.

 

[Pastafazul]

Umm, this was 1968, back when they were relevant.

And you call me the grumpy old man?

 

[Jordan23]

LeBron isn’t Jordan.

I don’t even have LeBron as GOAT.

I have it as a tie at the top.

But anyone who thinks it isn’t close is in denial.

That would be you.

I never said LeBron was humble. What I said is that Jordan isn’t either.

And I said Jordan is 10 times more humble than LeBron which is also true. I can’t put a guy who has to credit himself like LeBron as the goat. He plays ina league now that’s soft and that doesn’t just mean physical contact. They are weaker in the sense of how they act and flop and overreact to foul calls. Lebron will lay on the floor and act hurt over literally nothing and has tantrums. He should be able to score easy with his speed when he has the size advantage over damn near everyone. Jordan did it with pure athleticism and his jumper. Lebron can just bulldoze all
The way to the lane. That’s hard to do lol

 

[logic]

And you call me the grumpy old man?

I was 3 days old when it happened. It is just famous enough that I know about it.

 

[Pastafazul]

You don’t understand the math, so obviously you would say that.

Passing on mid range jump shots where the league average is slightly above 40% in favor of more 3s where the league average is 36% and you get an extra point os smart basketball.

They still take roughly the same amount of shots at the rim, just get there differently and take many fewer of the least efficient shots in the game.

Nonsense…

They changed the game to 3’s to make the game more interesting. And it’s failing.

BTW you forgot to say OPEN mid range shot

 

[Pastafazul]

And I said Jordan is 10 times more humble than LeBron which is also true. I can’t put a guy who has to credit himself like LeBron as the goat. He plays ina league now that’s soft and that doesn’t just mean physical contact. They are weaker in the sense of how they act and flop and overreact to foul calls. Lebron will lay on the floor and act hurt over literally nothing and has tantrums. He should be able to score easy with his speed when he has the size advantage over damn near everyone. Jordan did it with pure athleticism and his jumper. Lebron can just bulldoze all
The way to the lane. That’s hard to do lol

Exactly!!!

And that is why I don’t have leflop as the goat.

He lost his head somewhere along the way and he put himself before the game

Difference between MJ and leflop is simple

From the moment of tip off MJs head was in the game until the clock stopped

Leflop is cryin for a call , lookin into crowd to see who’s in attendance, seekin attention for the wrong reasons .

 

[Pastafazul]

Lamelo , last nights drive to hoop to seal victory pretty much sums up the NBA’s defense, playin 2-3 ft off the guy allowing him to penetrate and get past 3 defenders for a finger roll is beyond pathetic, and on you’re home court.

 

[logic]

Exactly!!!

And that is why I don’t have leflop as the goat.

He lost his head somewhere along the way and he put himself before the game

Difference between MJ and leflop is simple

From the moment of tip off MJs head was in the game until the clock stopped

Leflop is cryin for a call , lookin into crowd to see who’s in attendance, seekin attention for the wrong reasons .

This I can almost get on board with (without all the LeBron disrespect) and is similar to why I still hold Jordan #1 and LeBron a close #2.

I consider it the killer instinct. Jordan had it. As, I've said before, yes, guys dunked on Jordan. But he then made a point of wanting to defend them not only the rest of that game, but every time they met in the future to show that the guy wasn't going to dunk on him again. And he would dunk on them, repeatedly, and tell them about it. He wanted to make the guy's mom a fan of his instead of their own son.

LeBron does not have that same compulsion that Jordan had. I didn't like LeBron when he first came in the league. Not just because he was a Cav, though that is clearly more than enough, but because he didn't show the level of drive that his talent deserved. In his first couple of year he seemed to spend more effort on his little time out acts with teammates than he did on basketball strategy. That changed when he went to Miami. I think that Wade showed him what it take to win it all and after that first let down vs the Mavs LeBron was the most driven he's been in his career and he maintained it for a few years. At this point I think that fire is waning again as he is old and somewhat content with what he has done and how he will be remembered.

But it is that obsessive drive to be the best that, came naturally to Jordan but less so to LeBon, that, for me, will keep Jordan just beyond LeBRon as the GOAT.