Greatest basketball team ever assembled….

[logic]

Lamelo , last nights drive to hoop to seal victory pretty much sums up the NBA’s defense, playin 2-3 ft off the guy allowing him to penetrate and get past 3 defenders for a finger roll is beyond pathetic, and on you’re home court.

What do you want, the guys in the lane to take him out for a flagrant? Give him 2 shots and the ball? Ball is very quick and skilled. In the days that you glorify the result would have been the same, it would have just required a clear out with all the defenders pulled to one side and Ball on the other for the drive.

 

[Pastafazul]

What do you want, the guys in the lane to take him out for a flagrant? Give him 2 shots and the ball? Ball is very quick and skilled. In the days that you glorify the result would have been the same, it would have just required a clear out with all the defenders pulled to one side and Ball on the other for the drive.

Back then you knew you were gonna get clobbered instead of today havin free Will

 

[logic]

Back then you knew you were gonna get clobbered instead of today havin free Will

That is so untrue with the clear outs that were run.

 

[Wamu]

-->And I said Jordan is 10 times more humble than LeBron which is also true.<-- I can’t put a guy who has to credit himself like LeBron as the goat. He plays ina league now that’s soft and that doesn’t just mean physical contact. They are weaker in the sense of how they act and flop and overreact to foul calls. Lebron will lay on the floor and act hurt over literally nothing and has tantrums. He should be able to score easy with his speed when he has the size advantage over damn near everyone. Jordan did it with pure athleticism and his jumper. Lebron can just bulldoze all
The way to the lane. That’s hard to do lol

Didn't MJ once punch one of his teammates in practice?

 

[Jordan23]

Didn't MJ once punch one of his teammates in practice?

Yeah? He’s competitive as fuck too, more so than LeBron too. Humble and competitive are two entirely different things.

 

[logic]

Didn't MJ once punch one of his teammates in practice?

So did Draymond. I don't get what the point is you are trying to make.

 

[tlance]

And I said Jordan is 10 times more humble than LeBron which is also true. I can’t put a guy who has to credit himself like LeBron as the goat. He plays ina league now that’s soft and that doesn’t just mean physical contact. They are weaker in the sense of how they act and flop and overreact to foul calls. Lebron will lay on the floor and act hurt over literally nothing and has tantrums. He should be able to score easy with his speed when he has the size advantage over damn near everyone. Jordan did it with pure athleticism and his jumper. Lebron can just bulldoze all
The way to the lane. That’s hard to do lol

And that is an absurd opinion.

MJ and LeBron both have egos the size of Texas

 

[tlance]

This I can almost get on board with (without all the LeBron disrespect) and is similar to why I still hold Jordan #1 and LeBron a close #2.

I consider it the killer instinct. Jordan had it. As, I've said before, yes, guys dunked on Jordan. But he then made a point of wanting to defend them not only the rest of that game, but every time they met in the future to show that the guy wasn't going to dunk on him again. And he would dunk on them, repeatedly, and tell them about it. He wanted to make the guy's mom a fan of his instead of their own son.

LeBron does not have that same compulsion that Jordan had. I didn't like LeBron when he first came in the league. Not just because he was a Cav, though that is clearly more than enough, but because he didn't show the level of drive that his talent deserved. In his first couple of year he seemed to spend more effort on his little time out acts with teammates than he did on basketball strategy. That changed when he went to Miami. I think that Wade showed him what it take to win it all and after that first let down vs the Mavs LeBron was the most driven he's been in his career and he maintained it for a few years. At this point I think that fire is waning again as he is old and somewhat content with what he has done and how he will be remembered.

But it is that obsessive drive to be the best that, came naturally to Jordan but less so to LeBon, that, for me, will keep Jordan just beyond LeBRon as the GOAT.

The LaBradford Smith story was awesome.

LaBradford got a career high in a loss to the Bulls and reporters made a big deal about it.

Smith had 37. Jordan made it his mission to top that in the 1st half of their next matchup. He fell 1 point shy.

 

[dtgold88]

Factually correct, don’t make bullshit up, clown.

Not one former player/player thinks Lebron better than MJ? That really what you are going with, Tommy?

 

[dtgold88]

Laughable that anyone would compare the players of today vs the MJ era

They may have not been as gifted back then, but they played to win, were coachable, and we’re much more enjoyable to watch.

I can somewhat agree but it's because today's players are bigger, faster, kore athletic and big guys can shoot far better for the most part as can nonbigs.

 

[dtgold88]

Makin up and reachin what they do best…

Still shakin my head at tlances

33% of 3’s = 50% of 2’s

I see you adpted his lie as yours, too, Tommy 2.0? You think no player or former player thinks Lebron is better?

 

[logic]

Not one former player/player thinks Lebron better than MJ? That really what you are going with, Tommy?

here you go. knock yourself out

A whole website of NBA players quoted as saying LeBron is the GOAT.

 

[dtgold88]

This I can almost get on board with (without all the LeBron disrespect) and is similar to why I still hold Jordan #1 and LeBron a close #2.

I consider it the killer instinct. Jordan had it. As, I've said before, yes, guys dunked on Jordan. But he then made a point of wanting to defend them not only the rest of that game, but every time they met in the future to show that the guy wasn't going to dunk on him again. And he would dunk on them, repeatedly, and tell them about it. He wanted to make the guy's mom a fan of his instead of their own son.

LeBron does not have that same compulsion that Jordan had. I didn't like LeBron when he first came in the league. Not just because he was a Cav, though that is clearly more than enough, but because he didn't show the level of drive that his talent deserved. In his first couple of year he seemed to spend more effort on his little time out acts with teammates than he did on basketball strategy. That changed when he went to Miami. I think that Wade showed him what it take to win it all and after that first let down vs the Mavs LeBron was the most driven he's been in his career and he maintained it for a few years. At this point I think that fire is waning again as he is old and somewhat content with what he has done and how he will be remembered.

But it is that obsessive drive to be the best that, came naturally to Jordan but less so to LeBon, that, for me, will keep Jordan just beyond LeBRon as the GOAT.

agree with some of this but the guy dragged a team with Zydrunas Ilgauskas as the 2nd best player to the Finals (sorry if that opens a wound). He knew what it took well before he played with Wade.

 

[tlance]

Nonsense…

They changed the game to 3’s to make the game more interesting. And it’s failing.

BTW you forgot to say OPEN mid range shot

It is math.

An open 3 is a much better shot than an open mid range.

 

[dtgold88]

here you go. knock yourself out

A whole website of NBA players quoted as saying LeBron is the GOAT.

Haha...had a list on standby. was hoping he'd verify his lie one more time.

 

[dtgold88]

here you go. knock yourself out

A whole website of NBA players quoted as saying LeBron is the GOAT.

ready to own your lie @Jordan23 /Tommy?

 

[Wamu]

Yeah? He’s competitive as fuck too, more so than LeBron too. Humble and competitive are two entirely different things.

I just enjoy yer unhinged issues with the one player you hate-hate-hate so much. So much so you've seemingly told yourself he's the only great player that has ever flopped.

 

[Pastafazul]

I see you adpted his lie as yours, too, Tommy 2.0? You think no player or former player thinks Lebron is better?

in order to respond I need help in understanding this

 

[logic]

agree with some of this but the guy dragged a team with Zydrunas Ilgauskas as the 2nd best player to the Finals (sorry if that opens a wound). He knew what it took well before he played with Wade.

That was immense talent in a relatively week East. He could win on talent alone, but he did have the start of that killer instinct when he destroyed the pistons single handedly that one game. But it was one game versus sustained.

 

[dtgold88]

That was immense talent in a relatively week East.

East was weaker but not sure what you mean by immense talent. Other starters besides Z were Gooden, Snow and Sasha Pavlovic (Hughes usually out).

That team proved Lebron knew how to win not with a stacked Big 3.