Gnats post game 2

[skinsdad62]

exactly

 

[Sportster 72]

maybe you get a better throw if he isn’t hit . Also Dyami Brown isn’t a 50/50 ball guy

Would have been a TD to Samuel on the sideline if he could have lead him.

 

[Sportster 72]

he was going to him

He misses a lot of stuff. There were two receivers open there. One deep, one short.

 

[kbso83432]

Scott F'n Turner!!!

Last night for sure, but not in general. Lol

 

[skinsdad62]

Would have been a TD to Samuel on the sideline if he could have lead him.

Yep

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Sportster 72]

I will say this and would like to hear others opinions. It seems at times like TH senses pressure and starts to duck and almost climb the pocket and then thinks "hell no" and tries to back out. He would be better off bailing at first.

Anyone else notice this? If so do you think it is coaching or he isn't making a quick decisions. I know RR gets mad at him for not getting the ball out quicker.

 

[skinsdad62]

I will say this and would like to hear others opinions. It seems at times like TH senses pressure and starts to duck and almost climb the pocket and then thinks "hell no" and tries to back out. He would be better off bailing at first.

Anyone else notice this? If so do you think it is coaching or he isn't making a quick decisions. I know RR gets mad at him for not getting the ball out quicker.

I think wince does the same thing except he isn’t as mobile .
the o/line is fucked

 

[Samurai Night Fever]

Heinicke missed so much. Took unnecessary chances that amounted to nothing when he had guys wide open in the flat that would have resulted in 10 to 12 yards easy. Looks like he missed the protection call and gave up a fumble/touchdown.

Fumbled another time. Stumbled on his way into the endzone when he was about to dive. That was unfortunate for him. Damn near threw the game away on the INT that the Giants dropped at the end of the game. I dont think we lost because of Heinicke though. There were times last night where Heinicke was really good.

Don't think this has been brought up, but is a defensive player (Thibodeaux) allowed to go out of bounds, and then tackle an offensive player (Heinecke) from out of bounds like that? There wasn't a flag or anything of course, but I have never seen that happen before. Otherwise Heinecke gets to the pylon and scores a TD on that play, but you can clearly see that both of Thibodeaux's feet are out of bounds when he tackles/blocks Heinecke from getting there.

Doesn't really impact the outcome of the game of course, but just curious. I agree with alot of the people saying why did we get away from the run with BRob getting only 4 carries and zero in the red zone during the 2nd half (with the exception of the called back TD). Doc Walker even speculated that he was injured (??) which seems unlikely, and even if so then put in Gibson instead. Especially when they were on the 1 yard line, they have all the pre-snap motion with Scott getting cute...

 

[Samurai Night Fever]

I will say this and would like to hear others opinions. It seems at times like TH senses pressure and starts to duck and almost climb the pocket and then thinks "hell no" and tries to back out. He would be better off bailing at first.

Anyone else notice this? If so do you think it is coaching or he isn't making a quick decisions. I know RR gets mad at him for not getting the ball out quicker.

He definitely ran right past his right tackle into a defender on that final drive which made zero sense. Almost panicking and not committing to running or scrambling.

 

[kbso83432]

Don't think this has been brought up, but is a defensive player (Thibodeaux) allowed to go out of bounds, and then tackle an offensive player (Heinecke) from out of bounds like that? There wasn't a flag or anything of course, but I have never seen that happen before. Otherwise Heinecke gets to the pylon and scores a TD on that play, but you can clearly see that both of Thibodeaux's feet are out of bounds when he tackles/blocks Heinecke from getting there.

Doesn't really impact the outcome of the game of course, but just curious. I agree with alot of the people saying why did we get away from the run with BRob getting only 4 carries and zero in the red zone during the 2nd half (with the exception of the called back TD). Doc Walker even speculated that he was injured (??) which seems unlikely, and even if so then put in Gibson instead. Especially when they were on the 1 yard line, they have all the pre-snap motion with Scott getting cute...

I think Heinicke gets in if he doesn't trip. Not sure about Kevon. Scott gets cute because he has all these weapons at his disposal, but he doesn't have the line or the QB to make it work on a consistent basis.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Make them stack the box for Rob and when they do that's when you make them pay.

Part of me feels Scott is coaching for.his next job and not the one he has. Just a hunch.

 

[kbso83432]

I will say this and would like to hear others opinions. It seems at times like TH senses pressure and starts to duck and almost climb the pocket and then thinks "hell no" and tries to back out. He would be better off bailing at first.

Anyone else notice this? If so do you think it is coaching or he isn't making a quick decisions. I know RR gets mad at him for not getting the ball out quicker.

I've seen that. I love it when Taylor takes off. Could be he so used to being under duress, he's feeling stuff that's not there.

 

[j_y19]

not sure the reasoning

Don’t think you can cut an injured player.

 

[j_y19]

I will say this and would like to hear others opinions. It seems at times like TH senses pressure and starts to duck and almost climb the pocket and then thinks "hell no" and tries to back out. He would be better off bailing at first.

Anyone else notice this? If so do you think it is coaching or he isn't making a quick decisions. I know RR gets mad at him for not getting the ball out quicker.

Yes, I have noticed it. They did a good job of keeping him contaiNed in the pocket. He is starting to get happy feet.

I wonder if the coaches are stressing to him to stay in the pocket and step up?

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Brock2005]

Last night for sure, but not in general. Lol

I'd say in general. He is responsible for not running the ball early in the season.

 

[kbso83432]

I'd say in general. He is responsible for not running the ball early in the season.

Well they went and got Wentz and Robinson wasn't there and when he was, he wasn't what he is now. That's why I'm curious to see what Wentz looks like with a run first philosophy.

 

[kbso83432]

Was it all bad? No Robinson, Trai was banged up, WJ3 was still here, and we were still a pass first offense. No one is even a little curious.

 

[skinz2winz]

That had to be the most disappointing loss that I've experienced since the Giants game when Kirk threw the pick.

I almost called in today. I am crushed.

The Eagles, Cowboys, Vikings, all looked like shit this weekend. Gave me some false hope.

Heinicke missed so much. Took unnecessary chances that amounted to nothing when he had guys wide open in the flat that would have resulted in 10 to 12 yards easy. Looks like he missed the protection call and gave up a fumble/touchdown.

Fumbled another time. Stumbled on his way into the endzone when he was about to dive. That was unfortunate for him. Damn near threw the game away on the INT that the Giants dropped at the end of the game. I dont think we lost because of Heinicke though. There were times last night where Heinicke was really good.

The deep shot to Dotson, the out route to Samuel on a rope, the scramble for the first down, as well as the run he made on read option. The first drive in the 2nd half was perfect.

I thought Scott moving away from Robinson had a lot to do with this loss. Robinson is averaging 7ypc and after every 7 yard carry like clockwork comes the jet sweep to Samuel for -3 yards.

Leno, Norwell and Lucas got dominated. Thought Wes and Trai were bright spots in the run game.

I might have been a little premature in my victory lap with Logan. He's not getting separation and has what seems Iike a dumb penalty every week. Missing Armani and at this rate I could see the Skins moving on from him.

I'd take McLaurin, Dotson, and Samuel over Jax, Garçon, and Crowder. Might be a hot take but you'd understand if Kirk, Brandon and Trent were still here. They are elite.

Defensive line had its worst game. Zero pass rush and couldn't stop Barkley when it mattered. Missing Cole, but even then we need to draft a linebacker around the 3rd round or so. Forrest missed a big tackle on Barkley. Other than that the defense was great. Down Chase, Cole, and BSJ and JDR had this that side of the ball ready.

Very limited with Heinicke in there. With Wentz we might take a couple of more sacks but if the trade off is an extra touchdown or two, I might take it.

We struggle in the redzone because Heinicke can't make tight window throws.

Mara and Jerry have influence over these refs. I stand on that comment. Mara had enough influence to snatch all of our FA money years back. Understand this is a relationship league.

This is already too long. I'm pissed, hurt, dejected. Have to win two of the next three. Heinicke gets the start Saturday but if we are sitting on three points at the half again, I make the move.

Good post kb. I feel much the same here. Taylor is what he is and a nice backup. We need a spark on offense right now as we routinely sit on 12-20 pts which is not good enough however with Taylor, its all you are getting because of his warts. Turner got scared of being down 14-3 and abandoned Robinson, Jr. Pretty much sealed our fate because he is litterally putting the ball in TH's hands which is a mistake. I make the move now, what do you have to lose, another game? You are not beating SF scoring 17 pts and TH will be lucky to score that many against them. The decision making by this staff the past 3 seasons has been a head scratcher at best and at the very least when this season ends, a new OC must be in consideration if the new owner (hopefully the team is sold by March 2023) is not likely to fire RR. I think we can all agree with the talent on offense we currently have, a new OC who can utilize this talent better is needed.

 

[kbso83432]

Good post kb. I feel much the same here. Taylor is what he is and a nice backup. We need a spark on offense right now as we routinely sit on 12-20 pts which is not good enough however with Taylor, its all you are getting because of his warts. Turner got scared of being down 14-3 and abandoned Robinson, Jr. Pretty much sealed our fate because he is litterally putting the ball in TH's hands which is a mistake. I make the move now, what do you have to lose, another game? You are not beating SF scoring 17 pts and TH will be lucky to score that many against them. The decision making by this staff the past 3 seasons has been a head scratcher at best and at the very least when this season ends, a new OC must be in consideration if the new owner (hopefully the team is sold by March 2023) is not likely to fire RR. I think we can all agree with the talent on offense we currently have, a new OC who can utilize this talent better is needed.

I think if Ron didn't think he was gonna lose the locker room he would have already done it. I heard JP on B Mitch and JP say on the air that Scott is not a lock to return. That was an eyebrow raiser for me. JP doesn't just throw things out there like that.

I really can't judge Scott until he gets a QB and an offensive line that is at least capable. I'd hate to run Scott outta the building and then find out he can coach. His play calling leaves at to be desired at times. He got away from Robinson before we got down.

If I'm the coach I'm giving Heinicke the first half of the 49ers game to show me something. It's gonna take three touchdowns to win in the playoffs.

The season will ride on the Browns and Cowboys games.