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They both have their warts for sure.
The stats are almost identical, I have been saying that all year. The difference is in the W/L column but they are not winning because of Heinicke they are winning with him. Good QBing and they probably win both Giant games. As I said before I don't have a horse in the race. I just believe in calling it as I see it.

The only game they might be favored in these last three games is Cleveland no matter who is QB.
 

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The stats are almost identical, I have been saying that all year. The difference is in the W/L column but they are not winning because of Heinicke they are winning with him. Good QBing and they probably win both Giant games. As I said before I don't have a horse in the race. I just believe in calling it as I see it.

The only game they might be favored in these last three games is Cleveland no matter who is QB.
I feel the same way. I don't care who is under center as long as the offense is functional. It would be a huge gamble on Ron's part to switch now.

I think we've all see the ceiling for this team with Taylor. With Wentz the floor is probably lower, but im willing the guess the ceiling is higher based on the current state of the team.

I do not envy Ron.
 

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Agree on the Vikings game.

NY will probably need that last win against the Eagles and the Eagles will probably be resting their key starters. It's not such a sure loss for the NYG.

Cant argue with that really. On thr other hand,
Some coaches rest starters, and some dont. They’ll be getting a bye week anyway, and three weeks off is a long time to not get hit.
 

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not in Scott Turner's offense.
He has had 6 yrs of showing he can’t carry a football team . A guy who can carry a team goes 4-2 not 2-4 .

foles winning a superbowl clearly showed it was the team , not wince as the driving force

now was the defense and run game not up to snuff ? Sure , but it shows wince couldn’t overcome that as most qbs can’t . It also shows that teams win games not qbs . That’s a fact

no coach can mess with a streak . Wince and Falco are flawed. Falco is a BU . Neither guy has a future here
 

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I don't think there are any team carrying QBs here. Not to mention this is a TEAM game. It takes an entire team.
 

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Exactly, so why is TH still the QB?
The honest truth? Because we have no one better. Dean, you keep pointing out how bad TH is. And to an extent, you are right. What you aren’t right about is your evaluation of Wentz. Wentz hasn’t been good since the season the eagles last won the SB.
neither wentz nor Taylor are starting QB material. But Taylor has the team behind him. That’s the bottom line.
 

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I don't think there are any team carrying QBs here. Not to mention this is a TEAM game. It takes an entire team.
you are exactly right and in reaction to that you improve the team around the flawed qb by scheme , execution and surrounding talent . now you can put in wince , hope he can make plays falco cant but wince's flaws will come to the forefront and 6 games in this offense had better be enough
 

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To sum up can't score on offense and we turn the ball over. Can't win like that. This has been happening all year. In a must win game to come out like this is very troubling. I know we still have a shot in getting in but last night was just horrible.

So you talk about all the ”what ifs“ when it benefits CW but fail to acknowledge the obvious hose jobs in this last game. That is why you are a hypocrite.
 

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So you talk about all the ”what ifs“ when it benefits CW but fail to acknowledge the obvious hose jobs in this last game. That is why you are a hypocrite.

what are you talking about? Sure the refs had a say in the game but the offense didnt play well.
 

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i said we would not sweep the giants , i knew this when the schedule was announced , i said it over and over again as the season wore on . i am not surprised by the outcome .

wince and falco have equally the same pedestrian numbers

we need a qb and RR alluded to that in his presser
 

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what are you talking about? Sure the refs had a say in the game but the offense didnt play well.

You claim the Chicago game was bad play by everybody except CW stating we should have had ten more points on maybes.

Well, we had a TD called back because of a phantom hold and then there was a TM BS formation call after getting referred approval.
 

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You claim the Chicago game was bad play by everybody except CW stating we should have had ten more points on maybes.

Well, we had a TD called back because of a phantom hold and then there was a TM BS formation call after getting referred approval.

how is that the same as a missed easy FG and a dropped wide open TD pass? the TM call was the TD run that called back. Plus, we don't even know if we had scored if we convert the 2-point conversion to tie.
 

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how is that the same as a missed easy FG and a dropped wide open TD pass? the TM call was the TD run that called back. Plus, we don't even know if we had scored if we convert the 2-point conversion to tie.

Double standard Buddy. That is all.

In your made up world, things are only the fault of everybody other than your shitty QB.
 

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Double standard Buddy. That is all.

In your made up world, things are only the fault of everybody other than your shitty QB.

keep telling yourself that
 

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keep telling yourself that
So, Dean, what has Carson done wrong since being here? What is your honest evaluation of him? Do not compare him to TH, just an evaluation of his own attributes and drawbacks.
 

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So, Dean, what has Carson done wrong since being here? What is your honest evaluation of him? Do not compare him to TH, just an evaluation of his own attributes and drawbacks.

I thought he should have gotten a shot to play for the Giants game. He was 100% healthy and had two weeks to prepare. he is the most talented QB we have on the roster right now. It was a playoff game last Sunday night and RR still went with TH. Im not saying CW is the answer here but he should have gotten the start
 

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So, Dean, what has Carson done wrong since being here? What is your honest evaluation of him? Do not compare him to TH, just an evaluation of his own attributes and drawbacks.
i tell you if i hear one more time about wince having a pass dropped by samuel i will explode . and nothing about the penalty or leno missing a block , i could what if all day
 
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