Game of Thrones

[Shaggy]

Doubt Sam will have much heartburn over that...

Yeah, his father hated him, so he might be happy about it. I think he will be upset about his brother getting torched though.

 

[wildturkey]

Game of Thrones Star Clears Up Those Arya-Sansa-Littlefinger Questions You Have

By TV Guide
Posted Aug 29, 2017 at 5:38 PM

That still doesn't help much if they left it in. You'd still have like 4 episodes of nothing but confusion. For example, from what they showed, its not believable that Arya would kill her sister, which they jumped to so quickly. That needed to be ironed out more. You needed to see the suspicion build over multiple episode with multiple conversations with various characters in Winterfell. They needed to spend much more time with that plot. Adding the scene doesn't clean any of that up. The Bran scene is like putting down a paper towel to clean up a grocery isle of spillage.

 

[Edonidd]

I keep seeing people say there is evidence that Tyrion may be part Targyrean, but I never got anything close to that out of anything we saw. Am I missing something, or did others maybe misinterpret something?

 

[OutlawImmortal]

I keep seeing people say there is evidence that Tyrion may be part Targyrean, but I never got anything close to that out of anything we saw. Am I missing something, or did others maybe misinterpret something?

I don't think it's ever mentioned in the show but apparently the Mad King may have raped Joanna Lannister around the same time Tyrion was conceived. That is the reason for the theory that Tyrion may be part Targaryen. Tywin has always said that he could never have fathered such a son.

 

[Edonidd]

I don't think it's ever mentioned in the show but apparently the Mad King may have raped Joanna Lannister around the same time Tyrion was conceived. That is the reason for the theory that Tyrion may be part Targaryen. Tywin has always said that he could never have fathered such a son.

See, what I remember is the mad king having some sort of crush on her. And there being rumors of "inappropriate" actions happening during the bedding ceremony. But then Tywin sent her to Castelerly Rock to keep her away from the king. The bedding ceremony obviously being a long time before Tyrion was born since he is the youngest child.

Tywin Lannister was way too proud to have served a king who had raped his wife. Especially if that led to her death. He would have started the rebellion a whole lot sooner than Robert did. Or more likely quietly had him and his whole dynasdty killed.

 

[RegentDenali]

I don't think it's ever mentioned in the show but apparently the Mad King may have raped Joanna Lannister around the same time Tyrion was conceived. That is the reason for the theory that Tyrion may be part Targaryen. Tywin has always said that he could never have fathered such a son.

Exhibit #2: She also died giving birth to Tyrion which also seems to happen a lot when Targaryen males mate with non-Targaryen blood line females. Ned Starks sister met the same fate.

Exhibit #3: Not only did they not harm him as they were starving, they actually let him touch them like Jon Snow was able to do. He also mentions he dreamed of them constantly as a child.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

See, what I remember is the mad king having some sort of crush on her. And there being rumors of "inappropriate" actions happening during the bedding ceremony. But then Tywin sent her to Castelerly Rock to keep her away from the king. The bedding ceremony obviously being a long time before Tyrion was born since he is the youngest child.

Tywin Lannister was way too proud to have served a king who had raped his wife. Especially if that led to her death. He would have started the rebellion a whole lot sooner than Robert did. Or more likely quietly had him and his whole dynasdty killed.

Tywin did end up sacking King's Landing and ordering all Targaryens killed, even babies, which resulted in Oberyn representing Tyrion in his trial by combat after Tyrion was found guilty for assassinating King Joffrey.

He also said he was going to kill Tyrion as a baby but decided not to since he believed Tyrion was still a Lannister. Why was he ever in doubt about Tyrion being a Lannister?

I'm not saying I think it's right, but that's the theory.

 

[Shaggy]

Cool theory...

 

[Vyle203]

During some press this week, GOT confirmed each episode of the final season will be at least 80 min or longer basically turning each one into a feature length film by time. Some could be well over 90+ minutes.

Yea I kinda like the idea. Makes me less perturbed that there are only 6 for sure.

 

[Sparhawk]

See, what I remember is the mad king having some sort of crush on her. And there being rumors of "inappropriate" actions happening during the bedding ceremony. But then Tywin sent her to Castelerly Rock to keep her away from the king. The bedding ceremony obviously being a long time before Tyrion was born since he is the youngest child.

Tywin Lannister was way too proud to have served a king who had raped his wife. Especially if that led to her death. He would have started the rebellion a whole lot sooner than Robert did. Or more likely quietly had him and his whole dynasdty killed.

Tywin may have also been too proud to kill Tyrion when he was born.
Out of respect to Joanna and out of respect for Tyrion still being a Lannister.

There is absolutely history between Aerys and Tywin.

When Tywin was Hand to Aerys, things went swimmingly, so much that people claimed Tywin was actually charge. Ser Illyn Payne actually stated this aloud and Aerys had his tongue cut out. In the books, I believe Ser Barristan hints that Aerys had his way with Joanna on Tywin's wedding night, or something like that. Clearly, Aerys lusted after Joanna, so it's always a possibility that he eventually had his way with her somewhere down the line to get back at Tywin.

At some point, Tywin proposes to Aerys that Cersei should marry Rhaegar.
Aerys, mad as he was, or maybe just paranoid, could have seen that as threatening.
Not only did he dismiss the proposal, he then annointed Jaime to the Kingsguard at the youngest age ever.
As a member of the Kingsguard, Jaime is essentially a hostage, and as he could not marry, essentially ends the Lannister line. I believe that was enough for Tywin to resign as Hand.

If Aerys did impregnate Joanna with Tyrion, that would be two examples of non-Targaryean women dying at childbirth from Targaryean men, so maybe there is something to that. Though, two isn't exactly a large sample size and it being GRRM and all, it's probably nothing.

If Tywin is a Targaryean, it does make a parallel between Ned and Tywin in that they did everything in their power to avoid telling the truth so that they could protect their family names.

 

[Orlando Eagles]

Game of Thrones Star Clears Up Those Arya-Sansa-Littlefinger Questions You Have

By TV Guide
Posted Aug 29, 2017 at 5:38 PM

This is interesting. The most frustrating part of that whole plot was the sisters arguing in the room the previous week. If it was all a set up they were all in on what was the purpose of that? Now I see it was less an issue of plot design and more one of editing.

So.....it was an 80 minute episode but HBO would not green light 84 minutes???

 

[douggie]

 

[DetroitDevil]

So does jaime betray cersei and tell dany about euron going to pick up the army
From the bankers?

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

This is interesting. The most frustrating part of that whole plot was the sisters arguing in the room the previous week. If it was all a set up they were all in on what was the purpose of that? Now I see it was less an issue of plot design and more one of editing.

So.....it was an 80 minute episode but HBO would not green light 84 minutes???

They didn't even need 84. A short 1 minute scene (as someone already mentioned) of Sansa going into Bran's room for "help" would have done the trick.

 

[Sparhawk]

Would the Night's King take his dragon and visit all the local cemeterys and just start raising more dead?
We've seen crypts, but is it likely that they routinely burn their dead?
Or bury them in shallow graves outside city/castle limits?
Is there an ordinance for where you can bury your loved ones?
Cue the Monty Python "I'm not dead yet" clip....

 

[ill]

Would the Night's King take his dragon and visit all the local cemeterys and just start raising more dead?
We've seen crypts, but is it likely that they routinely burn their dead?
Or bury them in shallow graves outside city/castle limits?
Is there an ordinance for where you can bury your loved ones?
Cue the Monty Python "I'm not dead yet" clip....

I am willing to bet they don't complicate it with that. The living are already outnumbered, so I am not sure how much bigger they want to make the Army of the Dead. I can see them hitting Queenstown or something on their way in, but where exactly they are heading is a good question.

Are they going to Winterfell or are they heading to King's Landing?

 

[Inquisitor95]

Would the Night's King take his dragon and visit all the local cemeterys and just start raising more dead?

Don't have to when you can raise more dead by simply killing any living thing standing in your way.

 

[Sparhawk]

I think we can all agree that clearly, the Night's King is using a Level 7 Resurrection spell.
Is stability required to complete the ritual?
Can he perform this necromantic act while bobbing up and down on a dragon?

 

[Sgt Brutus]

You first.

Why root for Cersei?

Why root for Euron (urine)?

Why root for the NK?


Btw, I am open to this. I love alternate theories. I am a big fan of the fact that Daniel in The Karate Kid was actually the bully and not the blond haired kid (forget his name)

Cersei and Jamie are the best option for Westeros. Both Dany and Jon are responsible for tons of foreign scum getting into Westeros, with the Unsullied, Dothraki, and wildlings. The people of Westeros should band together in the south and prepare weapons and fire to fight the Night King but now there is a two front war with the invaders and Night King.

Cersei is smart. I think Tyrion has been sent to backstab Dany and Jon. I think deep down he knows it's wrong to destroy his family.

I think the Lanisters, despite their many faults, are a better option than crazy Dragon girl or Jon 'charisma-less acting and oath breaking' Snow.

 

[Cobrabit]

I think another reason people have thought Tyrion is a secret Targ is because his hair in the books is mentioned as light blond/white.