gagne trade

[lindbergh 31]

lets rework gagne contract . i am sure he wants to finish in philly .

 

[TOX1]

(awesome screen name bro!)

Interesting idea and one that I haven't heard here yet. So, are you thinking Gag's will take a pay cut to remain a Flyer?

 

[anderwho2513]

There are no renegotiations under the current CBA if you're talking about reworking it for this year. If you're talking extension, then he may take a discount, but it won't be a big one. You have to figure this will be one of if not his last chance at a bigtime contract.

 

[scottflyers88]

he will not be making as much as he is now so i am fine with anything he signs.

 

[banditshcky11]

it would be interesting if he signed something like a 32m 12 yr deal(I'm guessing he'd play 8 max). His cap hit would be nothing and I'm sure it would be front loaded to the point that he'd be happy, and he isn't 35 so it would work for the Flyers if he retired(by choice or if forced to).

 

[anderwho2513]

it would be interesting if he signed something like a 32m 12 yr deal(I'm guessing he'd play 8 max). His cap hit would be nothing and I'm sure it would be front loaded to the point that he'd be happy, and he isn't 35 so it would work for the Flyers if he retired(by choice or if forced to).

Interesting. Something like 6 6 5 5 5 5 5 3 .5 .5 .5 .5 would be 12 years, $42 million for a cap hit of $3.5 million. He gets paid now, we save now. Then he can retire at age 38, or if he keeps playing 3.5 isn't all that bad a cap hit, assuming the cap continues to rise steadily the way it has. If he is a waste of space, a buyout would only count about 300K against the cap for a few years. Oh well, we can't carry a 7th defenseman for a few months. Get 'er done!

 

[awaz]

would be an interesting way to go about it.. didnt the NHL said they were gunna crackdown on these type of contracts though after the hossa and pronger signings last year?

 

[scottflyers88]

yea the league would probably not approve this.

 

[banditshcky11]

I'm not so sure the league would have too much a of problem given an injury prone player a contract like that, it is possible that they demand a shorter term say maybe 8 years 30m. It would be about the same cap hit and for a player who will soon be declining that isn't a bad contract. Who knows though since it is the Flyers and Bettmen hates us.

 

[scottflyers88]

i do not know if bettman decides. it looks like gagne is gone either way though.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Why doesnt the NHL want these contracts?

 

[scottflyers88]

because they take advantage of the cap. lets say they sign gagne to 12 years and he only plays 8. it gives the flyers a smaller cap hit to improve their team now. it is not really fair since it kind of affects your cap and makes it seem higher.

 

[soulxflare]

because they take advantage of the cap. lets say they sign gagne to 12 years and he only plays 8. it gives the flyers a smaller cap hit to improve their team now. it is not really fair since it kind of affects your cap and makes it seem higher.

Then I'd think the league should have specific contract guidelines. Handling them on a "one off" basis like this just reeks of shenanigans.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Okay, gotcha. But fuck that. They expecting them to back load it?

 

[scottflyers88]

no. just not sign a 30 year old to a 12 year deal. well that is not out of the question. more like if they signed him to a 15 year deal.

 

[anderwho2513]

Zetterberg, Franzen, Hossa, Pronger, and Luongo all have these kinds of contracts. The NHL really can't do anything about it unless they put something into the new CBA whenever they need a new one. There is something in there now about how the salary from one year to the next cannot go up or down by more than half the average of the first 2 years of the contract, but they would need something like the salary of any year cannot be more than double or less than half the first year's salary. Then, Pronger couldn't make less than 3.8 any year of his contract, Luongo couldn't be less than 5, etc.

I can't imagine the GMs would like that.

 

[lindbergh 31]

i my self like gagne he is a great two way player , unlike carter would love to see him retire as a flyer and lets win a cup before he goes out . i like the way the flyers are shaping up this year .

 

[elocomotive]

I think GagneFire is a good poster. I don't think we should trade him unless we have some really good Rangers' fan prospects with spectacular prose.

 

[anderwho2513]

I think GagneFire is a good poster. I don't think we should trade him unless we have some really good Rangers' fan prospects with spectacular prose.

GagneFire for cofran straight up. Sorry, but we need someone to update us with the Phantoms.

 

[Vadered]

Guys, you know we can't trade any of the posters on the Flyers board. We all have NTCs, and no way somebody waives one of those to root for the Rangers.