Free Agent Frenzy thread

[mattola]

i doubt they would end up with a top 3 pick in that scenario ... not with the sedins on the team ... maybe they trade them to get there????

didnt think sedins would test free agency or consider going to another team as ufa's but with what alfie did all bets are off now

not even so much with the alfie decision but with the mismanagement of the players that gillis has done (more luongo/schneider) I could see them having new thoughts on their next contract. perhaps they will waive in the last year and we can get some prospects or high picks for them. all bets are off now

 

[jstewismybastardson]

plus when he was on the radio yesterday, Gillis mentioned they would have alot of cap space to look at other players after next year

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Mooney:

Like a Wal-Mart shopper trying to find a third DVD in the 3 for $20 basket, the Canucks continue to scour the bargain bins in free agency

 

[Vadered]

First off, Emery is NOT going to be the starter for the Flyers. We all know that Steve Mason will be the starter.

Actually, a lot of folks in Philly have concerns over Mason's ability to deliver as the full time starter. There is a very real chance Emery gets more starts than Mason. There wasn't a realistic chance, barring injury, of him getting more starts than Crawford.

And pretty sure we all know that Emery won't be as successful with the Flyers as he was with the Hawks. Flyers defense is not as solid as in Chicago and personally, Emery while good, is not great. He's slow to react at times and once down he's slow to get back up. His rebound control is worse than Crawford's. That being said, I would have liked to see Razer back in Chicago as Corey's backup once again.

Okay, see, here's the thing. The first part of your reasoning - that Philly's defense isn't as good as Chicago's - is a reasonable argument to make. It might be wrong or right (I personally think you are correct), but it's a testable assertion that serves to support your initial statement - that Emery won't be as successful with the Flyers as he would have with the Hawks. I'm okay with this.

The second part of your reasoning, where you trash talk Emery and point out his shortcomings as a goalie makes you sound like a petulant whiner. It doesn't support your argument that Emery'd perform better in Chicago, because if he has shitty rebound control in Philly, he'd have shitty rebound control in Chicago. If he has slow reaction times for the Hawks, he'd have slow reaction times for the Flyers. It's pointless and it comes off as sour grapes, and it makes your last statement about wanting him back confusing as hell.

I'm guess what I'm trying to say is that you sound like a dick. I don't mean you ARE a dick, but you might be better served to read your posts before posting and try and see how they come across to others.

 

[mattola]

Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff 2m
#Canucks Gilman tells @Team1040 Santorelli is on a 2-way contract

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Mooney:

Like a Wal-Mart shopper trying to find a third DVD in the 3 for $20 basket, the Canucks continue to scour the bargain bins in free agency

Welcome to the club.

 

[gmalis1]

Actually, a lot of folks in Philly have concerns over Mason's ability to deliver as the full time starter. There is a very real chance Emery gets more starts than Mason. There wasn't a realistic chance, barring injury, of him getting more starts than Crawford.



Okay, see, here's the thing. The first part of your reasoning - that Philly's defense isn't as good as Chicago's - is a reasonable argument to make. It might be wrong or right (I personally think you are correct), but it's a testable assertion that serves to support your initial statement - that Emery won't be as successful with the Flyers as he would have with the Hawks. I'm okay with this.

The second part of your reasoning, where you trash talk Emery and point out his shortcomings as a goalie makes you sound like a petulant whiner. It doesn't support your argument that Emery'd perform better in Chicago, because if he has shitty rebound control in Philly, he'd have shitty rebound control in Chicago. If he has slow reaction times for the Hawks, he'd have slow reaction times for the Flyers. It's pointless and it comes off as sour grapes, and it makes your last statement about wanting him back confusing as hell.

I'm guess what I'm trying to say is that you sound like a dick. I don't mean you ARE a dick, but you might be better served to read your posts before posting and try and see how they come across to others.

Watch him play as your starting goalie...and then pass judgement.

His 17-1 record with the Blackhawks last season was an aberration. Yes, he did steal ONE game last season with a phenomenal goaltending performance. But he mostly saw bottom echelon teams when Crawford needed a rest in a compressed schedule. And he is slow to get back up and his rebound control isn't all that great.

And I did say I would have been happy with Emery being back with the Hawks. It's not sour grapes and it's not whining...it's just the truth. Emery won't bring you a Stanley Cup. He's good...he's better than just average (at least last year he was), but he's not an upper echelon goalie like Quick or Rask. Heck, I'm not even sure Corey Crawford is an upper echelon goalie even with some sick stats he had during the season and the playoffs.

But playing on a really good team, and especially a really good defensive team, helps an awful lot. Just tell that to Pekka Rinne, who always has outstanding defensive teams in front of him and thus always has exceptional goaltending stats.

Good luck to Ray Emery and the Flyers. I hope your goalie situation is finally settled. But IMO, it won't be...and halfway through the season there will more goalie drama in Philly.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Actually, a lot of folks in Philly have concerns over Mason's ability to deliver as the full time starter. There is a very real chance Emery gets more starts than Mason. There wasn't a realistic chance, barring injury, of him getting more starts than Crawford.



Okay, see, here's the thing. The first part of your reasoning - that Philly's defense isn't as good as Chicago's - is a reasonable argument to make. It might be wrong or right (I personally think you are correct), but it's a testable assertion that serves to support your initial statement - that Emery won't be as successful with the Flyers as he would have with the Hawks. I'm okay with this.

The second part of your reasoning, where you trash talk Emery and point out his shortcomings as a goalie makes you sound like a petulant whiner. It doesn't support your argument that Emery'd perform better in Chicago, because if he has shitty rebound control in Philly, he'd have shitty rebound control in Chicago. If he has slow reaction times for the Hawks, he'd have slow reaction times for the Flyers. It's pointless and it comes off as sour grapes, and it makes your last statement about wanting him back confusing as hell.

I'm guess what I'm trying to say is that you sound like a dick. I don't mean you ARE a dick, but you might be better served to read your posts before posting and try and see how they come across to others.

Every player that has left this year's Hawks in the offseason has been a bum according to this guy.

What's amazing is that they were actually able to win the Cup with so many ECHLers on the squad.

For what it's worth I think the Flyers will have to rely on Emery this season. How much will range from 60 games to 25 games. If I was a betting man I'd wager that Emery ends up with more starts than Mason (assuming both are healthy).

In fact, anyone who has followed the NHL for the last few years should know that question marks don't really come any bigger than Steve Mason.

 

[mooger_35]

Roy to the Blues. 1 year @ $4 mill

 

[puckhead]

former Canucks signed by the Blues in the past two days:
- Derek Roy
- Maxime Lapierre
- Mark Mancari
- Alexandre Bolduc




also, this does not inspire confidence for Winnipeg:
WINNIPEG JETS: Agreed to terms with defenseman Adam Pardy and forwards Jerome Samson, John Albert and Andrew Gordon.

 

[Winged_Wheel88]

Updates on Cleary and Brunner?

 

[Trudem]

Updates on Cleary and Brunner?

From what I understand, the Wings want to sign Cleary to a 3 year for 2.6 per but we need to shed salary and or a player to stay under the cap and under the 50 man roster limit.

Brunner is apparently looking for something between 3 and 3.5 per season, which is ridiculous for a player with only a strike shortened season under his belt, thus assuring his butt out of Detroit.

If we do sign Cleary I would assume Tootoo and Emmerton are both traded. I will buy someone a beer if we can trade them Sammy...

I still really want Grabovski...

 

[Trudem]

Btw Twitter is pretty awesome...as long as its used properly. I don't care to know when people make a vowel movement...

 

[TiLoBrown]

WHEN IS IT Y?!

 

[mooger_35]

 

[forty_three]

Actually, a lot of folks in Philly have concerns over Mason's ability to deliver as the full time starter. There is a very real chance Emery gets more starts than Mason. There wasn't a realistic chance, barring injury, of him getting more starts than Crawford.



Okay, see, here's the thing. The first part of your reasoning - that Philly's defense isn't as good as Chicago's - is a reasonable argument to make. It might be wrong or right (I personally think you are correct), but it's a testable assertion that serves to support your initial statement - that Emery won't be as successful with the Flyers as he would have with the Hawks. I'm okay with this.

The second part of your reasoning, where you trash talk Emery and point out his shortcomings as a goalie makes you sound like a petulant whiner. It doesn't support your argument that Emery'd perform better in Chicago, because if he has shitty rebound control in Philly, he'd have shitty rebound control in Chicago. If he has slow reaction times for the Hawks, he'd have slow reaction times for the Flyers. It's pointless and it comes off as sour grapes, and it makes your last statement about wanting him back confusing as hell.

I'm guess what I'm trying to say is that you sound like a dick. I don't mean you ARE a dick, but you might be better served to read your posts before posting and try and see how they come across to others.

To the point in Bold - Mason has a seemingly endless well of natural ability. And he was very successful early. He thought this shit was easy, and it isn't. Last season he got smacked in the face with what it means to work at your craft looking across at Bobrovsky all year. I hope he gets it together, decides he has that burning desire inside him and finally delivers on all that promise.

But until that happens, the Flyers will go with whoever battles for the job. And if there is one thing Ray Emery does, it's battle.

To the rest, I will allow Kenny to illustrate it below:

Every player that has left this year's Hawks in the offseason has been a bum according to this guy.

What's amazing is that they were actually able to win the Cup with so many ECHLers on the squad.

For what it's worth I think the Flyers will have to rely on Emery this season. How much will range from 60 games to 25 games. If I was a betting man I'd wager that Emery ends up with more starts than Mason (assuming both are healthy).

In fact, anyone who has followed the NHL for the last few years should know that question marks don't really come any bigger than Steve Mason.

The thing about Mason's question marks is they should be easy to answer. But only he can do it. The real question is - will he?

 

[Trudem]

Lame...iPad doesn't fix my spelling mistakes

 

[johnnytata]

alfredsson getting crushed by some in ottawa media

Mats Sundin left Toronto after 13 years to play his final season in Vancouver, Raymond Bourque departed Boston after two decades to finish his playing days in Colorado and Mike Modano said farewell to the only franchise he had played in 20 years to end his career in Detroit.

But what they did isn't the same as Alfredsson leaving the Ottawa Senators Friday to sign as a free agent with the Red Wings, writes Michael Grange of Sportsnet.ca.

Grange says Alfredsson has forever tarnished his impeccable image in Ottawa by deserting the Senators and his loyal fans to sign a one-year deal with the Red Wings and pursue the Stanley Cup that has eluded him throughout his 17-season career.

His departure doesn't compare at all to the likes of Sundin, Bourque and Modano.

"A more apt comparison for Alfredsson leaving Ottawa might be Brett Favre leaving the Green Bay Packers," Grange writes. "In situations like that it's hard to make it to the other side alive.

"It's hard to be so closely woven into the fabric of a city — to help coach his boys in minor hockey and be a spokesman for mental health and other charity work — and to be present for every meaningful hockey memory every Senators fan has ever had and then leave and not feel the wrath. It's a thin line between love and hate and Alfredsson just might find out how delicate that line is.

"As someone said on Twitter Friday: 'Good luck selling your house when it's covered in egg.' Every hockey fan in Ottawa had only one image in their minds when they thought of Alfredsson. He was No. 11: the gritty, smart, caring captain who was front and centre of nearly everything that had ever happened to their team, for better or worse.

"Good luck to him. No matter what happens from here, his career will never be the same."

can't say i blame people for being angry, but isnt this a bit much? also i fail to see this guys logic, how is it that much different from sundin, borque, modano?

also, this is nothing like favre, this guy has no clue what he is talking about.

 

[TiLoBrown]

I dont follow football much but wasnt Favre pushed out when he decided to unretire or something?

 

[KennyBanyeah]

alfredsson getting crushed by some in ottawa media



can't say i blame people for being angry, but isnt this a bit much? also i fail to see this guys logic, how is it that much different from sundin, borque, modano?

also, this is nothing like favre, this guy has no clue what he is talking about.

People are bitter over this because it was so unexpected. The true fans will get over it and remember how good he was to the team and the city.

I wish him well but.....

I've always respected the likes of Yzerman, Lemieux, Sakic, etc. for playing their whole careers with one team. To me it always moved them into a different level of loyalty, perseverance and class over guys like Messier or Roenick. Alfie was in that class... until a couple of days ago.

Also, I want the Sens to beat the Red Wings as much as anybody this year. And it's not because they moved into the the same division.