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[Caliskinsfan]

Wtf?!

 

[dare2be]

Yes he is. Until January 20th.

 

[dash]

Wtf?!

I mean, I'm a Canadian and have a cursory knowledge of American politics and even I know that citizens of Puerto Rico are ineligible to cast votes for the president of the United States.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Scotts Baios supervisor at Michaels should get him to start working on organizing the artificial roses by colo(u)r now !!!

 

[dash]

Scotts Baios supervisor at Michaels should get him to start working on organizing the artificial roses by colo(u)r now !!!

That's Spike's job (about 3:40 in).

 

[puckhead]

ironically, the introduction of Spike was when Happy Days jumped the shark.

 

[sbb122]

Scotts Baios supervisor at Michaels should get him to start working on organizing the artificial roses by colo(u)r now !!!

Did he quit at Subway? Lol

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Hes still coated in orange spackle anyways

 

[Darkstone42]

It's mind boggling that there are people out there that can't even consider the idea that people don't only vote along party lines.

If Mike D was up for re-election, I would give him serious consideration. Then I would remember he praised the decisive action in Typhoid Amy's appointment and would vote against him.

But I wouldn't automatically dismiss him because of the letter next to his name. He's somewhere between moderately competent and worthy of praise for his leadership.

Beyond the danger of such baseless accusations is the abdication of responsibility to reach voters, to change minds and win votes. Don't just assume the other side cheated to win, work to turn out more voters who agree with or benefit from your politics and convince those who have been indoctrinated in conservative propaganda that you'll look out for them far better than Republicans have any interest at all in doing.

 

[dash]

This country is deeply divided and NO ONE on either side of the aisle is remotely interested in changing that.

This thread certainly seems to drive home Dave's statement above...

https://sportshoop.la/threads/are-%E2%80%9Chealing%E2%80%9D-and-%E2%80%9Cunity%E2%80%9D-possible.314439/

Edit: I know, I know, it's the other board, but quite a few of the more toxic posters have gone into hiding. Gee, I wonder why

 

[Darkstone42]

This thread certainly seems to drive home Dave's statement above...

https://sportshoop.la/threads/are-%E2%80%9Chealing%E2%80%9D-and-%E2%80%9Cunity%E2%80%9D-possible.314439/

This is something I struggle with. On the one hand, I think it's absolutely essential there be productive conversations which pull at least some of the right-wingers away from the white nationalism and intentional cruelty of the party they've been sucked up into; I think several have simply be exposed to so much propaganda they never stood a chance, and they only need to be compassionately directed to a more critical view of their own politics to realize what they're actually supporting, realize it's not what they want, and leave it behind.

On the other hand, as a friend told me recently, there need to be consequences for people who prioritize hurting the other in their politics, who stand in the way of progress for all of us just to ensure some out-group continues to suffer. Or who simply prioritize a couple tax dollars over the basic humanity of other people. And sometimes, that means just leaving them, cutting them off, especially if they're family or close in your friend group, where that would be a real consequence to deal with.

The message has to be sent that it's not okay to be a bigot. The message has to be sent that it's not okay to not care about the well-being of others.

Not all of this is questions of politics. Not all of it is simple differences of opinion. There is real right and wrong here, a real struggle of morality and justice, and diminishing that reality in favor of a convenient red vs. blue framing does real social harm.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

How? Trumps justice dept thats how!

 

[forty_three]

Obama: McCain's Palin pick shifted U.S. politics "in a direction he abhorred"

"Through Palin, it seemed as if the dark spirits that had long been lurking on the edges of the modern Republican Party."

www.axios.com

well, duh. She pretty much created Y'all Qaeda

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Heh



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//john oliver called him Lt Governor stone cold last show lol

 

[forty_three]

"Joe Biden is President-elect," GOP Ohio governor says

President-elect Joe Biden has begun to outline transition plans as President Trump pursues legal challenges to election results. Follow here for the latest.

www.cnn.com

Mike D must read the boards here and is trying to win my vote back. Pretty crazy that simply speaking the truth seems like a brave stance.

Hey Mike - Issue an executive order permanently closing Condado tacos and I'll think about it.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Obama: McCain's Palin pick shifted U.S. politics "in a direction he abhorred"

"Through Palin, it seemed as if the dark spirits that had long been lurking on the edges of the modern Republican Party."

www.axios.com

well, duh. She pretty much created Y'all Qaeda

He isn't wrong but I hope he reserved as much space in that book for the spineless members of his own party who kept abandoning him and the ideals that won him the White House in every election after 2008. So many senate and house democrats tried to play some stupid middle ground position instead of rallying around their guy in the WH and it cost them the house just two years after Obama came into power and enough senate seats in 12 and 14 that made it easy for the Republicans to get all three branches when Trump won in 16.

They saw how they fucked up in 2010 and then in 2014 they made literally all of the same mistakes. It was insane and if he was able to actually implement even half of the policies he wanted to and should've had the political power to the Democrats would've had such a better position to counter Trump in 16.

 

[Darkstone42]

He isn't wrong but I hope he reserved as much space in that book for the spineless members of his own party who kept abandoning him and the ideals that won him the White House in every election after 2008. So many senate and house democrats tried to play some stupid middle ground position instead of rallying around their guy in the WH and it cost them the house just two years after Obama came into power and enough senate seats in 12 and 14 that made it easy for the Republicans to get all three branches when Trump won in 16.

They saw how they fucked up in 2010 and then in 2014 they made literally all of the same mistakes. It was insane and if he was able to actually implement even half of the policies he wanted to and should've had the political power to the Democrats would've had such a better position to counter Trump in 16.

This is an especially poignant observation, I think, given how the Democrats are currently distancing themselves from their progressive members who dramatically outperformed their moderate counterparts in House elections this year. But it's probably hard for Obama to make that point himself, since it would come off as "whining" or "excuses" or whatever, since it was his administration that suffered for it. Then again, he's not running for office anymore, so why not risk that political capital he's never going to use again?

 

[thedddd]

Heh



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//john oliver called him Lt Governor stone cold last show lol

You might not like him. He is from Braddock (outside of Pittsburgh) and likes fries on his sandwiches.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

 

[mattola]