Foles Opting Out

[PickleRick]

Yep cause they don’t know an option is not a contract.
Your boss has you sign a 4 year contract. He says at the end of the 4 years o have the option to send you to Hawaii or just keep it at 4 years. Did you just sign a contract saying you’re going to Hawaii? Nope. You signed a 4 year contract and your boss will let you no if he adds on to the deal.

Again, the option is in the contract from the very begining. All you do is lie, lie, lie. Complete bullshit all the time. You post quotes that you convienently leave out important information that proves you wrong. When called out you just ignore it. There is a rwason that every single person on this site either pities you or thinks you are a complete fucktard. Its not the rest of the world......its you.

 

[SteelersPride]

Again, the option is in the contract from the very begining. All you do is lie, lie, lie. Complete bullshit all the time. You post quotes that you convienently leave out important information that proves you wrong. When called out you just ignore it. There is a rwason that every single person on this site either pities you or thinks you are a complete fucktard. Its not the rest of the world......its you.

@PickleRick he will ignore u since u are not one of a few he acknowledges. He claims it’s only like three that disagree with him, no one else. He will do this for days, has been doing this argument for weeks actually

 

[jarntt]

Now admittedly I really haven't read much of what people are saying here and I fear this will sully my stellar reputation...but...if I have the gist of it...I agree with PE. First rounders sign a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th year. It's really all just semantics because I think both sides understand the details. But to me, since the team has to take a legal action to opt in to the 5th year (as compared to opting out like some contracts are structured) I see it as a 4 year deal with an option for a 5th year.

 

[SteelersPride]

Now admittedly I really haven't read much of what people are saying here and I fear this will sully my stellar reputation...but...if I have the gist of it...I agree with PE. First rounders sign a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th year. It's really all just semantics because I think both sides understand the details. But to me, since the team has to take a legal action to opt in to the 5th year (as compared to opting out like some contracts are structured) I see it as a 4 year deal with an option for a 5th year.

Yep and after three years that option has to be stated, it’s hence part of the contract.

 

[Tapey]

Yet even more proof...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...raft-1st-round-rookie-salary-projections/amp/

This is my favorite part from that link

Furthermore, first round players have exclusive fifth-year options in their contracts

 

[PickleRick]

Now admittedly I really haven't read much of what people are saying here and I fear this will sully my stellar reputation...but...if I have the gist of it...I agree with PE. First rounders sign a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th year. It's really all just semantics because I think both sides understand the details. But to me, since the team has to take a legal action to opt in to the 5th year (as compared to opting out like some contracts are structured) I see it as a 4 year deal with an option for a 5th year.

Its a 5 year contract. 4 guaranteed, with the 5th year being a team option that can be executed by the team after the players 3rd year. There is no legal action that needs to be done, there is no restructuring, there is no new contract. The 5 years are stated plainly on the rookie contract.
And just to be clear, i was ignoring this completely because i figured it was just PE1 arguing endlessly over semantics as he is want to do. That all changed when i saw him post links and quotes stating it was a 4 year. This confused me, so i checked his own links and low and behold, PE1 had fraudulently missquoted, or cut quotes off in the middle to try and prove his point. This type of lying stupidity doesnt sit well with me and he is well know for doing it.

 

[redseat]

I think a tag and trade is a prudent business decision.

But considering what he did, letting him sign for the highest contract is something that gets you a definite net 3rd round comp pick looks better and they owe it to him to decide where he goes. Don't hold the man back.

It's amazing it has even gotten to this point... Dude was basically "retired" and now we are fighting about how much he should get paid

 

[jarntt]

A team opting in is a legal action

Its a 5 year contract. 4 guaranteed, with the 5th year being a team option that can be executed by the team after the players 3rd year. There is no legal action that needs to be done, there is no restructuring, there is no new contract. The 5 years are stated plainly on the rookie contract.
And just to be clear, i was ignoring this completely because i figured it was just PE1 arguing endlessly over semantics as he is want to do. That all changed when i saw him post links and quotes stating it was a 4 year. This confused me, so i checked his own links and low and behold, PE1 had fraudulently missquoted, or cut quotes off in the middle to try and prove his point. This type of lying stupidity doesnt sit well with me and he is well know for doing it.

a contract is a legal document and opting in to the 5th year is taking a legal action because it's not automatic. I understand the contract details. I just don't see it as a 5 year contract, I see it as a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th year. It's fine if you disagree.

 

[Manster7588]

I learned by reading it and it says the players are mandated in signing 4 year deals.

I learned by reading it and it says the players are mandated in signing 4 year deals.

When you sign a contract you are agreeing to said contract and the CBA . None of these guys signed not knowing full well they were under contract for that 5th year if the team opted for it.

 

[Manster7588]

Yep cause they don’t know an option is not a contract.
Your boss has you sign a 4 year contract. He says at the end of the 4 years o have the option to send you to Hawaii or just keep it at 4 years. Did you just sign a contract saying you’re going to Hawaii? Nope. You signed a 4 year contract and your boss will let you no if he adds on to the deal.

Wrong

 

[Manster7588]

Now admittedly I really haven't read much of what people are saying here and I fear this will sully my stellar reputation...but...if I have the gist of it...I agree with PE. First rounders sign a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th year. It's really all just semantics because I think both sides understand the details. But to me, since the team has to take a legal action to opt in to the 5th year (as compared to opting out like some contracts are structured) I see it as a 4 year deal with an option for a 5th year.

The option is written into the CBA therefore part of the contract signed.

 

[Manster7588]

@PhoenixEagles1 and @jarntt

Jarntt only reason I tagged you is PE will cry if I didn't since you agreed with him.

What is collective bargaining agreement? definition and meaning

Collective Bargaining Agreement

Written, legally enforceable contract for a specified period (usually one year), between the management of an organization and its employees represented by an independenttrade union. It sets down and defines conditions of employment (wages, working hours and conditions, overtime payments, holidays, vacations, benefits, etc.) and procedures for dispute resolution. Also called labor agreement, union agreement, or union contract.

 

[Manster7588]

Seriously, mods delete this thread. It can’t get any dumber

You underestimate PE

 

[jarntt]

The option is written into the CBA therefore part of the contract signed.

Correct, like i said I understand the details. I'm not disputing any of that and I see both sides. But, to me it's more a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th year than a 5 year contract because the action needs to be taken to activate the 5th year. If it were a passive option I would be more likely to see it as a 5 year contract. It's not like every 1st rounders 5th year option is picked up and those that aren't, aren't considered "cut". But, I'm not trying to convince anyone to see it the same way as I do. When I look at the below I see a 4 year contract while most of you see a 5 year contract. But I think we all pretty much seem to understand how it works so it's just semantics and really doesn't matter.

Ezekiel Elliott

 

[Manster7588]

Correct, like i said I understand the details. I'm not disputing any of that and I see both sides. But, to me it's more a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th year than a 5 year contract because the action needs to be taken to activate the 5th year. If it were a passive option I would be more likely to see it as a 5 year contract. It's not like every 1st rounders 5th year option is picked up and those that aren't, aren't considered "cut". But, I'm not trying to convince anyone to see it the same way as I do. When I look at the below I see a 4 year contract while most of you see a 5 year contract. But I think we all pretty much seem to understand how it works so it's just semantics and really doesn't matter.

Ezekiel Elliott

You do know that shows the 5th year option as part of his contract.

 

[PickleRick]

Correct, like i said I understand the details. I'm not disputing any of that and I see both sides. But, to me it's more a 4 year contract with an option for a 5th year than a 5 year contract because the action needs to be taken to activate the 5th year. If it were a passive option I would be more likely to see it as a 5 year contract. It's not like every 1st rounders 5th year option is picked up and those that aren't, aren't considered "cut". But, I'm not trying to convince anyone to see it the same way as I do. When I look at the below I see a 4 year contract while most of you see a 5 year contract. But I think we all pretty much seem to understand how it works so it's just semantics and really doesn't matter.

Ezekiel Elliott

Just because you choose not to execute something in a contract doesnt mean it isnt there. This is a fundemental part of a contract. It must be a 5 year contract for one or more sides to be able to utilize an option. That option IS in the contract. It cant be a 4 year contract because they dont have to negotiate the option to get a 5th.

 

[Inquisitor95]

Ok, let’s talk about extension then. If the rookie first round pick is extended a year it’s they play for 5 years right? So the four year contract they signed was later extended.
That’s the proof right there. There for year contract was extended to 5. That’s why they sign 4 year deals because we don’t know if the team will choose to keep it 4 years or extend it.
But I’m the dumb one.

 

[handicappers]

Its a 5 year contract. 4 guaranteed, with the 5th year being a team option that can be executed by the team after the players 3rd year. There is no legal action that needs to be done, there is no restructuring, there is no new contract. The 5 years are stated plainly on the rookie contract.
And just to be clear, i was ignoring this completely because i figured it was just PE1 arguing endlessly over semantics as he is want to do. That all changed when i saw him post links and quotes stating it was a 4 year. This confused me, so i checked his own links and low and behold, PE1 had fraudulently missquoted, or cut quotes off in the middle to try and prove his point. This type of lying stupidity doesnt sit well with me and he is well know for doing it.

He is the Hoop's biggest tard

 

[jarntt]

You do know that shows the 5th year option as part of his contract.

Yes. I just don't see that as a 5 year contract as much as I see it a 4 year contract with an option for the 5th year. It's just a more fitting way to describe it to me.

 

[Manster7588]

Yes. I just don't see that as a 5 year contract as much as I see it a 4 year contract with an option for the 5th year. It's just a more fitting way to describe it to me.

Ask yourself a question.

Is the 5th year option written into the contract?