Flyers really want Stamkos

[DChero]

I think you're right, Philly. I don't think anyone in the division wants to see Stamkos 6 times a year. Maybe the Capitals take Versteeg...

 

[elocomotive]

I think you're right, Philly. I don't think anyone in the division wants to see Stamkos 6 times a year. Maybe the Capitals take Versteeg...

Lol. Umm, pass.

 

[DChero]

Well there it is. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the West - as far away from Pittsburgh as possible, heh.

 

[forty_three]

610 is also the station that was CONVINCED that Mike Richter was signed. And then CuJo.

Didn't they also report that Lindros had been traded to Toronto at least five times for like half the Leafuses? And to the Rangers for Messier?

610 - Getting shit wrong for 20 years.

 

[GagneFire12]

Might as well throw a huge offer sheet at Stamkos - just to force Yzerman to match. This would effectively eliminate Tampa Bay from the free agent market for years to come.

 

[ELYEAH82]

Might as well throw a huge offer sheet at Stamkos - just to force Yzerman to match. This would effectively eliminate Tampa Bay from the free agent market for years to come.

And if they dont match take 4 1st from you and watch you try to complete your roster?

 

[awaz]

And if they dont match take 4 1st from you and watch you try to complete your roster?

exactly.. highest i'd go with an offer sheet is 8 mil.. and i dont even know if i would do that.. thats a big contract + 4 first rounders..

just look what trading 2 (+the most recent 1st round draftee) for pronger did to the flyers farm system

 

[GagneFire12]

And if they dont match take 4 1st from you and watch you try to complete your roster?

Yup. Trading Versteeg while letting Leino walk would do the trick. It would be a steep price, no doubt, but it's something Homer would have to think about. However, like many have said, I think Yzerman will match whatever is thrown his way.

 

[ELYEAH82]

Yup. Trading Versteeg while letting Leino walk would do the trick. It would be a steep price, no doubt, but it's something Homer would have to think about. However, like many have said, I think Yzerman will match whatever is thrown his way.

If it is true that he doesnt want to be in Tampa then the 4 first might be worth it. You also have JVR up for a raise next season for sure.

 

[GagneFire12]

exactly.. highest i'd go with an offer sheet is 8 mil.. and i dont even know if i would do that.. thats a big contract + 4 first rounders..

just look what trading 2 (+the most recent 1st round draftee) for pronger did to the flyers farm system

I don't think for a minute this will happen, but I'll play into the fantasy. With the Richards/Carter deals, the Flyers have essentially restocked their depleted farm system. They now have two bona fide prospects in Schenn and Couturier - and Bob is still a piece to consider. In regards to Stamkos, it comes down to his negotiating rights. You are either trading for them, or holding out on an offer sheet. At this point, trading for said rights would put them back at square one - because Yzerman would reel in AT LEAST Bob, Schenn, and a first. But if you keep your recently rebuilt prospect pool, while also factoring in the Flyers youth, the four first round picks (a hard pill to swallow, nonetheless) wouldn't be the end of the world. Adding a world-class talent like Stamkos would put the Flyers roster into immediate contention, and theoretically banish said first-rounders to the back of the line (the 20-30 range).

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I don't think for a minute this will happen, but I'll play into the fantasy. With the Richards/Carter deals, the Flyers have essentially restocked their depleted farm system. They now have two bona fide prospects in Schenn and Couturier - and Bob is still a piece to consider. In regards to Stamkos, it comes down to his negotiating rights. You are either trading for them, or holding out on an offer sheet. At this point, trading for said rights would put them back at square one - because Yzerman would reel in AT LEAST Bob, Schenn, and a first. But if you keep your recently rebuilt prospect pool, while also factoring in the Flyers youth, the four first round picks (a hard pill to swallow, nonetheless) wouldn't be the end of the world. Adding a world-class talent like Stamkos would put the Flyers roster into immediate contention, and theoretically banish said first-rounders to the back of the line (the 20-30 range).

Bob, Schenn & a 1st wouldn't get the Flyers Stamkos. An offersheet would give the Lightning 4 1st round picks.

If I were Yzerman I'd ask for Schenn, JVR, Voracek & a 1st round pick. If Holmgren says no I'd tell him go ahead & make your best offer. I'll match it & if I have to trade Stamkos I'm trading him somewhere else so don't bother calling me.

 

[awaz]

Bob, Schenn & a 1st wouldn't get the Flyers Stamkos. An offersheet would give the Lightning 4 1st round picks.

If I were Yzerman I'd ask for Schenn, JVR, Voracek & a 1st round pick. If Holmgren says no I'd tell him go ahead & make your best offer. I'll match it & if I have to trade Stamkos I'm trading him somewhere else so don't bother calling me.

i would never do that deal.. then again i'm against teams built around a superstar.. its just too risky to give up that, plus the ridiculous contract, just to have 1 player that plays 20-24 minutes a game.. or less if he gets hurt..

teams built around a single superstar dont work.. look at the finalists in the last few cups.. detroit, pitt, chicago, boston, vancouver, philly.. none of these teams are built around a sole supserstar.. the pens are really the only one close IMO but they have malkin and staal also.. its all about depth, and giving up 3 guys that should be on the opening night roster (cmon shenn, you can do it!) for 1 guy.. and 1 guy that will make 1.5 times the 3.. they'd almost have to move more salary just to fit him.. a team of claude giroux, steven stamkos, illya bryzgalov, andrej meszaros, and a couple old schmucks mixed in with AHL (or worse) talent will not win a cup.

i guess i take back my statement on the 4 1st rounders if thats the type of deals it would take to get stamkos, cause i'd rather give up 4 1st rounders for him.. but even then i'd be skeptical..

 

[elocomotive]

i would never do that deal.. then again i'm against teams built around a superstar.. its just too risky to give up that, plus the ridiculous contract, just to have 1 player that plays 20-24 minutes a game.. or less if he gets hurt..

teams built around a single superstar dont work..

What team is? Most of those teams have multiple superstars...

 

[TOX1]

Might as well throw a huge offer sheet at Stamkos - just to force Yzerman to match. This would effectively eliminate Tampa Bay from the free agent market for years to come.

Cold War Reagan tactics eh? I likey.

 

[TOX1]

4 1st's, ******** & Carle would suit me just fiiiiiine.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

4 1st's, ******** & Carle would suit me just fiiiiiine.

******* and Carle = 4 1st round picks right? So we can just keep some picks and give up those guys

 

[awaz]

What team is? Most of those teams have multiple superstars...

thats was supposed to be my point.. perhaps it wasn't clear, apologies

but if the flyers were to acquire stamkos they would be left looking like the caps.. with 1 superstar (OV-Stamkos) and 1 guy that looks like it sometimes, or looks like he will be one (Backstrom - Giroux)

i think the caps have done well to show us that combination doesn't work. (sorry caps fans)

i wouldn't trust briere, giroux, and stamkos to provide all the goals, which they would pretty much have to

 

[awaz]

******* and Carle = 4 1st round picks right? So we can just keep some picks and give up those guys

but this is logic i can get behind!

 

[elocomotive]

thats was supposed to be my point.. perhaps it wasn't clear, apologies

but if the flyers were to acquire stamkos they would be left looking like the caps.. with 1 superstar (OV-Stamkos) and 1 guy that looks like it sometimes, or looks like he will be one (Backstrom - Giroux)

i think the caps have done well to show us that combination doesn't work. (sorry caps fans)

Pffft, I don't think we have only one star even right now. Nor does Tampa Bay for that matter. Doesn't work is something you may be able to say in 10 years. Far from over yet. Last I checked, the top players in the game typically get theirs at some point. So I disagree with your assessment and your conclusion.

 

[jerseyjigroe]

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