Final Elite 11 QB's

[nddulac]

KJ Costello scares the bejeezies out of me.

Why do you have bejeezies in you to begin with?

 

[Codaxx]

Yeah the Elite 11 has selected guys that have gone on to the NFL, but only at a rate of just above 33%. You'd think they'd be able to do better than that. Obviously the guys selecting the players has changed over the years, so maybe they will start turning it around. Although the kid they chose committed to Rutgers makes me wonder, his only other scholarship offers were to Bucknell, Buffalo, Uconn, Monmouth, Temple and Towson.

33% isn't bad at all. That is pretty good.

 

[nddulac]

33% isn't bad at all. That is pretty good.

33% is pretty high compared to the bulk of college football. So yeah - pretty high!

 

[ericd7633]

33% isn't bad at all. That is pretty good.

I personally don't think it to be that good. Especially when half of that 33% was drafted in the 5th round or later.

 

[Codaxx]

I personally don't think it to be that good. Especially when half of that 33% was drafted in the 5th round or later.

How many QBs get drafted on an average year? That is out of 1000 or so playing as seniors in high school. I am guessing only about 5 to 8 get drafted in any class.

 

[Texas Jefe]

1st off bruh you suspect.

2nd off Johnny Football was never the 2nd coming of anyone. He was a 3 star dual threat. Those are a dime a dozen these days.

There aren't any star ratings for having "IT".

this is true.

think, the summer before JF won the Heisman, he was a nobody. Certainly was not even close to being on a pre-season Heisman favorite list, even as a longshot. Came out of nowhere...

Colt McCoy, while never winning it all, was a legendary QB to Texas fans, four year starter, etc. He was a 3 star recruit who only got to Texas because a 5 star flipped to another school.

 

[TNVolFan18]

Absolutely love Jarrett Guarantano. Can't wait to see what he can do. I just have a feeling he'll be special in the future.

 

[cwerph]

Absolutely love Jarrett Guarantano. Can't wait to see what he can do. I just have a feeling he'll be special in the future.

He's going to be really good. Wish Ohio State had room for him.

 

[kap1959]

this is true.

think, the summer before JF won the Heisman, he was a nobody. Certainly was not even close to being on a pre-season Heisman favorite list, even as a longshot. Came out of nowhere...

Colt McCoy, while never winning it all, was a legendary QB to Texas fans, four year starter, etc. He was a 3 star recruit who only got to Texas because a 5 star flipped to another school.

Actually, he beat out the 5 star recruit for the starting position. The 5 star left after he lost the starting position.

 

[Codaxx]

Actually, he beat out the 5 star recruit for the starting position. The 5 star left after he lost the starting position.

He is talking about Periloux. Colt was a split rated QB. Scout 4 star and Rivals 3. Judging a QBs ability to read a defense can be hard at the High School level. Most of them are on quality teams and never have to go past their primary target. It's why the rankings tend to favor the physical traits. Plus you never really know how much work a kid will put in the film room. I think the best saying for most of these guys is the following:

Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard

 

[Texas Jefe]

He is talking about Periloux. Colt was a split rated QB. Scout 4 star and Rivals 3. Judging a QBs ability to read a defense can be hard at the High School level. Most of them are on quality teams and never have to go past their primary target. It's why the rankings tend to favor the physical traits. Plus you never really know how much work a kid will put in the film room. I think the best saying for most of these guys is the following:

Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard

yes, I was talking about Perrilioux.

I remember, when Colt came in and I saw him for the first time at a practice, he was the smallest, skinniest little guy on the field. Not a vision that inspired confidence in the future...

but man he was a heck of a football player. I'd give anything to have a guy like him walk in the door again.

 

[Red_Alert]

Actually, he beat out the 5 star recruit for the starting position. The 5 star left after he lost the starting position.

That is a good point.

Elite 11 guys have the talent to play the position at the high school level, but not all have the talent or mindset for the speed of the game at the next level. Being a good QB takes leadership, organization skills (make sure everyone's where they're supposed to be), and the ability to adapt on the fly (reads/check-downs).
They are essentially an extension of the Offensive Coordinator on the field.

When I see the Nebraska board explode because they've just got a commitment from a 4* QB, I think of all the times through the years where similar guys never saw the field.

Harrison Beck comes to mind.

Hugging Harold Reynolds: HHR Signing Day Special: The Curious Case of Harrison Beck

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

We haven't had good success with Elite 11 QB's. I'm pretty sure Shane Morris was an Elite 11.

 

[7Samurai13]

We haven't had good success with Elite 11 QB's. I'm pretty sure Shane Morris was an Elite 11.

He was. I wouldn't trust anyone out of that Fairy Farm, DLS.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

He was. I wouldn't trust anyone out of that Fairy Farm, DLS.

As was Devin Gardner

 

[cwerph]

Curiously, none of the top 3 qb's at Ohio State made the Elite 11.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Curiously, none of the top 3 qb's at Ohio State made the Elite 11.

And that's part of the problem with recruiting sites -- a lot of their rankings come from camp performances or 7 v 7 drills.

 

[Codaxx]

The final Elite 11 QB's have been determined.


Shea Patterson (Ole Miss) is the MVP... the other 10 QB's in alphabetical order:

Shane Buechele (Texas)
KJ Costello (Stanford)
Jacob Eason (Georgia)
Feleipe Franks (LSU)
Jarrett Guarantano (Tennessee)
Dwayne Haskins (Maryland)
Malik Henry (Florida State)
Brandon McIlwain (South Carolina)
Brandon Peters (Michigan)
Anthony Russo (Rutgers)




Conference Breakdown:
SEC - 5
B1G - 3
ACC - 1
PAC - 1
Big XII - 1


It's nice to see the two newest members of the B1G getting themselves an Elite 11 QB recruit.

When do the Elite 11 guys announce the standings? That was just the 247 guys. Their MVP didn't finish above 5th the preceding 4 days, so the coaches might be significantly different

 

[Innermind]

When do the Elite 11 guys announce the standings? That was just the 247 guys. Their MVP didn't finish above 5th the preceding 4 days, so the coaches might be significantly different

My OP IS the official list released by the Elite 11... notice their Twitter handle/symbol. The Elite 11 official list is only in alphabetical order this year (plus the MVP).


The 247 list is a little different and actually has numerical rankings too.

The 247 list:
The 247Sports Final Elite 11

As you can see, the 247 list features Jawon Pass instead of Jarrett Guarantano.

 

[Codaxx]

My OP IS the official list released by the Elite 11... notice their Twitter handle/symbol. The Elite 11 official list is only in alphabetical order this year (plus the MVP).


The 247 list is a little different and actually has numerical rankings too.

The 247 list:
The 247Sports Final Elite 11

As you can see, the 247 list features Jawon Pass instead of Jarrett Guarantano.

Elite 11 guys had Shane Buchele and Mark Henry as the 2 QBs in on the Elite 11 Tourney team. Your list is in alphabetical order after the MVP