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[Bandit]

I dunno..NFC isn't too tough
There's LAR, maybe SF, GB, maybe MINN, DALL or Philly, and TB..and virtually everyone else in the same soup of suck, and getting to play ATL, and NO twice, the Browns week one which will be Brisett, the GMen, the QB-Less Seahawks, and the Lions...they'd almost have to try to finish sub 500

I think if the defense plays like they did the first half of last year then they have a shot to finish above .500 but if the defense that played the second half shows up the offense might not matter. I think it's bigger for Darnold than Mayfield because if this year doesn't go well then Mayfield will have no problem with another team giving him a shot, but this is it for Darnold.

 

[obxyankeefan]

I dunno..NFC isn't too tough
There's LAR, maybe SF, GB, maybe MINN, DALL or Philly, and TB..and virtually everyone else in the same soup of suck, and getting to play ATL, and NO twice, the Browns week one which will be Brisett, the GMen, the QB-Less Seahawks, and the Lions...they'd almost have to try to finish sub 500

During Matt Millen's tenure with the Lions only 1 team had a worse overall record then the Lions.

Spoiler

Yeah the Raiders

 

[TKOSpikes]

I think if the defense plays like they did the first half of last year then they have a shot to finish above .500 but if the defense that played the second half shows up the offense might not matter. I think it's bigger for Darnold than Mayfield because if this year doesn't go well then Mayfield will have no problem with another team giving him a shot, but this is it for Darnold.

Or the Baker signing is “it” for Darnold.

 

[wilwhite]

and then theres this

Speaking on the Ya Never Know podcast, Baker Mayfield noted that he tore his labrum in Week 2 and fractured a bone in his shoulder in Week 6 of the 2021 season.​

“So I tore my labrum completely, like full front and like basically 90 percent in the back. That was Week 2. I did that in the first half. Played the rest of the game, I was fine. ... Four weeks later, we were playing the Cardinals, and I dislocated my shoulder again. But I dislocated it so bad and at a different angle that the bone, like the humerus that goes up into your shoulder socket, like the big bone right here [that] comes up into your ball and socket and it forced its way out. And I fractured the bone because it wasn’t gonna be a clean exit. So I fractured the bone. So when I had the labrum done and that fracture, the inflammation and everything, I had no function in my left shoulder," Mayfield elaborated. As much as we poke fun at Mayfield, it's not hard to empathize with him for playing through this and being irked that the Browns went out and got a new quarterback.

First six weeks of 21 were solid. Other eight games were ghastly.

 

[wilwhite]

I think they should give the rook every bit of a chance to win the starting job outright from Baker and Darnold

Well, yeah, but I doubt he will.

 

[wilwhite]

Yes when the rubber meets the road the money Darnold makes won't matter, but Darnold will be given the chance to be on the road and given the chance and Mayfield will have to demonstrate he's better otherwise Darnold will get the tie breaker.

The tiebreaker would be how they’ve played in games that count, and Mayfield is way ahead. Darnold would have to convince the coaches that he’s a new and better player to have a chance to displace Mayfield.

Career passer ratings:
Darnold 76.9
Mayfield 87.8
Dak 98.7

Mayfield is as much better than Darnold as Dak is better than Mayfield. Which is a lot.

If Mayfield passes the physical, he’ll start unless Darnold or Corral kick the door down.

 

[Bandit]

The tiebreaker would be how they’ve played in games that count, and Mayfield is way ahead. Darnold would have to convince the coaches that he’s a new and better player to have a chance to displace Mayfield.

Career passer ratings:
Darnold 76.9
Mayfield 87.8
Dak 98.7

Mayfield is as much better than Darnold as Dak is better than Mayfield. Which is a lot.

If Mayfield passes the physical, he’ll start unless Darnold or Corral kick the door down.

Yeah I think Rhule knows that he has to win this year or he's getting fired, so he's going to play whoever gives him the best shot to win regardless of salary or anything else.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Yeah I think Rhule knows that he has to win this year or he's getting fired, so he's going to play whoever gives him the best shot to win regardless of salary or anything else.

I'm not optimistic about CMac chances of staying healthy and without him the Panthers offense will stall and figure it's a lock Rhule gets fired end of season if not sooner. Baker is coming off surgery, will he be 100%? Darnold has familiarity with the plays , the offense, the system and the supporting cast. I don't feel Baker is a lock to start game one, but at some point he'll start and once the Panthers are fully out of the running Rhule will be told to try and develop Corral if Rhule hasn't been fired already.

 

[TREFF]

I'm not optimistic about CMac chances of staying healthy and without him the Panthers offense will stall and figure it's a lock Rhule gets fired end of season if not sooner. Baker is coming off surgery, will he be 100%? Darnold has familiarity with the plays , the offense, the system and the supporting cast. I don't feel Baker is a lock to start game one, but at some point he'll start and once the Panthers are fully out of the running Rhule will be told to try and develop Corral if Rhule hasn't been fired already.

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Ha...games played since 2018
Baker 60, Sam 50


PA's-
Baker 1924
Sam 1625

And Darnold is still THAT close in in INT's?? 10 less games and 300 fewer attempts?

Besides, we all know who would be running away with this.

Jameis Winston has 47 ints since 2018, and he barely even played in two of those seasons

 

[TREFF]

Ha...games played since 2018
Baker 60, Sam 50


PA's-
Baker 1924
Sam 1625

And Darnold is still THAT close in in INT's?? 10 less games and 300 fewer attempts?

Besides, we all know who would be running away with this.

Jameis Winston has 47 ints since 2018, and he barely even played in two of those seasons

Oh..and TD passes since 2018

Baker 92
Sam. 54

 

[TREFF]

The Athletic's Nate Taylor projects Josh Gordon to make the 53-man roster.
Taylor's projection comes 16 days after ESPN's Adam Teicher predicted Gordon would be on the outside looking in. Per Taylor, the coaching staff believes Gordon can "be a nice target for Patrick Mahomes in limited opportunities." Gordon apparently impressed during the offseason program after his uninspiring 2021-22 53-man roster cameo. What is clear is that, on the team or not, Gordon is being viewed as a strict role-playing option for his age-31 campaign.


So, granted it's an Athletic report..but...

I agree, Josh Gordon is a forgotten man in KC, he's now had plenty of time in the system, with Mahommes, and his physical abilities have never been an issue . Granted at 31, I'm sure they aren't what they were, but, given the lack of proven depth on a team with SB expectations, I have a hard time envisioning him not being on the 53, and could easily see him being a real factor should MVS, JuJu, or Sky Moore falter and not mesh with Mahommes. I'm still not sold on Hardman ever being much more than the gadget/go route guy, but he has

 

[TREFF]

The Athletic's Nate Taylor considers Ronald Jones a "legit candidate" to earn the Chiefs' starting job over Clyde Edwards-Helaire.

Nate has been busy lately-

Given the competition, I sure wouldn't rule it out.

However, RoJo always is amazing in shorts and shells, it's game time where the shine wears off.

I will say this though, he has shown me more than I ever thought he had in him. Still not a good RB, but better than the complete bust I had him pegged as (similar to his competition, CEH)

 

[SmokingMonkey]

The Athletic's Nate Taylor considers Ronald Jones a "legit candidate" to earn the Chiefs' starting job over Clyde Edwards-Helaire.

Nate has been busy lately-

Given the competition, I sure wouldn't rule it out.

However, RoJo always is amazing in shorts and shells, it's game time where the shine wears off.

I will say this though, he has shown me more than I ever thought he had in him. Still not a good RB, but better than the complete bust I had him pegged as (similar to his competition, CEH)

KC could just rotate all of the WRs/RBs all year and all be mediocre for fantasy but still have that offense humming. Guessing right on the one that gets TDs besides Kelce seems impossible at this stage.

 

[TREFF]

KC could just rotate all of the WRs/RBs all year and all be mediocre for fantasy but still have that offense humming. Guessing right on the one that gets TDs besides Kelce seems impossible at this stage.

My guess would be that at RB, that'll likely be the case all year long, unfortunately.

But I do believe there will be a WR that is 'the' guy, that might not be apparent until after the first few weeks, but I do think it'll happen.
But yeah, total guessing game at this point. Gun to my head, I'd pick Juju today.

 

[Clayton]

I look at the Chiefs roster, I see MVS deep, Hardman is the gadget/YAC player, Juju is the possession receiver, Kelce is the #1. Skyy Moore waiting in the wings to take Hardman's job. I remember seeing Josh Gordon 1 on 1 deep last year and the DB outplayed him on what should have been a long TD. Thats not a veteran that I'm excited to see. I think Gordon really only sees the field if injuries happen but...man...I'd say he still probably doesnt make the team.

RB competition is a real story, though. Its probably CEH's job to lose just due to various excuses but my guess is that RoJo is probably close to being a 1A RB and given CEH's injury history I think probably the better fantasy bet if you can get him later. I strongly suspect they'll have similar numbers if they both stay healthy.

 

[Clayton]

I will say that the argument for Ronald Jones being the outright #1 is that he is bigger than CEH. Good at outside zone and better North to South. 4" longer Wingspan and when your QB scrambles, throws off back feet or off handed and that longer Wingspan actually might be a major factor.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Ha...games played since 2018
Baker 60, Sam 50


PA's-
Baker 1924
Sam 1625

And Darnold is still THAT close in in INT's?? 10 less games and 300 fewer attempts?

Besides, we all know who would be running away with this.

Jameis Winston has 47 ints since 2018, and he barely even played in two of those seasons

Your right about Mayfield playing in more games, for example last year they both threw for 13 interceptions but Mayfield played in 2 more games and 2019 Mayfield threw for 22 TDs and 21 interceptions to Darnolds 19 TDs and 13 interceptions but Mayfield played in 2 more games. Still I don't think Mayfield is really much better or maybe any better. Darnold played mostly for the hapless Jets and had washed up Bell and Crowder while Mayfield had Chubb (second leading rusher in 2019) and Hunt also Landry and OBJ. Browns have a simple run heavy offense that doesn't lean on the QB, while the Jets were hopelessly losing behind a poor OL and bad defense. Always having to throw to catch up, we have seen Zach Wilson play with the Jets for a comparison.
Yes Mayfield has the better stats, but he should given his team was so much better. Now we'll see a more even field, except that Mayfield is coming off an injury and also surgery, hasn't been able to stay in shape or work out properly, new team, new coach, new offense. I feel to much is made of raw stats without including context. I feel Darnold and Mayfield are about even in lack of talent and we'll get to see it for ourselves this season.

 

[TREFF]

I will say that the argument for Ronald Jones being the outright #1 is that he is bigger than CEH. Good at outside zone and better North to South. 4" longer Wingspan and when your QB scrambles, throws off back feet or off handed and that longer Wingspan actually might be a major factor.

With ya on all of it..but with the caveat that at the ends of that wingspan are two blocks of stone, and he's had more than a couple times where his ball skills while running routes, make that AJ Green missed opportunity in the end zone from last year, look like a great play.

 

[Clayton]

With ya on all of it..but with the caveat that at the ends of that wingspan are two blocks of stone, and he's had more than a couple times where his ball skills while running routes, make that AJ Green missed opportunity in the end zone from last year, look like a great play.

Stone hands do matter because Chiefs had a lot of turnovers last year where the skill players got their hands on the ball. CEHs fumble against the Ravens basically cost the Chiefs an entire game in the standings.

Its a real RB competition. The reason I figure the numbers will be about even is that I dont really think either RB has the juice to really pull away from the other one.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

With ya on all of it..but with the caveat that at the ends of that wingspan are two blocks of stone, and he's had more than a couple times where his ball skills while running routes, make that AJ Green missed opportunity in the end zone from last year, look like a great play.

Rojo at least tries to catch it, AJG was looking at some hotties in the front row or something on that play!