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[TREFF]

Yep..and I would agree, that no matter your opinion, or even the truth, about him, starting him this week is truly a pipe dream.
Ain't saying you wont get lucky, but if I'm that sort of desperate in a redraft, I'm grabbing Stevenson and starting him

And with the news of Williams being inactive...I reached that level of desperation and have Bell going in two leagues...fingers crossed

 

[SmokingMonkey]

And with the news of Williams being inactive...I reached that level of desperation and have Bell going in two leagues...fingers crossed

was shocked that Williams got scratched, even if the plan was to roll with Murray/Bell this week. But if he's a redundant talent, they needed to see if shaking things up would change anything....the answer appears to be no. I didn't watch, were both RBs plodding away as their box scores suggest?

Murray just salvaged his day with a TD and some extra volume with Ty'Son scratched?

Neither RB garnering a target...at least Ty'Son got some looks in the passing game. This is going to some great lengths to torpedo the fantasy value of the BAL RB, hahaha.

Took a lot of stabs as RB3/4's across my leagues, swing and whiff

 

[femurov]

Man, is Ty'son Williams a drop? I read somewhere that he might not even be active for tomorrow's game.

I'm wondering the same thing. Bye weeks are starting to come up. Will be tough to hold onto him for much longer, but they did just barely get 100 yards yesterday, so maybe they give him the rock a couple times next week since he has been producing. But I think it is his pass pro that is the main concern.

 

[TREFF]

was shocked that Williams got scratched, even if the plan was to roll with Murray/Bell this week. But if he's a redundant talent, they needed to see if shaking things up would change anything....the answer appears to be no. I didn't watch, were both RBs plodding away as their box scores suggest?

Murray just salvaged his day with a TD and some extra volume with Ty'Son scratched?

Neither RB garnering a target...at least Ty'Son got some looks in the passing game. This is going to some great lengths to torpedo the fantasy value of the BAL RB, hahaha.

Took a lot of stabs as RB3/4's across my leagues, swing and whiff

I watched most of it. missed one drive, which just happened to be Bell's best carry of 4 yards. The one thing I noticed is that they rotated the first half, Murray got the first series, Bell the second, Freeman the third..then it was mostly Murray with Bell in on random drives, usually in the third down type situations.
The thing about they way they attacked the Denver D, there wasn't' a ton of the standard RPO stuff, and that's what drives the RB production regardless of who's back there. If the defense isn't quivering in their boots, wondering if Lamar is gonna hand it off or run himself, they key on that RB, and the vast majority of the run plays were standard stuff..which was weird. They obviously identified the passing game as the way to beat Denver, and it worked. I mean shoot, they had to run a designed QB sweep on the final play of the game so they could get 100 yards rushing as a team and break an NFL record of consecutive games with 100+ yards rushing..when they SHOULD have been in victory formation taking a knee.

The box score and the play by play is not indicative of the SOP of the Ravens offense. I will say that Bell looked very slimed down from the last time I saw him on the field, and seemed to have decent burst towards the hole, but since it was standard handoff stuff, and the Denver D front seven is pretty stout, those holes never really were holes. Its tough to make a definitive determination, but I suppose you could say, that if he was anything like what he used to be, he'd have made a little bit more out of the chances he got than he did. I'd like to see him got a shot at running with the RPO stuff before I say he's toast, because he wasn't exactly plodding, there just wasn't' room to run. Period

 

[TREFF]

Man, is Ty'son Williams a drop? I read somewhere that he might not even be active for tomorrow's game.

in a redraft, maybe..depends on your roster makeup. in a Dynasty, no..I"m holding onto him as long as I can, he looked better than decent running the ball, and pass pro can be fixed if the desire is there. I'd definitely give it a week or two before dumping him. They made decided to cut Bell or Freeman and bring him back, neither are setting the world on fire

 

[TREFF]

If the Hoodie has any decency in him whatsoever, Stevenson will be active and JJ Taylor will be punished for 3 weeks for his fumble.

Geesh man, I mean the doghouse is one thing, but come one man, this was a dude that week 1 you gave EARLY touches too, he was obviously a part of the game plan. I mean unless he's just go ta piss poor attitude and the "message" isn't getting through about the whole fumble thing, other than that, I cannot see why he's still inactive.

In the meantime, it would appear that D. Harris is just fine handling most of the touches all around. I've always hated the pigeon holing of those early down backs.."oh they don't' contribute in the passing game"..well they said that about Peterson, but when called upon he did fine. They said that about Henry, yet when called upon, he's a stud in it. Either a guy can catch and run a basic flat route or a screen..or he can't, and most can, its just that they aren't asked to. Sorta similar to DeSean Jackson or Brandin Cooks, they are more than just simple deep threats, but that's the role they generally get pigeon holed into.

 

[Robotech]

in a redraft, maybe..depends on your roster makeup. in a Dynasty, no..I"m holding onto him as long as I can, he looked better than decent running the ball, and pass pro can be fixed if the desire is there. I'd definitely give it a week or two before dumping him. They made decided to cut Bell or Freeman and bring him back, neither are setting the world on fire

I haveTy'son Williams in a couple redraft leagues. With Jimmy G getting hurt yesterday, now I feel dumb for dropping Trey Lance to pick up Williams. I do have Herbert already, though.

 

[Robotech]

I'm wondering the same thing. Bye weeks are starting to come up. Will be tough to hold onto him for much longer, but they did just barely get 100 yards yesterday, so maybe they give him the rock a couple times next week since he has been producing. But I think it is his pass pro that is the main concern.

I think I'm dropping for someone who was active this past week. LOL.

 

[femurov]

I think I'm dropping for someone who was active this past week. LOL.

Devin Bush hit our waiver wire and I do have a LB on bye week 6, so I want to jump on that. Williams is the low man on the totem pole, it looks like. Either him or Rondale Moore.

 

[SteelersPride]

I played fields in dynasty yesterday. im shocked nagy didnt come up with a plan to get the passing game humming, or even attempt to. strange. @averagejoe

 

[TREFF]

I played fields in dynasty yesterday. im shocked nagy didnt come up with a plan to get the passing game humming, or even attempt to. strange. @averagejoe

I can promise you Joe isn't shocked, frustrated probably, pissed maybe..but not shocked

 

[averagejoe]

I played fields in dynasty yesterday. im shocked nagy didnt come up with a plan to get the passing game humming, or even attempt to. strange. @averagejoe

Based on the fact that Montgomery was getting carries and there was a resemblance to an offense, Nagy must have relinquished playcalling duties to Lazor.

Lions should have won.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Based on the fact that Montgomery was getting carries and there was a resemblance to an offense, Nagy must have relinquished playcalling duties to Lazor.

Lions should have won. Lions shot themselves in the kneecap.

 

[ANGELAKERAMS]

Not sure I understand this. Williams certainly hasn't been bad, and no one knows yet what Freeman has in the tank.

Williams looked good the first two games, and then they brought in all the old vets and are now putting Williams inactive to run out old retreads.

And what was the result? alot of nothing. Murray averaged 3.3 ypc. Bell was 2.8, and Freeman was 4 with his one carry.

Meanwhile, Williams averaged 7.2, 5.9 and 4.4 in the games he has played in. That's 6.1 yard average on 27 attempts. Murray is averaging 3.4 yards on 44 attempts. Somebody please explain what the coaching staff has against using their best players ( even if they are young guys )? Because sitting this guy and playing 3 old retreads instead makes zero sense for the team.

btw, his 6.1 yard average is 5th best in the league.

 

[TREFF]

Williams looked good the first two games, and then they brought in all the old vets and are now putting Williams inactive to run out old retreads.

And what was the result? alot of nothing. Murray averaged 3.3 ypc. Bell was 2.8, and Freeman was 4 with his one carry.

Meanwhile, Williams averaged 7.2, 5.9 and 4.4 in the games he has played in. That's 6.1 yard average on 27 attempts. Murray is averaging 3.4 yards on 44 attempts. Somebody please explain what the coaching staff has against using their best players ( even if they are young guys )? Because sitting this guy and playing 3 old retreads instead makes zero sense for the team.

btw, his 6.1 yard average is 5th best in the league.

Williams also allows on coming rushers and blitzers free access to the QB. You can average 10 YPC and if you can't pass pro you don't play much. Plenty of guys aren't great at pass pro and still play, but Williams is a whole other level of bad at pass pro

 

[ANGELAKERAMS]

Williams also allows on coming rushers and blitzers free access to the QB. You can average 10 YPC and if you can't pass pro you don't play much. Plenty of guys aren't great at pass pro and still play, but Williams is a whole other level of bad at pass pro

Well, their offense isn’t going anywhere in the playoffs averaging 3 ypc.

And a lot of Jackson’s throws are made on the run anyways, so it’s not like he is standing in the pocket for 3+ seconds.

 

[Bandit]

was shocked that Williams got scratched, even if the plan was to roll with Murray/Bell this week. But if he's a redundant talent, they needed to see if shaking things up would change anything....the answer appears to be no. I didn't watch, were both RBs plodding away as their box scores suggest?

Murray just salvaged his day with a TD and some extra volume with Ty'Son scratched?

Neither RB garnering a target...at least Ty'Son got some looks in the passing game. This is going to some great lengths to torpedo the fantasy value of the BAL RB, hahaha.

Took a lot of stabs as RB3/4's across my leagues, swing and whiff

It was bad. They all just look so slow to hit the hole. I mean some of that is because Lamar Jackson is so damn fast that he makes everybody else look like they are in slow motion, but like Treff said, they don't seem to be doing anything to even try and make the running game successful right now. Ty'son Williams looked a lot better than the other 3 but they obviously don't like him and I know it's because he sucks at pass protection. But honestly, he's probably only been working on that since the day before the season started when both Hill and Edwards were knocked out. It will be interesting to see what they do next game. Freeman should be the odd man out because he is more terrible than even Bell is. Bell's skill set just doesn't match at all with the Ravens scheme because his pass catching prowess is completely wasted with them. I guess you could say that Murray has been the best of the older guys, but it's not like averaging 3.4 ypc is exactly tearing it up and that's 44 carries for 151 yards so it's certainly enough of a sample size at this point. Williams is averaging 6.1 ypc on 27 carries. I swear he must be sleeping with Harbaugh's daughter or something.

 

[TREFF]

Well, their offense isn’t going anywhere in the playoffs averaging 3 ypc.

And a lot of Jackson’s throws are made on the run anyways, so it’s not like he is standing in the pocket for 3+ seconds.

They ain't making the playoffs at all if the RB allows TJ Watt to put Lamar in the hospital either.

I mean, you're %100 correct, but the reason he isn't playing is a big deal.

On a related note, listening to the local Denver jag offs, the defensive scheme was to stop the run. Beat reporters claim they were told that virtually every play from their base defense for this game, had a minimum 8 guys assigned to run first, often times 9. And I think the results bear that out, they shut down the run, as they intended.

 

[ANGELAKERAMS]

They ain't making the playoffs at all if the RB allows TJ Watt to put Lamar in the hospital either.

I mean, you're %100 correct, but the reason he isn't playing is a big deal.

On a related note, listening to the local Denver jag offs, the defensive scheme was to stop the run. Beat reporters claim they were told that virtually every play from their base defense for this game, had a minimum 8 guys assigned to run first, often times 9. And I think the results bear that out, they shut down the run, as they intended.

I understand the game plan being a part of the poor average, except those are his averages for the season, so it’s not just the 1 game.

No team is going to fear that run game ( with the exception of Jackson ) with the retreads they are running out there.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]