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without knowing any of the details, I've been crazy busy the last week, so haven't read up on any of this yet

is Watson getting in trouble for getting the Robert Kraft special massage?
and he got it from 12-15 different women recently???
Sounds like he's in trouble for expecting/asking for/possibly pressuring them into...the Robert Kraft specialty massage
 

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RBs still unsigned:

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Anyone think that there is a RB left out there, after Fournette, that would realistically be a team's feature back??


Teams that still have a GLARING need at RB
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And MAYBE SF..debatable if Mostert/Wilson showed enough...and Shanny collects RB's like they're Hummels
Plus another 5-6 teams that could use a good compliment to be part of a committee, or lead one.
With only Fournette as a realistic, reliable option as a feature back left, things are certainly shaping up where the rookie RB's SHOULD find some good landing spots.
 

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Anyone think that there is a RB left out there, after Fournette, that would realistically be a team's feature back??


Teams that still have a GLARING need at RB
PITT
ATL
MIA
NYJ
And MAYBE SF..debatable if Mostert/Wilson showed enough...and Shanny collects RB's like they're Hummels
Plus another 5-6 teams that could use a good compliment to be part of a committee, or lead one.
With only Fournette as a realistic, reliable option as a feature back left, things are certainly shaping up where the rookie RB's SHOULD find some good landing spots.

Gurley played well for the first ten games. I’d be surprised if the Falcons didn’t bring him back. Assuming he isn’t expecting a big payday.
 

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Gurley played well for the first ten games. I’d be surprised if the Falcons didn’t bring him back. Assuming he isn’t expecting a big payday.
He did have 9 TD's in the nine games before the bye. But I don't think I'd call 159 for 584 (3.67ypc), "playing well". He was obviously efficient around the goaline though.
They obviously completely lost faith in him during the bye week, never getting more than 9 carries in any single game after, which tells me they really don't want him all that much.

I'd actually be real surprised if they brought him back at all.
I know I certainly won't be banking on him being a fantasy asset regardless of where he signs..if he signs anywhere.
 

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He did have 9 TD's in the nine games before the bye. But I don't think I'd call 159 for 584 (3.67ypc), "playing well". He was obviously efficient around the goaline though.
They obviously completely lost faith in him during the bye week, never getting more than 9 carries in any single game after, which tells me they really don't want him all that much.

I'd actually be real surprised if they brought him back at all.
I know I certainly won't be banking on him being a fantasy asset regardless of where he signs..if he signs anywhere.

you may be right. His knee was wonky after the Bye. They were being cautious.

still a touchdown maker though.

Falcons problems are on the other side of the ball though.
 

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Anyone think that there is a RB left out there, after Fournette, that would realistically be a team's feature back??


Teams that still have a GLARING need at RB
PITT
ATL
MIA
NYJ
And MAYBE SF..debatable if Mostert/Wilson showed enough...and Shanny collects RB's like they're Hummels
Plus another 5-6 teams that could use a good compliment to be part of a committee, or lead one.
With only Fournette as a realistic, reliable option as a feature back left, things are certainly shaping up where the rookie RB's SHOULD find some good landing spots.
fwiw fournette was good in the playoffs. His yearly advanced metrics have him as a replacement back.
 

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Broncos could be looking for a RB. Gordon is in his final year and so is Freeman who they lost faith in. Also they got cap space (37 million) if they want to try signing a player like Fournette.
 

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Broncos could be looking for a RB. Gordon is in his final year and so is Freeman who they lost faith in. Also they got cap space (37 million) if they want to try signing a player like Fournette.
That would surprise me a little bit...wouldn't floor me, but a little.

If RB was a place they wanted to spend money, they made a huge PR gaffe in letting Denver South HS alum, CO Boulder Alum, and local feel good inspiration story, Phillip Lindsay walk when they could've had him for just over 3 million. They turn around and spend money on a RB right after that?? There's gonna be some pretty pissed off Bronco fans calling for George Paton's head....unless they win a lot, than it'll be okay.
 

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fwiw fournette was good in the playoffs. His yearly advanced metrics have him as a replacement back.
YeahI am very interested in where he goes. I have multiple offers out for him currently though that have been thinking about accepting them. It sure seemed like the Bucs figured out how to use him late in the year and especially the playoffs.
 

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fwiw fournette was good in the playoffs. His yearly advanced metrics have him as a replacement back.
He's a bit of a mixed bag, for sure. But he certainly was better in TB with Brady, than he was that last stretch in JAX with whatever QB they picked that week
 

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He's a bit of a mixed bag, for sure. But he certainly was better in TB with Brady, than he was that last stretch in JAX with whatever QB they picked that week
Well again, in the playoffs he was. Prior to that he graded out as a non starter.
 

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Anyone think that there is a RB left out there, after Fournette, that would realistically be a team's feature back??


Teams that still have a GLARING need at RB
PITT
ATL
MIA
NYJ
And MAYBE SF..debatable if Mostert/Wilson showed enough...and Shanny collects RB's like they're Hummels
Plus another 5-6 teams that could use a good compliment to be part of a committee, or lead one.
With only Fournette as a realistic, reliable option as a feature back left, things are certainly shaping up where the rookie RB's SHOULD find some good landing spots.
Standing on previous objections that Miami RB situation is not a GLARING need.
 

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Well again, in the playoffs he was. Prior to that he graded out as a non starter.
Can't deny that..still, something clicked, when it mattered most against some of the best teams in the league, and even assuming he is the guy from the regular season, which is more than fair to do, isn't he still the best of what's available?
 

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Can't deny that..still, something clicked, when it mattered most against some of the best teams in the league, and even assuming he is the guy from the regular season, which is more than fair to do, isn't he still the best of what's available?
Oh absolutely. But i guess if hes just the regular season guy, coupled with inuuries, attitude, and questionable effort throughout his career, draft a guy round 5+ and plug em in
 

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without knowing any of the details, I've been crazy busy the last week, so haven't read up on any of this yet

is Watson getting in trouble for getting the Robert Kraft special massage?
and he got it from 12-15 different women recently???


The suits allege Watson forced two women to perform oral sex, ejaculated in front of three women and on another, groped a woman’s vagina and buttocks and kissed another woman unprompted upon arrival for an appointment. Eleven of the 13 publicly available suits accuse Watson of inappropriately touching women with his penis. One alleges that at the end of a massage, after trying to direct a woman to touch his anus, Watson exposed himself and asked if she "did more" than professional work "for more money."

Of the 13 women suing Watson, only one says she has experience working with professional athletes. Their lawsuits’ complaints follow similar patterns: Watson typically first contacted the women via Instagram, where they market their business; he resisted wearing towels to cover his naked body; and repeatedly directed the women to focus on massaging his groin area and buttocks.
 

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From the lawsuit filing, per TotalProSports:

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Plaintiff told Watson that his behavior the last time was inappropriate. Plaintiff recalls that Watson apologized and told her something to the effect that he had never been rejected by a woman before.

Plaintiff informed Watson that she was a lesbian, so she was not interested in him and Watson agreed not to be inappropriate again. Plaintiff proceeded to give Watson the massage. Watson told Plaintiff that he only wanted his lower body massaged, so Plaintiff started off massaging the back of Watson’s quads.

Watson insisted that he wanted Plaintiff to “go higher,” closer to his butt cheeks. Plaintiff went higher, but Watson was still not satisfied, and insisted that Plaintiff come even higher Plaintiff was confused and did not understand. Plaintiff assumed that Watson wanted his back massaged, so she proceeded to massage his back.

Watson then grabbed Plaintiff’s hands and placed them on his buttocks and moved them around in a circular motion. Watson asked Plaintiff to use more oil and he then put Plaintiff’s hands inside his anus. Plaintiff was shocked and confused. Watson told Plaintiff “I can tell you are a lesbian because you are so good with your hands.”

Plaintiff became irritated and uncomfortable, but she did not want to get in trouble with her manager. Plaintiff told Watson to lay on his back, and that was when Watson became even more aggressive, and started commenting on Plaintiff’s body. Watson then pulled Plaintiff towards him and told her “I want to cum,” Plaintiff was confused and told Watson that she does not perform those kinds of services.

Watson responded saying that he receives that kind of treatment at the spas that at where he usually gets his massages. Watson said the other therapists make him “cum.” Watson continued harassing Plaintiff and asked her to kiss him and suck on his chest.

Watson asked if Plaintiff was really a lesbian, Plaintiff ignored his advances and told him to stop acting like a pervert. At this point, Plaintiff was embarrassed and humiliated, but she did not want to lose her job. Plaintiff just wanted Watson to leave, but she was scared.

She continued massaging his chest, Watson then exposed himself and told Plaintiff to massage his penis area. Plaintiff declined and covered his penis. Watson asked why Plaintiff did not want to touch his penis. He then asked her to perform oral sex on him and to pretend that he was a woman, since she had never been with a man before.

Watson became even more aggressive and forced Plaintiff’s mouth onto his penis. Watson told her “there is a first time for everything.” Plaintiff was so scared and distraught, she was sweating and nervous. She was alone at the spa and feared scared for her life. Watson then proceeded to wrap his legs around Plaintiff’s neck and told her to kiss him and to spit on his penis.

Plaintiff declined and he released her head. Watson went even further and began masturbating in front of Plaintiff and he ejaculated shortly after. Plaintiff was humiliated and horrified.
 

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If that stuff is true, he might be done, insane and disgusting

Never understood the whole paying for it thing, but to each their own
 

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I hadn't seen all that stuff...cheese n rice... if virtually any of that is true, he's done and likely spending time in jail
 
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