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eli manning.... TERRIBLE, YES

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If I needed a defense, I'd take the Jags over the "Giants SB caliber defense."
 

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"The Giants have a Super Bowl caliber defense."

Said Giants fans earlier this season.
^ This ^ is the most baffling part of the Giants season.

On offense... there was always the significant, realistic fear that O-line play would derail the operations. Which it has. Add in OBJ being hurt all season and now being down for the count... it's been a disaster.

But why is the defense so medicre? There's really no good reason it should be...

This team was 11-5 last season with a fine defense... Giants fans weren't crazy to talk that way about the defense; however, it's clear at this point that the wheels have come off.
 

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^ This ^ is the most baffling part of the Giants season.

On offense... there was always the significant, realistic fear that O-line play would derail the operations. Which it has. Add in OBJ being hurt all season and now being down for the count... it's been a disaster.

But why is the defense so medicre? There's really no good reason it should be...

This team was 11-5 last season with a fine defense... Giants fans weren't crazy to talk that way about the defense; however, it's clear at this point that the wheels have come off.

Giving up 27 points to the Chargers (who are known for choking late in games) is what really confirmed it for ne today.
 

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Lol.

Andy Dalton > Eli Manning.
Folks are piling on Eli... which is more than a little unfair.

Eli isn't perfect, never has been... but he hasn't been the problem at all. The O-line in front of him has sucked, OBJ has been hurt, what 4? WR's total went down to injury today...

... no QB is in a situation to succeed in this situation.
 

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^ This ^ is the most baffling part of the Giants season.

On offense... there was always the significant, realistic fear that O-line play would derail the operations. Which it has. Add in OBJ being hurt all season and now being down for the count... it's been a disaster.

But why is the defense so medicre? There's really no good reason it should be...

This team was 11-5 last season with a fine defense... Giants fans weren't crazy to talk that way about the defense; however, it's clear at this point that the wheels have come off.
just cause u got the players doesnt mean they can play The bills D under rex ryan was awful but had some great players Time for a new coach:suds:
 

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Folks are piling on Eli... which is more than a little unfair.

Eli isn't perfect, never has been... but he hasn't been the problem at all. The O-line in front of him has sucked, OBJ has been hurt, what 4? WR's total went down to injury today...

... no QB is in a situation to succeed in this situation.

Unfair?

Maybe you missed his game sealing INT with no pressure on him whatsoever.

Sorry, Eli doesn't get a pass. He's largely sucked his entire career, how many times has he led the league in turnovers again?

Dude please. Eli is hot garbage.
 

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just cause u got the players doesnt mean they can play The bills D under rex ryan was awful but had some great players Time for a new coach:suds:
True... but it was just last season that the Giants D was pretty damn good. So we know these guys can do it.

In theory.
 

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Unfair?

Maybe you missed his game sealing INT with no pressure on him whatsoever.

Sorry, Eli doesn't get a pass. He's largely sucked his entire career, how many times has he led the league in turnovers again?

Dude please. Eli is hot garbage.
It's was 4th and long, and the Giants were down to 1 healthy WR.

Let me guess... none of that matters and 'Eli Suckz!!!'?
 

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I've been saying this for years. Why are Giants fans only now coming to this realization?
 

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It's was 4th and long, and the Giants were down to 1 healthy WR.

Let me guess... none of that matters and 'Eli Suckz!!!'?

He threw an INT with NO pressure. That's on him, period.

You guys take homerism to a whole new level.
 

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I've been saying this for years. Why are Giants fans only now coming to this realization?
Maybe it the rings?

1105_EliGatorade.jpg
 

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He threw an INT with NO pressure. That's on him, period.

You guys take homerism to a whole new level.
Meh.

I don't mind a little back and forth, and I further don't mind taking a few lumps (I'm here, ain't I?)... but you aren't bringing a lot of intelligent banter to this conversation.
 

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Meh.

I don't mind a little back and forth, and I further don't mind taking a few lumps (I'm here, ain't I?)... but you aren't bringing a lot of intelligent banter to this conversation.

No need to. You haven't offered anything but flimsy excuses for poor play on Eli's part.
 

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The top 3 WR's on the roster being hurt... and the Giants only fielding 1 healthy WR at the time...

... these are "flimsy excuses"?

Sure, fine, whatever.
 

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The top 3 WR's on the roster being hurt... and the Giants only fielding 1 healthy WR at the time...

... these are "flimsy excuses"?

Sure, fine, whatever.

Doesn't hold any water whatsoever.

No matter WHO is in at WR.......ELI threw an INT. That's not the WRs fault, that's HIS.

Just flimsy, lame excuses for ELI'S POOR PLAY. And he's been like this for the vast majority of his career.
 
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