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skinz2winz

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No QB
No McKissic
No Logan Thomas
Have we won a game without Scherff in the lineup?
No Samuel
No Fuller
No Curl
Jackson and Collins left the game
No Roullier
No Chase
No Schweitzer

and it was a game late in the 4th. What does this fanbase want Rivera, JDR, and Scot to do?
Fix the issues that plague you when you lose. That's a start.
 

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1. Trade for Rodgers

2. Trade for Russ

3. Sign Carr
 

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I think to some extent what skinz says is valid. Let's look at 2021 only

Cosmi, Bates and Cheeseman - good picks
St. Juste, Davis, Brown and Forrest - okay or less

FAs
Samuels - maybe he works out next year but this year was a bust
Jackson - at best 50/50

Leno and Flowers - good additions

No offense to your philosophy but how do the WTF get 8-10 impact players?
 

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Hey @skinz2winz expand on that for me if you can. I'm really not being an ass. I'm interested in your point of view.
Surface stuff but why is there repetitive communication issues after 15 weeks of football? Why is it that guys are "free Lancing" and not just doing your job like your coached up? Why are we not prepared to make adjustments when our opponent takes something away we do well?
Field stuff but why do we never seem to game plan defensively against TE's? Whether it's chipping a TE off the LOS or bracketing or hell, just paying attention to the TE on each play would help. Why do we frequently over pursue on miss direction plays? Why do we not run more up tempo or hurry up offense?
Point is when we lose, things stick out like a sore thumb. Like an abundance of penalties or lack of run game or a stagnant defense. So identify the issue, come up with a solution to fix it, then implement the fix. Don't just talk about and move on because you will be talking about it later in week 15.
 

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Surface stuff but why is there repetitive communication issues after 15 weeks of football? Why is it that guys are "free Lancing" and not just doing your job like your coached up? Why are we not prepared to make adjustments when our opponent takes something away we do well?
Field stuff but why do we never seem to game plan defensively against TE's? Whether it's chipping a TE off the LOS or bracketing or hell, just paying attention to the TE on each play would help. Why do we frequently over pursue on miss direction plays? Why do we not run more up tempo or hurry up offense?
Point is when we lose, things stick out like a sore thumb. Like an abundance of penalties or lack of run game or a stagnant defense. So identify the issue, come up with a solution to fix it, then implement the fix. Don't just talk about and move on because you will be talking about it later in week 15.
Talent and culture ... this team has been short on both for 20+ years. Players come here and feel like they can get away with freelancing .... talent has been less than desired. They do not retain enough of the right players. The beast rots from the head down.
 

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Good post. I'll do my best.

Free lancing is definitely an issue. (Sweat, Chase, Landon) I'll give you that.

The Eagles took away the run, but with no Scherff we can't run and with an emergency QB we can't pass.

As far as the TE. Goedert is a monster and if Curl is in the lineup last night I think he picks off that last pass to him that he outjumped Reaves on. TE have killed us for years.

To your point Collins does overpursue.

To your point again. I would love to see more up tempo, no huddle. I would love to see a little zone read with Heinicke once he gets back. He's very capable of freezing the D the way Hurts does and RG3 did.

I could be wrong, but a few weeks ago I heard someone say we were one of the least penalized teams. Maybe that has changed.

Appreciate you breaking that down for me @skinz2winz
 

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Good post. I'll do my best.

Free lancing is definitely an issue. (Sweat, Chase, Landon) I'll give you that.

The Eagles took away the run, but with no Scherff we can't run and with an emergency QB we can't pass.

As far as the TE. Goedert is a monster and if Curl is in the lineup last night I think he picks off that last pass to him that he outjumped Reaves on. TE have killed us for years.

To your point Collins does overpursue.

To your point again. I would love to see more up tempo, no huddle. I would love to see a little zone read with Heinicke once he gets back. He's very capable of freezing the D the way Hurts does and RG3 did.

I could be wrong, but a few weeks ago I heard someone say we were one of the least penalized teams. Maybe that has changed.

Appreciate you breaking that down for me @skinz2winz
To add, why do we not use Tmac like the 9'ers use Deebo? Get him his touches.
 

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Dont follow college football, but hamstringing your team for a few years of aaron rodgers or russell wilson is a bad idea, and watson might go to jail (or might not).

Draft a qb to start or learn for a year or two.

Is Carr worth $140? What has he done?
 

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Good post. I'll do my best.

Free lancing is definitely an issue. (Sweat, Chase, Landon) I'll give you that.

The Eagles took away the run, but with no Scherff we can't run and with an emergency QB we can't pass.

As far as the TE. Goedert is a monster and if Curl is in the lineup last night I think he picks off that last pass to him that he outjumped Reaves on. TE have killed us for years.

To your point Collins does overpursue.

To your point again. I would love to see more up tempo, no huddle. I would love to see a little zone read with Heinicke once he gets back. He's very capable of freezing the D the way Hurts does and RG3 did.

I could be wrong, but a few weeks ago I heard someone say we were one of the least penalized teams. Maybe that has changed.

Appreciate you breaking that down for me @skinz2winz
Free lancing is an issue. I hope it is happening because Snyder is an enabler and not because the RR or JDR won't sit them if need be.

We were certainly short on the OLine but Flowers who I love even he did not look like himself. BU QB with 4 days practice allowed the Eagle defense to overload the box.

Missing Curl hurt, Reaves was there on many plays, he just didn't make the play.

Collins is a good blitzer and run defender. He was out of position on several flats passes. Lucky for the WTF Goedert dropped one, it hit his foot and bounced right into a trailing Collins hand. I like what he has done lately.

I like Heinicke but I also realize he is limited which also limits the offense. I would also like to see him run some RPO stuff. The team runs up tempo at times. You can't do it with GG.

I agree with skinz on many things but not about coaching. The WTF don't have the best but I still feel like Snyder interferes ... we just don't hear about it.

I don't have a warm feeling for any QB coming out. If left up to me (at this point) I draft Corral because he can make the throws, he can run the ball but his is not big so he will have to get down. I would also be okay with keeping TH for a year or two while Corral learns.

Not a big Jimmy G fan but for a 2nd as a bridge to the next QB might not be so bad. I do not believe that happens because Snyder won't trade with Kyle.
 

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Free lancing is an issue. I hope it is happening because Snyder is an enabler and not because the RR or JDR won't sit them if need be.

We were certainly short on the OLine but Flowers who I love even he did not look like himself. BU QB with 4 days practice allowed the Eagle defense to overload the box.

Missing Curl hurt, Reaves was there on many plays, he just didn't make the play.

Collins is a good blitzer and run defender. He was out of position on several flats passes. Lucky for the WTF Goedert dropped one, it hit his foot and bounced right into a trailing Collins hand. I like what he has done lately.

I like Heinicke but I also realize he is limited which also limits the offense. I would also like to see him run some RPO stuff. The team runs up tempo at times. You can't do it with GG.

I agree with skinz on many things but not about coaching. The WTF don't have the best but I still feel like Snyder interferes ... we just don't hear about it.

I don't have a warm feeling for any QB coming out. If left up to me (at this point) I draft Corral because he can make the throws, he can run the ball but his is not big so he will have to get down. I would also be okay with keeping TH for a year or two while Corral learns.

Not a big Jimmy G fan but for a 2nd as a bridge to the next QB might not be so bad. I do not believe that happens because Snyder won't trade with Kyle.
At this point who do you bench Collins for? I'm riding with you on Corral, because you called Jones. As for Jimmy G, I'd rather take a flier on Kenny or Matt.
 

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At this point who do you bench Collins for? I'm riding with you on Corral, because you called Jones. As for Jimmy G, I'd rather take a flier on Kenny or Matt.
I don't bench Collin's, he bitched about the change but he has exceled and I think he likes that. Athletes have arrogance, he is no different. He still thinks he can play SS or FS but JDR has him in the right spot now and I think he likes the success.

I could be way wrong on the QBs coming out. Willis has a great arm and can run. What I look for is guys who can make decisions quickly. Being able to run in this day and age is part of the game. Three years ago I was singing a different story.
 

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At this point who do you bench Collins for? I'm riding with you on Corral, because you called Jones. As for Jimmy G, I'd rather take a flier on Kenny or Matt.
Jones is not a finished product ... he has required skills and proper coaching.

There are a lot of QBs from last year that it is too early to call.
 

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I don't bench Collin's, he bitched about the change but he has exceled and I think he likes that. Athletes have arrogance, he is no different. He still thinks he can play SS or FS but JDR has him in the right spot now and I think he likes the success.

I could be way wrong on the QBs coming out. Willis has a great arm and can run. What I look for is guys who can make decisions quickly. Being able to run in this day and age is part of the game. Three years ago I was singing a different story.
I mentioned Collins because I felt like the coaches were getting blamed for his undisciplined play at times.

I just didn't see how that fell at the feet of JDR. So when I read you and skinz2winz talk about making adjustments, I figured you wanted JDR to pull him off the field.

Imo, yes, he's a sucker for play action but he did have a pick6 last week, he was trailing, had a fumble recovery and I still thinkn he's 2nd in TFLs.

As for QBs. It really is a flip of the coin.
 

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JImmy G might not be done in SF
Maybe however, it's Trey Lance time next season and I wouldn't expect JG to want to sit the bench for a year behind him. I believe if Lance is tapped to start which he likely will, they give Garrapolo the opportunity to seek a trade to a team to become a starter.
 
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