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That's a bargain compared to pass rusher and OT. This is exactly why you target expensive positions in the draft in a cap world, so you don't have to sign players on their 2nd/3rd contracts at those prices. But, these team, is afraid to let a player go so that point is moot.
In most cases they do seem to give out new contracts. Cowboys get fooled when player does well during contract year. Then player signs big contract and proceeds to suck. The final contracts given to Romo and Dez were a waste. It can be argued that Zeke and Jaylons production has fallen off a cliff. Should have let Zeke holdout, and If they knew Zeke was going to go to Cabo they should have drafted Ramsey instead. Zekes contract is the worst contract on the team. Zeke sucked in 2020. Byron Jones is one of the few players they did not resign.
 

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was watching TV. if what they say is correct on CBs. I agree with @PDay8810.
They say Surtain might be the best overall CB but Horn is the best press corner. Lord knows we could use a press corner instead of playing 15 yds back on 3rd & 5. If we go CB with our 1st pick I hope it is Horn.
 

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was watching TV. if what they say is correct on CBs. I agree with @PDay8810.
They say Surtain might be the best overall CB but Horn is the best press corner. Lord knows we could use a press corner instead of playing 15 yds back on 3rd & 5. If we go CB with our 1st pick I hope it is Horn.
I won't be pissed if they select Surtain, but I most certainly think Horn is the better corner.

I was listening to Michael Lombardi on the radio the other day and he said Quinn plays 80% zone and asked why would Dallas select a corner at 10 if they continue this ratio of zone...he said Dallas would be better served to select a zone corner in round 3. Thing is, Horn is a special football player and those don't grow on trees. I respectfully disagree, I like the idea of having an alpha playing in our dbackfield.
 

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If Quinn is more comfortable playing predominantly zone then we need to do everything in our power to improve our pass rush. Got decent production out of Gregory, but the fact of the matter is he isn't reliable. Maybe a DE is the play for us in the first round. Otherwise, if we want a long zone CB we can draft Farley. Just hope he would come with a solid trade back.
 

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I won't be pissed if they select Surtain, but I most certainly think Horn is the better corner.

I was listening to Michael Lombardi on the radio the other day and he said Quinn plays 80% zone and asked why would Dallas select a corner at 10 if they continue this ratio of zone...he said Dallas would be better served to select a zone corner in round 3. Thing is, Horn is a special football player and those don't grow on trees. I respectfully disagree, I like the idea of having an alpha playing in our dbackfield.
I like Horn. Even before the good 40 time. Just like his attitude and ability. He may not be the BPA at 10 though. Even if he isn't I dont view him like I did Taco. Never liked the Taco pick. He was dropping down draft boards like a rock heading into that draft. Horn is rising. He would be a welcome addition. I still think he is a legit to 15 pick . Something tells me Pitts will be the pick if he happens to fall or even Slater . No way Jerry passes on a glamour pick like Pitts and he would pick him out from under the Giants and Eagles. He is still haunted by passing on Moss
 

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Something tells me Pitts will be the pick if he happens to fall or even Slater
I can see Slater, and like Surtain, I won't be pissed if that's what Dallas does. Slater is a rock solid pick and seems to have a desire to be one of the best.

Don't see Pitts on the board at 10....way to much hype for that to happen. I think Miami runs to the podium if Pitts is there at 6.
 

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They might want to update their list. Half of these picks won't be this low.

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47.Tommy Togiai
DT Ohio State
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99.Walker Little
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138.Monty Rice
LB Georgia

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If Quinn is more comfortable playing predominantly zone then we need to do everything in our power to improve our pass rush. Got decent production out of Gregory, but the fact of the matter is he isn't reliable. Maybe a DE is the play for us in the first round. Otherwise, if we want a long zone CB we can draft Farley. Just hope he would come with a solid trade back.
You always, always take the potential superstar pass rushing DE if there is one. But who is that this year? That is why I think we pass on a pass rusher. I just don't see any of them worth the pick. If the team thinks one is I'm all for it.

I've said before my favorite DL in this draft is Barmore. I think he is the 3 Tech we have needed in what seems like forever and would take him at 10 because he is disruptive against both the pass and run and that is rare, but he doesn't seem to be on ANY teams radar from what you hear (maybe because he disappeared at times which is a concern) so it doesn't seem like the NFL agrees with my thoughts, so the odds of him are likely pretty low. The Miami and Michigan DEs don't seem like top 10 players to me, not even sure top 20. Parsons could be that guy from a blitzing perspective and I'd love him as the pick. He is a legit 3 down LB who can sit in a zone in the middle of the field as good as anyone or rush the passer but that's a little different than a DE coming at the QB every play.

The guy I am totally changing my tune on is Pitts. I watched a lot of him over the last week or so when the hype hit a crazy level and this kid does look special. I think the 4 best players in the draft are Lawrence, Chase, Sewell and Pitts. I doubt any of them fall but would take any of them even though they don't help our shit defense. I wish we had the #8 pick. If 5 QBs go right away whomever is picking 8 gets one of these guys
 

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You always, always take the potential superstar pass rushing DE if there is one. But who is that this year? That is why I think we pass on a pass rusher. I just don't see any of them worth the pick. If the team thinks one is I'm all for it.

I've said before my favorite DL in this draft is Barmore. I think he is the 3 Tech we have needed in what seems like forever and would take him at 10 because he is disruptive against both the pass and run and that is rare, but he doesn't seem to be on ANY teams radar from what you hear (maybe because he disappeared at times which is a concern) so it doesn't seem like the NFL agrees with my thoughts, so the odds of him are likely pretty low. The Miami and Michigan DEs don't seem like top 10 players to me, not even sure top 20. Parsons could be that guy from a blitzing perspective and I'd love him as the pick. He is a legit 3 down LB who can sit in a zone in the middle of the field as good as anyone or rush the passer but that's a little different than a DE coming at the QB every play.

The guy I am totally changing my tune on is Pitts. I watched a lot of him over the last week or so when the hype hit a crazy level and this kid does look special. I think the 4 best players in the draft are Lawrence, Chase, Sewell and Pitts. I doubt any of them fall but would take any of them even though they don't help our shit defense. I wish we had the #8 pick. If 5 QBs go right away whomever is picking 8 gets one of these guys
I don't disagree that Barmore wouldn't be a great pick. But I have trouble putting him next to Gallimore as I see him also being a 3 tech and he would have trouble holding the point as a nose. Try. Hill is of this same ilk. And we have yet to bring in a nose.
I think there are 3 elite pass rushers this year. Rousseau, Paye and Phillips. All 3 are weakside rushers and would fit our need to strengthen our team. Only thing holding Phillips back from being in the top 15 is the injury history and subsequent "retirement" prior to transferring to Miami this past year. I don't feel like he fell out of love for the game so much as he was sick of his body being broken. After it healed and his head cleared, he was lights out this past year. Paye reminds me of Mack, not quite as stout and not a slam dunk, but the balance, the quickness and power are all there. 6'2.5" between 260-270. I have no issues with his size. Rousseau sat out this year. He looks like another Randy Gregory, not quite as shifty but is fluid. If he gained a little more weight/strength I would say he reminds me of JPP. Not sure if guys that sat out 2020 will drop due to it, but he came into the season as the favorite but I think Paye passed him, at least he did for me.
I get the Pitts love, he looks like a rockstar TE. But how many times have we seen that transition to pro level for a "receiving TE" be made smoothly? He doesn't play inline very well and due to that, you will likely have to use him as a gadget for the first year. Then you are comparing him vs other gadget players and is he worth that premium price over a guy like RonDale Moore-Purdue? In year 3 Pitts will be a force no doubt about it.
 

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I don't disagree that Barmore wouldn't be a great pick. But I have trouble putting him next to Gallimore as I see him also being a 3 tech and he would have trouble holding the point as a nose. Try. Hill is of this same ilk. And we have yet to bring in a nose.
I think there are 3 elite pass rushers this year. Rousseau, Paye and Phillips. All 3 are weakside rushers and would fit our need to strengthen our team. Only thing holding Phillips back from being in the top 15 is the injury history and subsequent "retirement" prior to transferring to Miami this past year. I don't feel like he fell out of love for the game so much as he was sick of his body being broken. After it healed and his head cleared, he was lights out this past year. Paye reminds me of Mack, not quite as stout and not a slam dunk, but the balance, the quickness and power are all there. 6'2.5" between 260-270. I have no issues with his size. Rousseau sat out this year. He looks like another Randy Gregory, not quite as shifty but is fluid. If he gained a little more weight/strength I would say he reminds me of JPP. Not sure if guys that sat out 2020 will drop due to it, but he came into the season as the favorite but I think Paye passed him, at least he did for me.
I get the Pitts love, he looks like a rockstar TE. But how many times have we seen that transition to pro level for a "receiving TE" be made smoothly? He doesn't play inline very well and due to that, you will likely have to use him as a gadget for the first year. Then you are comparing him vs other gadget players and is he worth that premium price over a guy like RonDale Moore-Purdue? In year 3 Pitts will be a force no doubt about it.
Agree with the majority. Definitely need a better 1 whatever else we do. Lord knows our 2 LBs that were supposed to be stars need someone to keep blockers off of them as much as possible. I like the Urban signing to help out with the run but he's a rotation guy and not a big space eater. Barmore to me will be better than Gallimore and IMO much better. I like Gallimore and think he can be a solid starter but not sure he'd ever a difference maker (no guarantee Barmore would either of course) but I thought he showed a lot of potential last year and am hoping he keeps getting better. When you go nickel you sit all but the superstar one techs so both can play. Hill is a waste IMO. Always on the ground, knocked to the 2nd or 3rd level or spinning around like a top. Plus we don't know what Quinn will do with this group but we've always rotated our DL and most everyone does now so bodies help.

On DEs I'm only going off of my opinion of them but if the team likes one of them enough then I'm all in with a pass rusher at 10. I just don't see that level of talent myself. Lastly on Pitts, a lot of these elite TEs today are more a slot receiver anyway and if he comes out in short yardage, who cares. If he is who a lot of people think he is, he is the proverbial mismatch. LBs or even safeties just can't run with him and he'll absolutely manhandle CBs. The only issue with Dallas taking him is we already have 3 WRs we want to play most downs and decent TEs. The plus side of this is we seem to have no use for a FB anyway so a rotation between our 3 TEs and 3 WRs wouldn't be a problem or even better it puts us in a position to trade a WR which can directly help our defense.
 

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I can see Slater, and like Surtain, I won't be pissed if that's what Dallas does. Slater is a rock solid pick and seems to have a desire to be one of the best.

Don't see Pitts on the board at 10....way to much hype for that to happen. I think Miami runs to the podium if Pitts is there at 6.
Yes, I think it's gonna be really hard to screw up #10 for Dallas. It sounds like 4 or even 5 QB's could go top 10. That's just pushing good players to us. Also looks like at least 2 WR's will be off the board. So between the Surtain, Horn, Pitts and the top 2 OT's...there is gonna be an impact starter waiting for us one way or another
 

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I just dont see an elite pass rusher in this draft. I dont see a guy like Aaron Donald or Chase Young. Now I am not against trading up in the 2nd round if a good defensive lineman drops .
 

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The more I look at this the more I'm good with OT at 10
Sooooooooo many good defensive players to be had in rounds 2,3, & 4
Yep, OT looks like a long term fix, and with Smith and Collins health issues in question, could easily be a 2021 fix.
 

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Yes, I think it's gonna be really hard to screw up #10 for Dallas. It sounds like 4 or even 5 QB's could go top 10. That's just pushing good players to us. Also looks like at least 2 WR's will be off the board. So between the Surtain, Horn, Pitts and the top 2 OT's...there is gonna be an impact starter waiting for us one way or another

The more I look at this the more I'm good with OT at 10
Sooooooooo many good defensive players to be had in rounds 2,3, & 4
It would be crazy if Sewell somehow fell to 10. Slater is also damn good. .I fully believe games are won up front I am good with either at 10. These two would be very "safe" picks and long term starters. We cant have a repeat of Terrance Steele and Knight both starting at OT.
 

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Don't think there is any way the Bengals pass on an OT. They likely pick Sewell but if either top OT makes it to 10, I would sure pull the trigger. Don't have any idea why the Jones' bunch won't upgrade safety and corner in FA and no, I don't mean what they have done so far with Neal possibly switching to LB and a guy coming off a major achilles injury.
 

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It would be crazy if Sewell somehow fell to 10. Slater is also damn good. .I fully believe games are won up front I am good with either at 10. These two would be very "safe" picks and long term starters. We cant have a repeat of Terrance Steele and Knight both starting at OT.
Sewell is awesome but Slater is a great player too. Never a mistake to build the OL
 

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It would be crazy if Sewell somehow fell to 10. Slater is also damn good. .I fully believe games are won up front I am good with either at 10. These two would be very "safe" picks and long term starters. We cant have a repeat of Terrance Steele and Knight both starting at OT.
I've been wrong plenty in the padt but I prefer Slater of the two. Of course I won't cry if it's Sewell.
 

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I won't be pissed if they select Surtain, but I most certainly think Horn is the better corner.

I was listening to Michael Lombardi on the radio the other day and he said Quinn plays 80% zone and asked why would Dallas select a corner at 10 if they continue this ratio of zone...he said Dallas would be better served to select a zone corner in round 3. Thing is, Horn is a special football player and those don't grow on trees. I respectfully disagree, I like the idea of having an alpha playing in our dbackfield.
i won't be pissed if they get one of them
 

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I like the trade from #10 + 2022 3rd to NE for 15 & 46

15. either Surtain or Horn

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46. Cisco or Holland S

75. McNeil DL1T

99. Jackson OC

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after that BAP at 138, 179, 192, 227 & 238
 
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