Draft 2019

[deep9er]

We're all elated to draft Bosa, but isn't the key player still Dee Ford? He's slated for the all important LEO spot, so he has to be the key. I would expect Dee Ford to get the most sacks/pressures.

Would they switch sides on occassion? Not throughout the entire game, but on occassion to mix it up? Mix it up depending on the opposing OT's?

 

[deep9er]

I mean it isn't a position of need yet but will be soon. The guy has the talent so take the best player.

As i'm reading more articles about who's left on the board, can't help think the BPA will end up a WR? Maybe CB but it does seem like WR with AJ Brown and Deebo Samuel still there?

 

[deep9er]

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if the choice came down to Adderly or Greedy, take Greedy. Top CB's are more difficult to obtain, much more difficult IMO.

Again, we have to look at this over Greedy's career, not this season.

 

[Ricky Roma]

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if the choice came down to Adderly or Greedy, take Greedy. Top CB's are more difficult to obtain, much more difficult IMO.

Again, we have to look at this over Greedy's career, not this season.

Depends. All things being equal, the single high safety is the most important position in this scheme's secondary. I wouldn't be opposed to getting Greedy, but if Adderly is his equal (I don't know) then I would take him to play FS.

 

[poewelch84]

Depends. All things being equal, the single high safety is the most important position in this scheme's secondary. I wouldn't be opposed to getting Greedy, but if Adderly is his equal (I don't know) then I would take him to play FS.

Trade back into the 2nd round and get both

 

[Ricky Roma]

Trade back into the 2nd round and get both

I'm fine with that, but I think they also gotta get a high end type of guard who can transition to tackle in the future. I know it's not Kyle's style to do so, however. The Shanahan's just don't seem to value the guard position.

 

[deep9er]

Trade back into the 2nd round and get both

i don't think we could get both after trading down? Greedy may even be drafted before our pick?

Not opposed to a small trade down, but then i wouldn't expect both of these guys.

 

[deep9er]

Depends. All things being equal, the single high safety is the most important position in this scheme's secondary. I wouldn't be opposed to getting Greedy, but if Adderly is his equal (I don't know) then I would take him to play FS.

But which position is harder to obtain, a quality FS or a quality CB?

Since it is Round 2, we're no likely getting All-Pros, and is why i used "quality".

 

[Ricky Roma]

Jets are desperate to move up into the high end of the 2nd round....49ers are taking calls per NFLN Ian Rapoport.

I'd only consider it if they cough up something major, like a first next year. Even then....I'd probably turn it away given the talent left.

 

[Ricky Roma]

But which position is harder to obtain, a quality FS or a quality CB?

Since it is Round 2, we're no likely getting All-Pros, and is why i used "quality".

Which is why I said 'all things being equal.' If you view Greedy and Adderly equal, you take Adderly based on position and its importance.

 

[poewelch84]

i don't think we could get both after trading down? Greedy may even be drafted before our pick?

Not opposed to a small trade down, but then i wouldn't expect both of these guys.

I doubt it as well but who knows how things play out if they don't pick in the 3rd but get both Greedy and Adderly in the process I'm not sure I'll complain much about that.

 

[deep9er]

Which is why I said 'all things being equal.' If you view Greedy and Adderly equal, you take Adderly based on position and its importance.

"all things being equal" isn't the same thing as harder to obtain. "all things being equal" is value in the draft. Harder to obtain is more than just the draft.

Anyway, not a big deal, you'd take Adderley and i'd take Greedy. We'll see shortly if Greedy is even available to pick?

 

[Ricky Roma]

"all things being equal" isn't the same thing as harder to obtain. "all things being equal" is value in the draft. Harder to obtain is more than just the draft.

Anyway, not a big deal, you'd take Adderley and i'd take Greedy. We'll see shortly if Greedy is even available to pick?

I don't have any scientific data that states one position is harder to find than the other. All I know is, Adderly plays a more important position in the current scheme, and the biggest liability in the secondary is Jimmy Ward.

 

[deep9er]

Ask 5: Is safety spot closing in on cornerback in draft value?

To address the "more important position", this article has arguments for both sides, ending slightly in favor of CB's.

But do read the Conclusion where it answers 'which is harder to find'......"That being said, it's difficult to find big, athletic cover cornerbacks. The lack of supply at the position keeps the demand very high."

 

[poewelch84]

Jets are desperate to move up into the high end of the 2nd round....49ers are taking calls per NFLN Ian Rapoport.

I'd only consider it if they cough up something major, like a first next year. Even then....I'd probably turn it away given the talent left.

Considering they don't have a 2nd round pick I would say no thanks

 

[Groo]

DEEBO

 

[Ricky Roma]

A letdown.....but hopefully that makes Kyle happy, and we can get on with defense.

 

[deep9er]

A letdown.....but hopefully that makes Kyle happy, and we can get on with defense.

Letdown? Because he isn't 6'-3"

We needed a good Flanker and most (not all) of what i've read looks good. He should help all over the field but more notably in the RZ.

No secret we have STRUGGLED in the red zone and i've read he DOMINATED this part at the Senior Bowl. We don't have problems moving between the 20's, even with Mullins, but getting help at the RZ is huge.

 

[poewelch84]

The kid can play I would have liked to see them trade back and get him

 

[Ricky Roma]

Letdown? Because he isn't 6'-3"

We needed a good Flanker and most (not all) of what i've read looks good. He should help all over the field but more notably in the RZ.

No secret we have STRUGGLED in the red zone and i've read he DOMINATED this part at the Senior Bowl. We don't have problems moving between the 20's, even with Mullins, but getting help at the RZ is huge.

A letdown, because I don't want WR at this point.