Down on the Farm (2015)

[calsnowskier]

I havent seen him play, so everything I say is based on interviews and reports that I have read...

Defensively, I have heard he is solid, but I dont think that is his calling card. While he is playing SS right now, and he may have the potential to stay there as a middle-of-the-pack defensive SS at the MLB level, I would not be surprised to see him move to 2B or 3B. He is not much of a power hitter, so I doubt RF or LF is in his future, and he really is not a speedster, so I doubt CF will work for him either.

It is really too early to put real expectations on his bat, outside of saying that he has one, and this it will likely be his ticket to the Bigs. I think he will potentially be a 15-25 HR guy, but his real power will be in the gaps, like most Giants hitting prospects. I can see him being very similar to Posey, though maybe a notch or two below.

What has really caught my attention about him, though, is the head on his shoulders. He was the captain of his 18 and under all-star team that won the World Championship the year before he was drafted. He looks like a baby, but he reportedly is a very powerful personality in the clubhouse. This is apparently what REALLY caught the Giants attention when they (over) drafted him in the first round out of high school.

Basically, I see him as Posey at 2B. Rough estimate, of course, but that is the best comp that I can come up with from what I have heard/read on him.

 

[SFGRTB]

Can any of you fill me in on Arroyo's potential? I saw Cal talk about him earlier in this page and the way he sounds to me is very similar to the hype for Hanley Ramirez when he was a prospect for BOS. Anyone want to give me a scouting report/projection based on what you know/seen of the guy, including best guesses regarding what we do with him when he's really to get his cuppo. Is he primarily a middle INF or does he have defensive chops to also play in the OF?

He's a gap to gap hitter, aggressive in the strikezone, and makes a ton of contact. Compact swing with a slight leg kick, great bat speed, still prone to getting fooled. He's strong enough to hit 20+ homers, but that's not his game. He's a line-drive hitter and is at his best when he stays within himself, where he could easily be a .300 hitter with a ton of doubles and +10 homers if he pans out. Not a speed guy, but runs well (like Crawford, not as fast as Duffy/Panik).

Defensively he has good footwork, soft hands and a good enough arm to play the right side. He's an infielder all the way, can stick at SS, but could be forced to 2B/3B.

A best-case-scenario comparison IMO is Michael Young.

As for his intangibles, most accounts paint him as a leader, hard worker and a fantastic teammate. I've heard Posey-like, goes about his business and leads by example.

He hasn't been immune to injuries so far in his career, so that is something to look out for.

ETA: 2018 could be a full-time player, but if he keeps hitting like this, the Giants have been known to reward players. Could see a cuppo in late, late 2016. If he goes through a position change, delays things a bit.

 

[SFGRTB]

For your leisure:

Double Play Podcast: Giants prospect Christian Arroyo | KNBR-AM

A brief KNBR interview with Christian Arroyo. It starts around the 39 minute mark.

 

[Stokes1931]

From Wrenzie Wrenzie Blogs Giants: Scouting Reports for 2015 Giants Prospects Part 1: Arroyo, Beede, Mejia

Christian Arroyo SS (A+)
6'1" 180 lbs. R/R Video: Credits to MLB.com and David Lee
The Giants are as unpredictable as anyone in terms of the MLB Draft, proven in 2013 with the surprise selection of Christian Arroyo. Arroyo's body is a big but compact one with more lean than buff in his frame. He got a slightly open stance at the plate with a pretty wide stance but having a good balance on the batter's box. There are two videos because there are different versions regarding his leg kick. The one on the MLB.com is similar to Buster Posey's leg kick and the David Lee video is what DrB's describing on his Down on the Farm article on May 30, a slight leg lift but nonetheless, he creates little but noticeable load on his back leg on his leg kick. The bat head stays close to his head on his leg kick and he got lightning-quick wrists and impressive eye-hand coordination, generating a short, compact swing but stays direct to the ball, generating a close to plus hit tool. His follow-through allows him to get out of the box as quickly as possible, similar to former Ranger Michael Young, a pretty good comparison to Arroyo's tools overall.

Arroyo's frame can still put in a little more muscle and he can hit up to 15 homers in the future. But I am not expecting him to reach that since it's not his game. His game is to get base hits and get on base and he knows it personally so I am expecting more doubles and less homers in the future. He might be a little too aggressive on the box, generating little walks but many strikeouts which limits his hit tool to above-average for now. He possesses surprising quickness but he's overall speed is just average and average athleticism. He got the arm to play at shortstop but he'll switch positions either to second or third base but he got a good glove . He needs to be more patient and selective at the plate to achieve his plus hit potential but he possesses a plus-plus 6th tool, his overall intelligence that will help him to achieve his potential as a good position player for the Giants in the future.
My Grades: Hit 55+ | Power 50 | Speed 45 | Arm 50 | Field 45+
Ceiling: Possible All-Star player Floor: Bench player ETA: Sept. 2017/2018

 

[Stokes1931]

San Francisco Giants welcome Christian Arroyo to spring training

Christian Arroyo, right-handed infielder beginning his third professional baseball season, is in the San Francisco Giants spring training camp, having been invited along with 21 other players, to work out with the team in the desert. A shortstop in his first two pro seasons, Arroyo will attempt to demonstrate exactly why he was selected in the first round of Major League Baseball’s 2013 draft, surprising the experts.

Out of Hernando High School in Brooksville, Florida, Arroyo indicated early on that he could compete, by being named MVP of the 18U World Baseball Championship, played in Seoul, Korea, in 2012, at which time the United States captured the Gold Medal. Arroyo played shortstop, batting .387, and was among the tournament’s leaders with 11 RBIs. He started all of his team’s thirteen games at shortstop, making two errors, and turning six double plays on 67 fielding chances.

The five-eleven, 180-pound first round selection, surprised the experts because he does not have credentials that leap out as being those of a premier ballplayer. He does not hit for power, he does not have abundant speed, and his defense, at first glance, seems to be average, at best. So one would naturally expect that this prospect has some of the intangibles that do not show up on paper.

In commenting on Arroyo’s first-round selection, Giants vice president of scouting and international operations, John Barr, said the team had been following Arroyo since early 2012, and watched him as he was named MVP of the !8U World Baseball Championship. He was the highest player on the Giants’ board when the 25th pick rolled around the following year.


Barr described Arroyo as versatile enough to play other positions in the infield besides shortstop, which is good because more than one scouting report has mentioned arm strength as a reason to move him to second base. Arroyo has talked about growing up with Derek Jeter as his favorite player, which helps explain why he plays short; like Jeter, Arroyo is also well spoken.

When asked what he knew about the team that had just drafted him, Arroyo said that he had followed Buster Posey (fellow Southerner born in Georgia) and that he watched the Giants win the title the previous fall [2012].

Let’s take a glimpse at his two seasons of professional play:

2013: AZL Giants/Arizona League/Rookie/45 G/209 PA/184 AB/47 R/60 H/18 2B/5 3B/2 HR/39 RBI/3 SB/2 CS/19 BB/32 SO/.326 BA/.388 OBP/.511 SLG/.898 OPS/ 94 TB/GDP 1/HBP 2/SH 0/SF 4/IBB 1

2014: Salem-Keizer Volcanoes/Northwest League/Level A-/58 G/267 PA/243 AB/39 R/81 H/14 2B/2 3B/5 HR/48 RBI/6 SB/1 CS/18 BB/31 SO/.333 BA/.378 OBP/.469 SLG/.847 OPS/ 114 TB/GDP 3/HBP 2/SH 0/SF 4/IBB 1

2014: Augusta GreenJackets/South Atlanta League/Level A/31 G/125 PA/118 AB/10 R/24 H/3 2B/1 3B/1 HR/14 RBI/1 SB/2 CS/4 BB/22 SO/.203 BA/.226 OBP/.271 SLG/.497 OPS/ 32 TB/GDP 2/HBP 0/SH 1/SF 2/IBB 0

2013/2014 combined: Defensive stats/130 G/622 Ch/177 PO/A 423/E 22/DP 77/Fld% .965

What Arroyo clearly had going for him at his first two stops was his ability to hit for average. He is a line-drive hitter, with one occasionally clearing the wall, but both his average and his on-base percentage took a serious hit when he went from the Volcanoes at the A- level, and to the GreenJackets at the A level.

What happened was he sprained his left thumb and went on the disabled list in early May.

RESEARCH INDICATES THAT TRYING TO SWING A BASEBALL BAT WITH ANY AUTHORITY WITH A SPRAINED THUMB, WILL RESULT IN SKEWED STATS. EVERY TIME.
Therefore, the numbers that might be interpreted as adjustment issues to a higher level of play, are more likely to be the result of trying to swing a bat with a thumb that is not one hundred percent.


In also commenting on Arroyo’s selection as a first-rounder, Mike Rosenbaum, who writes for MLB Prospects Leader, described a few of those traits that Arroyo possesses. He lists quickness and speed to handle the infield at higher levels; Arroyo could adjust to other infield positions, relying on excellent instincts and high baseball IQ; finally, he has solid hands and gets rid of the ball quickly. Rosenbaum was one profiler who described Arroyo’s throwing arm as strong enough to handle any infield position.

The bottom line is that Arroyo is in camp to show what he has. He is still not even twenty-years-old, so he has plenty of time, compared to a few of the non-roster invitees who have been on the quest for a decade or longer (Justin Maxwell,yesterday’s prospect).

What Arroyo needs to do is provide firsthand, some of those intangibles that made him a first-round pick. After all, not all MLB ballplayers have the minor league stats to justify their having experienced success at the big league level.

It frequently comes down to the intangibles, such as drawing a two-out walk in the ninth inning of a National League Division Series game, the way Joe Panik did in Washington DC, allowing him to score the tying run in a contest the Giants would win in eighteen innings.

Possessing intangibles gives a player the ability to fashion a miracle out of a mud splat, the way Panik did when he speared a hot grounder in Game Seven of the 2014 World Series, in the third inning, and glove-tossed it to Brandon Crawford, who threw it on to first for the contested second out of the double play.

Whether Christian Arroyo has those tools in his possession or not, may become more apparent this spring, as he competes in the most intense venue he has ever experienced. And he has to be thinking to himself, that if spring training is the most intense venue he has ever experienced because he is playing with major leaguers, then what would it be like to play in October?

He can just ask Joe Panik.

 

[Stokes1931]

When the Giants Come to Town...: DrB's 2015 Top 50 Giants Prospects: #4 Christian Arroyo

Christian Arroyo, SS/IF. DOB 5/30/1995. 5'11", 185 lbs. B-R, T-R.

2013 Rookie AZL: .326/.388/.511, 18 2B, 5 3B, 2 HR, 9.1 BB%, 15.3 K%, 209 PA.
2014 Low A: .203/.226/.271, 3 2B, 1 3B, 1 HR, 3.2 BB%, 17.6 K%, 125 PA.
2014 Short Season: .333/.378/.469, 14 2B, 2 3B, 5 HR, 6.7 BB%, 11.6 K%, 267 PA.

Christian Arroyo was not on many radar screens as a baseball prospect until Kiley McDaniel correctly predicted that the Giants would make him their first round draft pick in 2013. Arroyo was a HS SS out of Florida with fringy tools except for a really good hit tool. When asked whether he could stick at SS, Giants management's answer was they thought so, but didn't really care. He was drafted for his bat.

The bat certainly played in his first pro summer as he raked the Arizona League. 2014 took him to Augusta to start the season. The Giants curiously moved him to 2B which was a bit sooner than a lot of people, including me, expected. Even more curiously, the move to 2B seemed to be to make room at SS for Ryder Jones, who was drafted as a 3B. Christian got off to a rough start in Augusta and later admitted that he was pressing due to high expectations. He also was beset by a string of injuries including a thumb strain, thumb bruise and a case of the flu. After some time off, he resurfaced in Salem-Keiser where he again lit up the league after a brief slow start. He hit just .187 in June at S-K but then hit .359 in July and .364 in August, hitting .400 in his last 10 games.

So which is the real Christian Arroyo? Probably somewhere in between, but I'm going to say closer to the Salem-Keiser version. Mitigating factors in Augusta included adjusting to a new level, an extreme pitching-friendly environment, the move to a new position, the injuries and the pressing from high expectations. As for level of play, the average age of prospects in the SAL is 21.5 vs 21.1 in the NWL, so virtually the same. The NWL is definitely more hitter friendly than the SAL.

In a videotaped interview with Conner Penfold of Giant Potential, Arroyo comes across as a confident, intelligent young man who likes to talk. He uses big words appropriately. I am not sure if he will go back to Augusta or make the jump to San Jose for 2015, but I think he will do well and start to move up quickly in the organization. It remains to be seen what his future position will be. With Arroyo, you either believe in the hit tool or you don't. I believe!

 

[SFGRTB]

I love Wrenzie's analysis's, but sometimes they are really hard to read. He makes quite a few grammatical errors. Not sure if it's a translation mistake or what (he writes out of the Philippines), but if he has to go through all the work of translating everything, props to him.

 

[Stokes1931]

Friday, 8/21

Sacramento demolished NO 14-3
Darren Ford 1-5, run (SB-29)
Kevin Frandsen 2-3. 4 runs, RBI, 2 walks
Jarrett Parker 2-4, 3 runs, 3 RBI, triple, homer (19)
Mac Williamson 4-4, 3 runs, 4 RBI, double, homer (5)
Trevor Brown 2-4, 2 runs, RBI
Brandon Hicks 1-3, 2 RBI, double
Nik Turley (W, 6-6) 6.2-6-3-3-2-6 (4.64)
Steven Okert (S, 2) 2.1-2-0-0-0-2 (3.60)

Richmond lost 6-0
Rando Moreno 1-3, walk
Austin Slater 1-4
Devin Harris 1-3, walk
Mitch Delfino 1-2
Chase Johnson (L, 0-1) 4-7-5-5-2-9 (first start at AA)
Pedro Rodriguez 1-0-0-0-0-0 (2.45)
Kyle Crick 1-2-1-1-0-0 (3.02) No walks!!!!
Phil McCormick 1-0-0-0-0-1 (2.26)

San Jose lost 5-3
Skyler Stromsmoe 2-4
Ryder Jones 2-4, 2 runs, RBI, double, triple
Aramis Garcia 2-4, RBI, double
Jose Reyes (L, 3-6) 5-8-5-5-2-7 (6.93)
Jeff Soptic 2-0-0-0-0-1 (3.42)
Tyler Rogers 2-1-0-0-1-1 (1.49)

Augusta lost 9-3
Dylan Davis 2-5
Andrew Cain 1-3, 2 runs, double
Matt Pare 2-3, 2 RBI ,double
D.J. Snelten (L, 5-4) 2-2-3-3-3-2 (2.68)
Carlos Diaz 1-0-0-0-0-2 (1.90)

S-K lost 7-6
Ronnie Jebavy 1-4, run, RBI
Miguel Gomez 1-4, run, RBI
John Riley 1-3, 2 runs, 2 RBI, homer
Mark Nelson 2-3, run
Christian Lichtenthaler 2-4, double
Logan Webb 5-10-4-3-0-5 (4.61)
David Owen (L, 1-2) 2-3-3-1-2-1 (3.18)
Cory Taylor 2-0-0-0-2-5 (2.32)

DSL Giants won 4-1 (now 52-19)
Robert Antunez 1-4, run, walk (SB-25-26-27)
Juan Rodriguez 1-5, RBI
Mecky Coronado 1-4
Robinson Medrano 1-4, run
Marco Guzman 3-4, run, RBI, triple
Prebito Reyes (W, 5-3) 6-3-1-0-1-6 (3.22)
Luis Amaya (S, 6) 3-2-0-0-1-2 (1.77)

AZL Giants won 7-6
Jalen Miller 2-4, 2 runs (SB-11) (R3-2015)
Mikey Edie 2-4, 2 runs, double (SB-9) (just turned 18 years old)
Dillon Dobson 3-4, 3 RBI, double (.313) (R23-2015)
Kleiber Rivas 2-4, run, double
Nathanael Javier 1-4, run, double
Jean Angomas 3-4, 2 RBI, triple
Phil Bickford 3-1-0-0-0-5 (2.33) (R1-2015)
Ryan Koziol (BS, 1)(W, 2-1) 3-2-0-0-0-1

 

[Stokes1931]

Player of the Week (through 8/16)

Northwest League

C.J. Hinojosa, Salem-Keizer (SF)

(.467/.484/.933, 7 G, 14-for-30, 3 2B, 1 3B, 3 HR, 6 RBI, 6 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 CS)
After going deep just once in his first 37 games with the Volcanoes, the Giants' 2015 11th-rounder erupted for homers in three straight games from Monday to Wednesday. If you add in his 3-for-4 game Wednesday, he also had multiple hits in four consecutive contests to start last week. Hinojosa saw his stock drop this spring, when he hit .242/.321/.403 in 54 games as a University of Texas junior but is handling himself in the jump to pro ball with a .297/.328/.474 line with four homers, a triple, 17 doubles and 18 RBIs in 44 games for Class A Short Season Salem-Keizer.

 

[SFGRTB]

Parker and Williamson are

 

[calsnowskier]

Parker and Williamson are

Mac is on a tear right now that might just make me eat my shirt on my statements that he will not see SF this season. He is doing great right now!

 

[LHG]

Mac is on a tear right now that might just make me eat my shirt on my statements that he will not see SF this season. He is doing great right now!

Which, of course, means someone will have to come off the 40 man. I cannot imagine, if all the regular outfielders are healthy in September, that the Giants will carry all of Williamson, Perez, Parker and Lollis. Someone will probably get dfa'd and my guess would be Lollis.

 

[Stokes1931]

Saturday, 8/22

Sacramento won 2-1 in 10 innings
Kevin Frandsen 1-4, double
Jarrett Parker 2-4, 2 runs, double
Hector Sanchez 1-4, double
Nick Noonan 1-3, 2 RBI
Ty Blach 8-3-1-1-1-4 (4.05)
Mike Broadway (W, 2-0) 2-0-0-0-0-2 (0.93)

Richmond lost 8-2
Hunter Cole 1-5, RBI (.306)
Austin Slater 1-3, RBI (.304)
Mitch Delfino 2-4
Tyler Beede (L, 2-8) 6.1-11-8-8-2-5 (5.35) Not looking good lately for Beede, he is getting pummelled.
In his last 10 games: 54.2 IP, 45 hits, 44 ER, 27 BB, 34 K (7.24 ERA)
Jose Casilla 1.2-1-0-0-1-0 (1.56)

San Jose lost 6-3
Christian Arroyo 1-4 (.317)
Ryder Jones 1-4, run, double
Brian Ragira 2-4, double, 2 RBI
Tyler Horan 1-3
Martin Agosta (L, 4-8) 5-8-6-6-2-6 (4.84)
Ray Black 1-0-0-0-1-3 (2.57)
Dan Slania 1-0-0-0-0-1 (3.20)

Augusta lost 10-5
Will Callaway 2-5, run, RBI
Richard Rodriguez 3-5, double
Dylan Davis 2-5, RBI
Skyler Ewing 1-3, run, 2 RBI, triple
Chuckie Jones 3-4, run, RBI, 2 doubles
Michael Santos 5-6-3-3-1-2
Dusten Knight (BS, 5)(L, 7-3) 0.0-2-5-5-2-0 (2.69)
Carlos Diaz 2-3-0-0-0-2 (1.82)

S-K won 6-5 in 10 innings
Ronnie Jebavy 2-5, walk
Miguel Gomez 2-5, run
Christopher Shaw 2-4, RBI (.291)
Christian Lichtenthaler 3-4, run, RBI
Luis Pino 6-8-3-3-3-1 (1.09)
Ryan Halstead 1-0-0-0-0-2 (2.78)
Caleb Smith (W, 2-2) 2-4-2-2-0-3 (2.57)

AZL Giants won 6-2
Jalen Miller 1-5, run, RBI
Mikey Edie 2-5, RBI
Byron Murray 1-4, run, double
Tyler Brown 1-3, run
Kleiber Rivas 2-4, run, RBI
Jean Angomas 1-4, run
Deiyerbert Bolivar (W, 1-1) 5-5-1-0-0-6 (2.13)
Matthew Pope 2-1-0-0-0-3 (4.00)
Jose Morel 1-2-1-1-0-2 (2.20)
Heath Slatton 1-0-0-0-0-2 (0.87)

DSL Giants won 3-2
Juan Rodriguez 1-4, double (.363)
Manuel Geraldo 1-4 (.328) (SB-18)
Sandro Fabian 1-4, run, RBI, solo homer
Robinson Medrano 1-2 (.294)
Marco Guzman 1-3, double
Andres Angulo 1-3, run, double
Robert Antunez 1-2, run, double (.328)
Sandro Cabrera (W, 6-2) 7-4-1-1-2-4 (2.32)
Orleny Quiroz (S, 1) 2-2-1-1-0-3

 

[Stokes1931]

Sunday, 8/23

Sacramento lost 4-3
Darren Ford 1-3, run, RBI
Jarrett Parker 2-4, RBI, double
Mac Williamson 2-4, RBI
Hector Sanchez 2-4
Carlos Triunfel 1-3, run, double
Jake Dunning 4-8-3-3-1-1
Brett Bochy 2-0-0-0-1-2 (2.63)
Clay Rapada 1-0-0-0-0-1
Curtis Partch (L, 1-3) 1-1-1-1-0-0

Richmond won, 3-2
Rando Moreno 2-4, run
Austin Slater 1-4, run
Juan Ciriaco 2-4, RBI
Joan Gregorio (W, 2-2) 6-8-2-1-2-1 (3.19)
Phil McCormick (H, 11) 0.2-0-0-0-1-0 (2.24)
Tyler Mizenko (H, 7) 1.1-1-0-0-0-0 (1.76)
Derek Law (S, 8) 1-0-0-0-0-1 (4.43)

San Jose won, 6-4
Skyler Stromsmoe 1-4, run, double
Christian Arroyo 2-3, 2 runs, 3 RBI, homer (9) (.320) (E-13)
Daniel Carbonell 2-3. 2 runs
Ryder Jones 1-4, RBI
Ty Ross 2-3, run
Christian Jones 3-3-2-2-2-4 (3.43)
Jeff Soptic (W, 2-3) 3-0-0-0-2-1 (3.22)
Tyler Rogers (H, 3) 2-2-2-1-1-2 (1.57)
Jake Smith (S, 13) 1-2-0-0-0-1 (2.46)

Augusta lost 7-3
Will Callaway 2-4
Dylan Davis 1-3, 2 run, RBI, homer (9)
Jonah Arenado 1-4 (E-25)
Chuckie Jones 2-4, 2 RBI, double
Samuel Coonrod (L, 6-5) 6-7-4-3-2-3 (3.31)
Tyler Cyr 1.2-3-3-2-2-2

S-K lost 7-2
Steven Duggar 3-4, double
John Riley 2-3, run, RBI, homer
Brad Moss 1-4, double
Andrew Leenhouts (L, 6-4) 4-6-4-4-3-5 (2.89)

AZL Giants lost 1-0 in the 11th
Angel Pagan 1-2
Dillon Dobson 1-4
Tyler Brown 1-3, double
Nicholas Gonzalez 7.1-5-0-0-0-4 (2.49) (R23-2013. 23 y/o)
Dylan Brooks 2.2-0-0-0-1-4 (2.05)
Heath Slatton (L, 3-1) 1-0-1-0-1-0 (0.83)

DSL Giants DNP

 

[SFGRTB]

Arroyo's homer estimated at 424 feet!

 

[Stokes1931]

Monday, 8/24

Sacramento lost 6-0
Everth Cabrera 1-4
Joaquin Arias 1-4, double
Nick Noonan 1-3
Chris Stratton (L, 3-5) 5-9-6-6-4-4 (4.19)
Cody Hall 1-0-0-0-1-1 (3.66)
Cory Gearrin 1-0-0-0-1-3 (3.03)
Curtis Partch 1-0-0-0-1-1 (3.79)

Richmond lost 4-3, giving up 3 in the top of the 9th
Rando Moreno 2-4, double
Austin Slater 1-3 (.303)
Hunter Cole 1-4 (.296)
Juan Ciriaco 2-4, run, RBI, 2 doubles
Eliezer Zambrano 2-4, run
Ricky Oropesa 1-1, RBI, double
Joe Biagini 7-4-1-1-3-4 (2.51)
Braulio Lara (H, 5) 1-1-0-0-0-1 (4.03)
Derek Law (H, 1)(L, 0-1) 0.1-1-3-3-2-1 (5.66)
Tyler Mizenko (BS, 4) 0.2-2-0-0-0-0

San Jose won 6-4 in 11 innings
Skyler Stromsmoe 1-5, run
Christian Arroyo 1-5, RBI
Angel Villalona 3-5, 2 runs, RBI, double, homer (10)
Ryder Jones 2-5
Aramis Garcia 1-5, run
Brian Ragira 4-5, run, 2 RBI, double
Jordan Johnson 5.2-7-0-0-4-3 (2.28)
Ian Gardeck (H, 20) 1.1-2-1-1-0-1
Ray Black (H, 4) 1-2-2-2-1-2 (3.27)
Dan Slania (BS, 5)(W, 4-5) 2-4-1-1-1-2 (3.24)
Jake Smith (S, 14) 1-0-0-0-0-1 (2.43)

S-K won 4-3
Ronnie Jebavy 1-5, RBI
Steven Duggar 3-5, 2 RBI, double
Miguel Gomez 1-5, double (.338)
Fernando Pujadas 1-4, run
Christian Lichtenthaler 1-4, run
Nolan Riggs (W, 4-2) 6-6-3-3-1-3 (3.04)
Nathanael Santiago (H, 4) 2-0-0-0-0-3 (3.63)
Ryan Halstead (S, 5) 1-0-0-0-0-2 (2.66)

 

[Stokes1931]

Pacific Coast League - Pitcher of the Week (ending 8/23)
Ty Blach, Sacramento (SF)
(1-0, 0.53 ERA, 2 G, 2 GS, 1 CG, 1 SHO, 17 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 HR, 0 HBP, 3 BB, 10 K)
Blach must really enjoy pitching at Sacramento's Raley Field, and you certainly can't blame him. The home of the River Cats is one of the more pitcher-friendly parks in the offensively tilted PCL, and the Giants' No. 20 prospect has taken full advantage. Following his two starts last week -- which included his first career nine-inning complete game Monday -- Blach owns a 3.02 ERA and 1.05 WHIP in 80 1/3 innings at home, compared to a 5.14 ERA and 1.47 WHIP in 75 1/3 frames on the road.

 

[LHG]

Monday, 8/24

Sacramento lost 6-0
Everth Cabrera 1-4
Joaquin Arias 1-4, double
Nick Noonan 1-3
Chris Stratton (L, 3-5) 5-9-6-6-4-4 (4.19)
Cody Hall 1-0-0-0-1-1 (3.66)
Cory Gearrin 1-0-0-0-1-3 (3.03)
Curtis Partch 1-0-0-0-1-1 (3.79)

Richmond lost 4-3, giving up 3 in the top of the 9th
Rando Moreno 2-4, double
Austin Slater 1-3 (.303)
Hunter Cole 1-4 (.296)
Juan Ciriaco 2-4, run, RBI, 2 doubles
Eliezer Zambrano 2-4, run
Ricky Oropesa 1-1, RBI, double
Joe Biagini 7-4-1-1-3-4 (2.51)
Braulio Lara (H, 5) 1-1-0-0-0-1 (4.03)
Derek Law (H, 1)(L, 0-1) 0.1-1-3-3-2-1 (5.66)
Tyler Mizenko (BS, 4) 0.2-2-0-0-0-0

San Jose won 6-4 in 11 innings
Skyler Stromsmoe 1-5, run
Christian Arroyo 1-5, RBI
Angel Villalona 3-5, 2 runs, RBI, double, homer (10)
Ryder Jones 2-5
Aramis Garcia 1-5, run
Brian Ragira 4-5, run, 2 RBI, double
Jordan Johnson 5.2-7-0-0-4-3 (2.28)
Ian Gardeck (H, 20) 1.1-2-1-1-0-1
Ray Black (H, 4) 1-2-2-2-1-2 (3.27)
Dan Slania (BS, 5)(W, 4-5) 2-4-1-1-1-2 (3.24)
Jake Smith (S, 14) 1-0-0-0-0-1 (2.43)

S-K won 4-3
Ronnie Jebavy 1-5, RBI
Steven Duggar 3-5, 2 RBI, double
Miguel Gomez 1-5, double (.338)
Fernando Pujadas 1-4, run
Christian Lichtenthaler 1-4, run
Nolan Riggs (W, 4-2) 6-6-3-3-1-3 (3.04)
Nathanael Santiago (H, 4) 2-0-0-0-0-3 (3.63)
Ryan Halstead (S, 5) 1-0-0-0-0-2 (2.66)

How did Derek Law get both a hold and the loss?

 

[Stokes1931]

How did Derek Law get both a hold and the loss?

A hold is an unofficial statistic that measures the effectiveness of middle relievers. A hold is granted to a relief pitcher who enters a game with his team in the lead in a save situation, and hands over that lead to another reliever without the score having been tied in the interim.

Law came in to pitch the 9th, but gave up a hit and two walks. He left the game with the lead. But Mizenko allowed three inherited runners to score, and since they were Law's, he gets the loss. Weird combination, though.

 

[LHG]

A hold is an unofficial statistic that measures the effectiveness of middle relievers. A hold is granted to a relief pitcher who enters a game with his team in the lead in a save situation, and hands over that lead to another reliever without the score having been tied in the interim.

Law came in to pitch the 9th, but gave up a hit and two walks. He left the game with the lead. But Mizenko allowed three inherited runners to score, and since they were Law's, he gets the loss. Weird combination, though.

Thank you. I understood what a hold is but didn't think about the situation where inherited runners would score. If the runs count against the pitcher, I think the pitcher shouldn't be credited with a hold (as if that statistic is really worth anything).