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msgkings322

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Agreed. We've got JV coming back next Saturday vs....Boston.

Whiz in the wings. The money is scary but in 5 years it won't look like so much.
JV is washed I think but we have enough still
 

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This trade also makes me think we are trading for pitching at some point. We now have the bats to compete for the series, just need another starting pitcher and a reliable closer.
This guy again LOL
 

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Hicks needs to abandon this idea of his that he is a starter. He can be a stud bully arm again, if he just accepts the roll.

I don't even think he was a good reliever, let alone starter

His K/9 is meh, doesn't miss that many bats and he walks a fair amount of guys
 

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I was just thinking:

How many All Stars this year for the Giants?

Webb
Ray
Ramos
Chappy
Devers
RanRod

All will be in consideration
Bro. You really have weird ideas about the all star game. The Giants will be lucky to get 2. We don't even know what Devers will do here for just 3 weeks. RanRod is a non closer he's not getting picked. Ramos is having a decent year but there are MANY OFs doing better.

We'll be lucky to get Ray and Webb and Webb alone wouldn't surprise me
 

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I don't even think he was a good reliever, let alone starter

His K/9 is meh, doesn't miss that many bats and he walks a fair amount of guys

Mediocre vet and that's about it.
 

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Maybe at 1b occasionally. But, Chappy won't miss many games at 3b so I don't see him getting time there.
He'll probably play there instead of Schmitt though, until Chapman is back
 

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Liverpool can turn around and get another FA with that money,
ftfy

Not sure what the Sox plan on doing in the 2026 offseason, the FA market for RHH isn't particularly appealing. The only one I'd consider a mega deal for is Tucker and the Sox already have an outfield logjam.
 

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ftfy

Not sure what the Sox plan on doing in the 2026 offseason, the FA market for RHH isn't particularly appealing
And yet, the Giants not asking them to cover any salary is why the players you got are not special

Harrison has that upside though, could be like Wheeler
 

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there's millions of those in today's MLB
And now you have another, and a legit SP with upside, and money to spend.

I get thinking bad trade for you but it's not as bad as you are making it out (same with Luka trade)
 
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And now you have another, and a legit SP with upside, and money to spend.

I get thinking bad trade for you but it's not as bad as you are making it out (same with Luka trade)

I get some of the logic behind the trade, but I think the timing of it is rather nonsensical (deadline is 6-7 weeks away, Sox are 37-36, they're down Bregman) and I just don't think some of the return is a good fit. I do like the Sox freeing up money and I do think they're better off ridding themselves of it in the future, but there's always going to be the matter of what they do with that money. And while I think they're vastly improving their roster flexibility and payroll by moving him, I do think this trade hurts from a 2025 perspective.

I do like us getting Harrison out of the trade, but I just don't think Tibbs is a logical fit unless the Sox plan on using him or someone else as a trade chip. I don't hate him as a prospect either, he was a 1st rounder and he has a 132 wRC+ despite the meh BA with good K/BB rates... the Sox just have a bunch of outfielders already with Anthony/Duran/Rafaela/Abreu/Campbell/Refsnyder. Jose Bello has great K/BB rates, but he's 20 now and he hasn't even pitched in A ball

It might also just be the shock of the trade and the familiar feeling of the Nomar/Betts trades, but at least one of those trades worked out for the Sox. Hopefully it works out like the Nomar trade, but I'm feeling pretty skeptical right now. I hope you enjoy Devers at least, he is a fun hitter to watch. I will miss him killing the Yanks and making Cole his bitch
 
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