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just my opinion. But after hearing JL complain all winter about Valverde not having a team it was JL who wanted Jose back on the team. DD wanted Rondon or closer by committee . Trying to save $$ on a closer in order to try and sign mad max.By the way Jose is making 2 Mil . he gets a half mil for 25 games finished and a half mil for every 5 games finished after that. Jose has now finished 17 games. We shall see if he struggles how close he gets to those bonuses.
 

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adrain .....have the Tigers even considered RonDon or Hoffman? They seem to have good #s in Toledo.....Hoffman is not on the 40 man....was last year....
 

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Anyone heard from Winnipeg....did he come over?...His Blue Bombers, CFL, have started to play....just wondering....
 

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adrain .....have the Tigers even considered RonDon or Hoffman? They seem to have good #s in Toledo.....Hoffman is not on the 40 man....was last year....

I see what your saying Burf but pitching in AAA and closing in the majors are two different animals... Its a WS or bust for this team this year imo... You can't be playing around with in house guys in the minors who have never closed in the show before... Gotta get a proven big league closer who can go out there and nail down victory after victory for us... Kinda like Papa did 2 years ago... But we all know hes not gonna be doing that again
 

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LOL looks like Shano gave all our comments a thumbs down... Is he 12 years old?
 

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Must be he got bored of finger popping butts :laugh3:
 
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Right, Spartan, but u have to have a plan B or C or D.....if a trade don't happen or you have give up the whole farm.....well plan B C ......Rondon was here and was sent down for seasoning......Hoffman is a lefty..... #s are good......there is lots of season left to see what they can do......?
 

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Rondon was plan A.... Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in spring training or when he was up this year.... Coke was plan B but sucked big time... Valverde was plan C.... Plan D needs to be a winner so we don't have to play this musical closers game all season
 

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adrain .....have the Tigers even considered RonDon or Hoffman? They seem to have good #s in Toledo.....Hoffman is not on the 40 man....was last year....
I think Hoffman will be up fairly soon. Was the # 14 prospect coming into the season. Probably a replacement for Coke/Downs. not sure they see him as a closer. managers, especially old school guys do not like to have more then 2 lefties outside of the setup/closer roles in the pen. So Hoffman has to replace one of the 2 lefties. Although he is holding righty/lefties to around the same results in AAA. he has really not closed games in the minors, so not really the answer in a closer.
 

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Right, Spartan, but u have to have a plan B or C or D.....if a trade don't happen or you have give up the whole farm.....well plan B C ......Rondon was here and was sent down for seasoning......Hoffman is a lefty..... #s are good......there is lots of season left to see what they can do......?

And there will not be any top closers available via trade. Many of the good ones are on teams that still have post season ambitions. What will be left is guys like Jose Veras of Houston or Marmol or Wilhelmson, or overrated guys like Street or League. Papelbon willl come at a terrific price - both financially and in players lost. My opinion....try everybody the organization has - right now. From Smiley to Rondon, from Benoit to Hoffman.....lineup for tryouts!
 

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It was obvious Rondon was plan A.....When he was sent back down, I've been on the Smyly bus....Guess JL and I don't see Eye To eye...

I'm watching how there using him.......It doesn't seem to be with closer intent or starter intent.....More like a specialist to get one or two tough outs. Then pull him for god knows what we got in the pen.
 

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As far as Rondon , he is pitching better. Still inconsistent as far as BB's. Tigers need to get Villereal/Albecracky to get their act together and rejoin the Tigers.
 

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I miss Al Al......What happened there? Did the BP ball off his noggin really mess it up?
 

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Al just can't find the plate. 13 BB in 14 innings in detroit. In Toledo 11 BB in 11 innings. K,s are great, but just too many walks.
 

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Needs some "Ricky (Wildthing) Vaughn" in him then.......Maybe some new glasses.
 

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Safe at home. This is why replay is needed in baseball.
 

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Nice throw
 

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nice job JL. Sanchez was not ready. should have been placed on the DL list and let Alvarez get another start. Now the game is in the hand of the pen.

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Looks like Alvarez will be back. Would be nice if they could send Smyly to Toledo to stretch out his arm...but can't spare him from the pen.
 
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