Dak Prescott

[PDay8810]

Yep, I was always critical of White,but he did get to conference championship games . I agree with this rating.

thats cause us old school cowboy fans know playoff advancement remains the benchmark of pro sports.

 

[jarntt]

 

[jarntt]

Other than the SBs, Championship games and pretty much all playoffs and any other important games Dak = Mahomes...

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Other than the SBs, Championship games and pretty much all playoffs and any other important games Dak = Mahomes...

just shows.
Defense still matters!

The greatest show on turf got upset by a defense.
The Broncos broke all kinds of offensive & QB records & got annihilated by a defense.

 

[jarntt]

just shows.
Defense still matters!

The greatest show on turf got upset by a defense.
The Broncos broke all kinds of offensive & QB records & got annihilated by a defense.

Of course defense matters but I’m not sure that’s what it shows

also, our defense and KCs defense were on average statistically kind of close the last couple of years.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Of course defense matters but I’m not sure that’s what it shows

also, our defense and KCs defense were on average statistically kind of close the last couple of years.

well everyone complains about Daks record in playoffs & 100% of those losses had to do with defense failing. (we dont lose 10-3 games)
I watch Chiefs defenses making plays in playoffs, but with all that said.
I am not comparing Dak to Mahomes. Just pointing out no matter how good your QB is. Without a defense to support them. They more often than not, will lose in the postseason.

 

[jarntt]

well everyone complains about Daks record in playoffs & 100% of those losses had to do with defense failing. (we dont lose 10-3 games)
I watch Chiefs defenses making plays in playoffs, but with all that said.
I am not comparing Dak to Mahomes. Just pointing out no matter how good your QB is. Without a defense to support them. They more often than not, will lose in the postseason.

Sorry, but that's total BS. You can't possibly believe that. Why even have a QB then?

 

[jarntt]

How did Dak and our offense start until the game was for all intents and purposes out of reach?

1st drive passes

• 1st & 10 at DAL 49​

  (5:15 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short right to J.Ferguson to DAL 49 for no gain (I.McDuffie).

• 3rd & 8 at GB 49​

  (4:07 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short middle to C.Lamb.

2nd drive passes

• 1st & 10 at DAL 8​

  (1:26 - 1st) D.Prescott pass incomplete deep left to B.Cooks.

• 3rd & 5 at DAL 13​

  (0:38 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left intended for B.Cooks INTERCEPTED by J.Alexander at DAL 19. J.Alexander to DAL 19 for no gain (B.Cooks). (gave them the ball in the red zone and they went up 14-0)

3rd drive passes

• 3rd & 2 at DAL 33​

  (12:34 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left to R.Dowdle to DAL 37 for 4 yards (K.Nixon, J.Alexander).

• 1st & 10 at DAL 37​

  (12:00 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short right to C.Lamb.

• 2nd & 10 at DAL 37​

  (11:57 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass deep middle to J.Ferguson to GB 41 for 22 yards (J.Owens).

• 3rd & 5 at GB 36​

  (10:12 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott sacked at GB 42 for -6 yards (K.Nixon).

4th drive passes

• 1st & 10 at DAL 25​

  (3:23 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short left to C.Lamb.

• 2nd & 10 at DAL 25​

  (3:19 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left to M.Gallup to DAL 34 for 9 yards (J.Alexander).

• 3rd & 1 at DAL 34​

  (3:00 - 2nd) (No Huddle) D.Prescott pass short right to B.Cooks to DAL 36 for 2 yards (K.Nixon).

• 1st & 10 at DAL 36​

  (2:32 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short middle to M.Gallup to GB 48 for 16 yards (J.Alexander).

• 1st & 10 at GB 48​

  (2:06 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short right to C.Lamb to GB 40 for 8 yards (C.Valentine).

• 2nd & 2 at GB 40​

  (1:50 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left intended for C.Lamb INTERCEPTED by D.Savage at GB 36. D.Savage for 64 yards, TOUCHDOWN.A.Carlson extra point is GOOD, Center-M.Orzech, Holder-D.Whelan.

pick 6, score 27-0. Game over. The team had a chance to score and make it 20-7 and swing momentum and the crowd. You can try and prep Dak all you want as it is your prerogative, but you aren't being honest if you don't admit he was a huge part of that loss as he was the playoff losses of the last few years.

 

[jarntt]

well everyone complains about Daks record in playoffs & 100% of those losses had to do with defense failing. (we dont lose 10-3 games)
I watch Chiefs defenses making plays in playoffs, but with all that said.
I am not comparing Dak to Mahomes. Just pointing out no matter how good your QB is. Without a defense to support them. They more often than not, will lose in the postseason.

2021 in the playoff loss our offense scored 17 points. Dak threw an interception at our own 26 that led to the game winning TD.
2022 in the playoff loss our offense scored 12 points. Dak threw 2 interceptions. One at our own 27 that led to a SF FG and the second in the red zone.
2023 the stats were great because of garbage time accumulation. The lost, no confidence, deer in the headlights look on Dak's face in the first half was never more evident.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

How did Dak and our offense start until the game was for all intents and purposes out of reach?

1st drive passes

• 1st & 10 at DAL 49​

  (5:15 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short right to J.Ferguson to DAL 49 for no gain (I.McDuffie).

• 3rd & 8 at GB 49​

  (4:07 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short middle to C.Lamb.

2nd drive passes

• 1st & 10 at DAL 8​

  (1:26 - 1st) D.Prescott pass incomplete deep left to B.Cooks.

• 3rd & 5 at DAL 13​

  (0:38 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left intended for B.Cooks INTERCEPTED by J.Alexander at DAL 19. J.Alexander to DAL 19 for no gain (B.Cooks). (gave them the ball in the red zone and they went up 14-0)

3rd drive passes

• 3rd & 2 at DAL 33​

  (12:34 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left to R.Dowdle to DAL 37 for 4 yards (K.Nixon, J.Alexander).

• 1st & 10 at DAL 37​

  (12:00 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short right to C.Lamb.

• 2nd & 10 at DAL 37​

  (11:57 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass deep middle to J.Ferguson to GB 41 for 22 yards (J.Owens).

• 3rd & 5 at GB 36​

  (10:12 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott sacked at GB 42 for -6 yards (K.Nixon).

4th drive passes

• 1st & 10 at DAL 25​

  (3:23 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass incomplete short left to C.Lamb.

• 2nd & 10 at DAL 25​

  (3:19 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left to M.Gallup to DAL 34 for 9 yards (J.Alexander).

• 3rd & 1 at DAL 34​

  (3:00 - 2nd) (No Huddle) D.Prescott pass short right to B.Cooks to DAL 36 for 2 yards (K.Nixon).

• 1st & 10 at DAL 36​

  (2:32 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short middle to M.Gallup to GB 48 for 16 yards (J.Alexander).

• 1st & 10 at GB 48​

  (2:06 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short right to C.Lamb to GB 40 for 8 yards (C.Valentine).

• 2nd & 2 at GB 40​

  (1:50 - 2nd) (Shotgun) D.Prescott pass short left intended for C.Lamb INTERCEPTED by D.Savage at GB 36. D.Savage for 64 yards, TOUCHDOWN.A.Carlson extra point is GOOD, Center-M.Orzech, Holder-D.Whelan.

pick 6, score 27-0. Game over. The team had a chance to score and make it 20-7 and swing momentum and the crowd. You can try and prep Dak all you want as it is your prerogative, but you aren't being honest if you don't admit he was a huge part of that loss as he was the playoff losses of the last few years.

absolutely. I am not saying he has played great in all the games. We all know he didnt in the last one.
But He (all QBs really) get blamed for all loses in playoffs. That just isnt the case. Keep in mind in that game we gave up 48 points.
Roger staubach Had to come from behind by multiple scores to become Capt. Comeback. He couldnt do that if his defense folded like a cheap suit.
In fact it is a running joke of mine with the Chiefs & Mahomes. The worst thing a team can do is get up by multiple scores on the chiefs. Which happened a lot in the post season. Then Mahomes goes to work & the defense buckles down.
With a Cowboys QB however. Everyone goes into a kneejerk reaction after a post season loss. This pretty much dates back to Danny White really.
When Dak played against Aaron Rodgers led Packers. We were down by 15 in the 4th. He brought us all the way back & only left Rodgers like 29 sec. (dont remember exactly) Defense shit the bed Rodgers got his team in FG range & won the game.
1st thing said. Dak cant win a playoff game as if it were his fault they gave up the points with seconds left in the game.

Dak isnt an elite QB, (term gets thrown around too much) but he is one of the top franchise QBs in the league right now. Was in the running for MVP. One game doesnt make the player. (good or bad) You guys like to take this one game & attach it to all the Cowboy failures in the post season. Which isnt true & frankly just lazy to sound out our frustrations.
Now throw in our We got out coached on all sides of the ball, Dak didnt play well, & the defense did what it always does in post season. Fail.
I said afterwards when the cowboys fans went from Dak is great & our DC needs to be HC to get rid of Dak & hope the DC leaves the team. That there were plenty of blame to go around. They all shit the bed in the last game. That still doesnt make it all post season losses Daks fault. As much as everyone wants to throw it on the QBs.

 

[UK Cowboy]

well everyone complains about Daks record in playoffs & 100% of those losses had to do with defense failing. (we dont lose 10-3 games)
I watch Chiefs defenses making plays in playoffs, but with all that said.
I am not comparing Dak to Mahomes. Just pointing out no matter how good your QB is. Without a defense to support them. They more often than not, will lose in the postseason.

If Patrick Mahomes had been our QB the last 3 years we win at least two Rings, zero doubt in my mind.

 

[redskinsfan1963]

absolutely. I am not saying he has played great in all the games. We all know he didnt in the last one.
But He (all QBs really) get blamed for all loses in playoffs. That just isnt the case. Keep in mind in that game we gave up 48 points.
Roger staubach Had to come from behind by multiple scores to become Capt. Comeback. He couldnt do that if his defense folded like a cheap suit.
In fact it is a running joke of mine with the Chiefs & Mahomes. The worst thing a team can do is get up by multiple scores on the chiefs. Which happened a lot in the post season. Then Mahomes goes to work & the defense buckles down.
With a Cowboys QB however. Everyone goes into a kneejerk reaction after a post season loss. This pretty much dates back to Danny White really.
When Dak played against Aaron Rodgers led Packers. We were down by 15 in the 4th. He brought us all the way back & only left Rodgers like 29 sec. (dont remember exactly) Defense shit the bed Rodgers got his team in FG range & won the game.
1st thing said. Dak cant win a playoff game as if it were his fault they gave up the points with seconds left in the game.

Dak isnt an elite QB, (term gets thrown around too much) but he is one of the top franchise QBs in the league right now. Was in the running for MVP. One game doesnt make the player. (good or bad) You guys like to take this one game & attach it to all the Cowboy failures in the post season. Which isnt true & frankly just lazy to sound out our frustrations.
Now throw in our We got out coached on all sides of the ball, Dak didnt play well, & the defense did what it always does in post season. Fail.
I said afterwards when the cowboys fans went from Dak is great & our DC needs to be HC to get rid of Dak & hope the DC leaves the team. That there were plenty of blame to go around. They all shit the bed in the last game. That still doesnt make it all post season losses Daks fault. As much as everyone wants to throw it on the QBs.

staubach was special with a defense to boot.dak could not be staubach,s jock.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

If Patrick Mahomes had been our QB the last 3 years we win at least two Rings, zero doubt in my mind.

Mahomes is an elite QB. Which there are only a few of. No matter how much the word gets thrown around. Already said. I am not comparing Dak to Mahomes. But even he still has needed his defense to buckle down in the 4th Qtrs.
Our 4th Qtr defenses has always sucked. Especially the 4 min. defense. Been that way since probably the Nineties. Which was about the last time we were relevant in the postseason.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

staubach was special with a defense to boot.dak could not be staubach,s jock.

Well Staubach is my favorite player (well 1a & 1b) with Randy White. So you wont get an argument out of me.

 

[redskinsfan1963]

Well Staubach is my favorite player (well 1a & 1b) with Randy White. So you wont get an argument out of me.

he was slicker than owl shit to beat.tough bastard too.best ever cowboys QB.

 

[jarntt]

absolutely. I am not saying he has played great in all the games. We all know he didnt in the last one.
But He (all QBs really) get blamed for all loses in playoffs. That just isnt the case. Keep in mind in that game we gave up 48 points.
Roger staubach Had to come from behind by multiple scores to become Capt. Comeback. He couldnt do that if his defense folded like a cheap suit.
In fact it is a running joke of mine with the Chiefs & Mahomes. The worst thing a team can do is get up by multiple scores on the chiefs. Which happened a lot in the post season. Then Mahomes goes to work & the defense buckles down.
With a Cowboys QB however. Everyone goes into a kneejerk reaction after a post season loss. This pretty much dates back to Danny White really.
When Dak played against Aaron Rodgers led Packers. We were down by 15 in the 4th. He brought us all the way back & only left Rodgers like 29 sec. (dont remember exactly) Defense shit the bed Rodgers got his team in FG range & won the game.
1st thing said. Dak cant win a playoff game as if it were his fault they gave up the points with seconds left in the game.

Dak isnt an elite QB, (term gets thrown around too much) but he is one of the top franchise QBs in the league right now. Was in the running for MVP. One game doesnt make the player. (good or bad) You guys like to take this one game & attach it to all the Cowboy failures in the post season. Which isnt true & frankly just lazy to sound out our frustrations.
Now throw in our We got out coached on all sides of the ball, Dak didnt play well, & the defense did what it always does in post season. Fail.
I said afterwards when the cowboys fans went from Dak is great & our DC needs to be HC to get rid of Dak & hope the DC leaves the team. That there were plenty of blame to go around. They all shit the bed in the last game. That still doesnt make it all post season losses Daks fault. As much as everyone wants to throw it on the QBs.

That's the whole point. He didn't in the game that mattered most all year. Who cares about what he did in the regular season. The NFL is about SBs, not regular season wins. Give me a guy who steps up in the playoffs or when the pressure is on any day over a regular season guy. Dak has absolutely been part of the problem in the final loss which is why he doesn't have and shouldn't have a contract right now. That is the point. Nothing about the defense playing a role as well. Everyone states they clearly did. Heck, I was off the Quinn bandwagon way before everyone else after watching how we not only didn't stop the run but did n;'t even make any adjustments to try and do so. The 2 LB set on early downs all year and with one being a safety was inexcusable.

But, check what the defense did in 2021 before you say always. You are just making excuses to deflect from Dak's role in the loss and yes QBs get the credit and the blame because they are by a mile the most important position which is why they get $60M per. You will never hear me say Dak isn't good or that he was the only reason we lost. I just get tired of reading people make excuses for him and pretend he wasn't a huge part of it. You have home field. Go out and score the first 3 times you get the ball against a less than average GB team at home and don't worry about what the defense does or don't complain about them if you don't. Even Eli found a way to do it when it mattered and one of those years they had about the worst defense in the league and he wasn't necessarily better than Dak. When you are a QB who gets in the playoffs as many times as Dak you absolutely will and deserve to be judged on how far you take your team. That doesn't mean you are solely to blame when you lose but you certainly play a huge role in it and that's what your legacy will be.

 

[jarntt]

If Patrick Mahomes had been our QB the last 3 years we win at least two Rings, zero doubt in my mind.

I don't know how many rings we would have but we would have beat SF both games and GB last year IMO

 

[UK Cowboy]

I don't know how many rings we would have but we would have beat SF both games and GB last year IMO

Which would have left KC without Mahomes, so they would have been 6-11 instead of the Super Bowl. I don't see the other AFC teams beating is with him
But Mahomes is one of one. My whole thing on Dak is the money. For the enormous amount of money he will make, you could go with a rookie or young QB and a team with 4-5 more solid-top end players. I just think that's the way to go. We will see this year. Dak is running $50+ million. Let's see if he can elevate the player around him instead of depending on them

 

[tomodach10]

well everyone complains about Daks record in playoffs & 100% of those losses had to do with defense failing. (we dont lose 10-3 games)
I watch Chiefs defenses making plays in playoffs, but with all that said.
I am not comparing Dak to Mahomes. Just pointing out no matter how good your QB is. Without a defense to support them. They more often than not, will lose in the postseason.

I have been a big crtic of the defense for years, but I can't put 100 percent blame on them for the playoff loses. If Dak played better in the two SF losses, we would have won. I blame the defense and coaching 80% on the Green Bay and Rams playoff losses.

 

[redskinsfan1963]

I have been a big crtic of the defense for years, but I can't put 100 percent blame on them for the playoff loses. If Dak played better in the two SF losses, we would have won. I blame the defense and coaching 80% on the Green Bay and Rams playoff losses.

whole team looked like a fish out of water against gb.