D. Ware

[58crash]

Then maybe you should empty your piggy bank Crash so we don't lose those other guys who position is lacking in importance to winning. And while your add it write me a ck too.

Draft is how you keep the other guys . Saunders was really no body when our staff said to themselves they really liked him from scouting the draft ..So Draft Scouting is paramount n keeping this team competitive ...DE Smith and Walker are a huge part of how great this team is why you got to keep big buck guys that are not doing any more seem wasteful.

 

[Broncos6482]

Then you need to pull off your cheat skating eye glasses off ..He will be playing next year for the Broncos .

It's not about being a cheap skate, it's about the salary cap. There's only so much money that can go around, and investing $11 million in a 34 year old pass rusher with a bad back is not a good investment.

 

[Broncos6482]

Ware was killing QB's I don't see this drop off of his game you ya hooooooooo's see so I think you should bye a huge flat screen TV at least 65" and Get HD ... I would also advise you both to look into lazar eye surge ..they are doing great things with it these days

Yes, he's great when he's healthy, but he can't stay healthy. That's the point. He's only played in 7 games this year. And he's been very productive in those 7 games, but it's still only 7 games.

 

[58crash]

Crash saves his money because he eats roadkill with blueberries on it.

This is true I have found two dead deer in my drive way in 6 months both were killed with there back legs broke in the lower part not one part of the meat wasted ...at around $28 a pound ...I am loving it ...come on deer get it in my drive way this morning ... I am feeling lucky..

 

[58crash]

Yes, he's great when he's healthy, but he can't stay healthy. That's the point. He's only played in 7 games this year. And he's been very productive in those 7 games, but it's still only 7 games.

He has earned every dime of his contract .

 

[Broncos6482]

He has earned every dime of his contract .

I'm glad you aren't running the Broncos.

 

[cdumler7]

I definitely would not want Elway's job this off season.

I mean might have to cut a HOF QB if Manning doesn't make things easy and just retire
Might have to cut our All-Pro LT that has been the longest tenured player on the team because he can't stay healthy
Have to make a decision about the future of the QB position of whether to sign Osweiler or not
Possibly have to cut another HOF in Ware because of injuries compared to price
Who to sign and who to let walk

I keep saying this but this off season will be huge in forming what our team will look like for the next 5 years.

 

[58crash]

I definitely would not want Elway's job this off season.

I mean might have to cut a HOF QB if Manning doesn't make things easy and just retire
Might have to cut our All-Pro LT that has been the longest tenured player on the team because he can't stay healthy
Have to make a decision about the future of the QB position of whether to sign Osweiler or not
Possibly have to cut another HOF in Ware because of injuries compared to price
Who to sign and who to let walk

I keep saying this but this off season will be huge in forming what our team will look like for the next 5 years.

cut all but one above and keep the guy play better than anyone in the nfl ..easy

 

[cdumler7]

cut all but one above and keep the guy play better than anyone in the nfl ..easy

Believe me I love Ware and love that he is on our team. I honestly would love to keep him one more year as I think his training of Shane Ray and Barrett could be huge to our immediate future. Throw in he has been a huge help for Von Miller cleaning up his life. At the same time paying a guy with age and health concerns to be like one of the top players at his position is a recipe for falling flat on our faces as a franchise. The Steelers saw it for a few years there where they kept aging vets around hoping they could get just a bit more out of them to continually see those players keep getting hurt and the cap hits hurting the team from building any kind of depth.

Now to me you first go talk to him about a reduced rate. Kind of like you did with Manning this year in the hopes that he knows he only has maybe one more good year in him and doesn't want to leave this franchise to start over again just for a bit more money. If he is not willing to take that though to me you have to let him go. We have too many players needing new contracts that week in and week out have dominated for us. The combo of Wolfe and Jackson has maybe been the most underrated part of this defense all year long. We don't have their replacements on the roster right now where we do have Ware's. In fact we have 2 guys that can replace him and do well.

 

[SpringStein]

Draft is how you keep the other guys . Saunders was really no body when our staff said to themselves they really liked him from scouting the draft ..So Draft Scouting is paramount n keeping this team competitive ....

Don't get carried away my friend. There was a reason the Patriots signed him to an offer sheet and the Steelers matched it the year before he signed with us. It wasn't because he was a nobody.

 

[58crash]

this staff and it's personnel department has uncovered gold players all the same that were cut over and over .. Sanders was still a hot tub magnet and still had yet to really produce . yes I was wrong about him . Still he is not a #1 WR I still would not pay any more than what NYJ paid for ED ..He is okay for this Scheme not great for it .. I would like a bigger WR to play #2 . So yes I like him no I would not Resign him ...

 

[58crash]

Everyone needs to understand We are now a Running team .

 

[cdumler7]

this staff and it's personnel department has uncovered gold players all the same that were cut over and over .. Sanders was still a hot tub magnet and still had yet to really produce . yes I was wrong about him . Still he is not a #1 WR I still would not pay any more than what NYJ paid for ED ..He is okay for this Scheme not great for it .. I would like a bigger WR to play #2 . So yes I like him no I would not Resign him ...

I would agree in part with this. I agree I would not pay him more than what the Jets paid ED. We can't have that much money tied up in the WR position especially like you said we are working to become a more balanced team with a great run offense. I still think Sanders though is a better player than Decker. He does a much better job of beating press coverage and winning the one on one battles. He is not the red zone threat that ED was for sure but in every other part of his game he is better in my opinion. He is clutch especially on 3rd down and he has been the guy that both Osweiler and Manning looks to in those crucial moments. I'm willing to try and see what we get him signed for where with ED I thought it was a good idea we didn't even offer him a contract. Now if Latimer develops though then I do think you have to let Sanders walk. We drafted him for a reason and I hope he does show to be a great receiver for us.

 

[Broncosr0k]

Everyone needs to understand We are now a Running team .

A run first team with a deep threat passing game. (Kubiak offense) The deep game is where Sanders helps quite a bit.

 

[58crash]

I would agree in part with this. I agree I would not pay him more than what the Jets paid ED. We can't have that much money tied up in the WR position especially like you said we are working to become a more balanced team with a great run offense. I still think Sanders though is a better player than Decker. He does a much better job of beating press coverage and winning the one on one battles. He is not the red zone threat that ED was for sure but in every other part of his game he is better in my opinion. He is clutch especially on 3rd down and he has been the guy that both Osweiler and Manning looks to in those crucial moments. I'm willing to try and see what we get him signed for where with ED I thought it was a good idea we didn't even offer him a contract. Now if Latimer develops though then I do think you have to let Sanders walk. We drafted him for a reason and I hope he does show to be a great receiver for us.

This but Ed was still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better at ST and it is not even close !

 

[cdumler7]

This but Ed was still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better at ST and it is not even close !

Yeah I guess I can give him special teams.

 

[58crash]

My deal was I still will always believe We should of had the best WR Corps in the NFL Ever ..I say they really messed up letting ED go .. He was really bum that we let him go with out offering him a contract what so ever .. he said he loved this team . and he had great chemistry with Manning

 

[58crash]

Sander ED and DT would be perfect and IMO we would of never missed JT one bit .

 

[Broncosr0k]

Sander ED and DT would be perfect and IMO we would of never missed JT one bit .

Perfect and expensive. I also think the broncos were expecting more from Latimer to replace Decker's red zone production.

The cap severely limits how much money you could drop into any given position.

 

[Broncos6482]

Sander ED and DT would be perfect and IMO we would of never missed JT one bit .

Yes and that was never going to happen. If the Broncos had re-signed Decker, they wouldn't have signed Sanders.