Current Roster

[calsnowskier]

Pretty similar to Drew Ferguson

Ferguson plays center and has so-so HR power with legit gap power. Andreoli seems rather pointless.

But he does have 2 options, so maybe they think there is something there they can work with.

 

[LHG]

That was fast - Giants Acquire Jake Barrett, Designate John Andreoli

 

[calsnowskier]

That was fast - Giants Acquire Jake Barrett, Designate John Andreoli

Updated.

 

[SFGRTB]

That was fast - Giants Acquire Jake Barrett, Designate John Andreoli

As with Gerber, I'll bet they did that move hoping that they'd be able to stash him in AAA.

Barrett is basically replacing Law, but he has an option.

 

[calsnowskier]

Any word what we gave up for Barrett?

 

[MarcoPolo]

Any word what we gave up for Barrett?

cash considerations, apparently.

Diamondbacks trade reliever Jake Barrett to Giants for cash

Giants acquire righty Barrett from D-backs for cash

 

[LHG]

As with Gerber, I'll bet they did that move hoping that they'd be able to stash him in AAA.

Barrett is basically replacing Law, but he has an option.

I just don't understand the need for that. They've already got Steven Duggar, Drew Ferguson, Chris Shaw, Austin Slater and Mac Williamson on the 40 man roster. Additionally, there they've picked up Anthony Garcia, Mike Gerber, Levi Michael, Henry Ramos and Brock Stassi as minor league free agents. How does John Andreoli stand out among this group enough to have even picked him up? To me, its one thing to look at the potential outfield configuration and think about upgrading through free agency or trades (which is questionable enough, in my mind, in its necessity). Its quite another to feel like picking up a bunch more unproven guys in their mid to late 20s by the bunches. Seems completely unnecessary.

 

[calsnowskier]

I just don't understand the need for that. They've already got Steven Duggar, Drew Ferguson, Chris Shaw, Austin Slater and Mac Williamson on the 40 man roster. Additionally, there they've picked up Anthony Garcia, Mike Gerber, Levi Michael, Henry Ramos and Brock Stassi as minor league free agents. How does John Andreoli stand out among this group enough to have even picked him up? To me, its one thing to look at the potential outfield configuration and think about upgrading through free agency or trades (which is questionable enough, in my mind, in its necessity). Its quite another to feel like picking up a bunch more unproven guys in their mid to late 20s by the bunches. Seems completely unnecessary.

Andreoli, in particular, is especially unremarkable. I like Ferguson, and Garber offers moderate power with decent D. But Andreoli doesn’t have a power tool or a bat tool, and he only plays the corner outfield positions. Why bring him in at all? Slightly above average speed? Ho hum.

 

[SFGRTB]

I just don't understand the need for that. They've already got Steven Duggar, Drew Ferguson, Chris Shaw, Austin Slater and Mac Williamson on the 40 man roster. Additionally, there they've picked up Anthony Garcia, Mike Gerber, Levi Michael, Henry Ramos and Brock Stassi as minor league free agents. How does John Andreoli stand out among this group enough to have even picked him up? To me, its one thing to look at the potential outfield configuration and think about upgrading through free agency or trades (which is questionable enough, in my mind, in its necessity). Its quite another to feel like picking up a bunch more unproven guys in their mid to late 20s by the bunches. Seems completely unnecessary.

I mean these guys have to do SOMETHING well, or have some sort of translatable tool that stands out on the field but not in their statlines. Max Muncy didn't really show much of anything of note before exploding for the dodgers. Taylor was similar (although his numbers were pretty good). The Giants have picked up a number of these guys in the past too (Torres, Casilla etc.). It's better than them picking up a bunch of Aaron Hills to fill the AAA roster.

I get the argument, but you can't have enough depth in the minor leagues. You saw how gutted Sacramento got by July.

 

[LHG]

I mean these guys have to do SOMETHING well, or have some sort of translatable tool that stands out on the field but not in their statlines. Max Muncy didn't really show much of anything of note before exploding for the dodgers. Taylor was similar (although his numbers were pretty good). The Giants have picked up a number of these guys in the past too (Torres, Casilla etc.). It's better than them picking up a bunch of Aaron Hills to fill the AAA roster.

I get the argument, but you can't have enough depth in the minor leagues. You saw how gutted Sacramento got by July.

The problem with that is where do you stash them from April to June? I don't know how many guys can be stuck in extended spring training or what the rules are for who can be there, but I doubt many guys would want to be idle from actual games that long (like they have much choice, though). I think the depth is fine as is. It just seems too much, but that is Zaidi's MO, based on what he did with the Dodgers.

 

[Hangman]

John Andreoli is a good person. I met him a few times when he was on Cape.

 

[SFGRTB]

The problem with that is where do you stash them from April to June? I don't know how many guys can be stuck in extended spring training or what the rules are for who can be there, but I doubt many guys would want to be idle from actual games that long (like they have much choice, though). I think the depth is fine as is. It just seems too much, but that is Zaidi's MO, based on what he did with the Dodgers.

I think the Giants won't have a hard time finding somewhere for these guys to play, even if it's a lower level.

 

[LHG]

I think the Giants won't have a hard time finding somewhere for these guys to play, even if it's a lower level.

If you start talking about AA level, then names like Dylan Davis, Johneshwy Fargas, Jacob Heyward, Ronnie Jebavy, Bryce Johnson and Heath Quinn have to be added to the mix. You pushed a few of them down and they are competing with Logan Baldwin, Aaron Bond, Dalton Combs, Sandro Fabian, Heliot Ramos and Malique Ziegler.

 

[SFGRTB]

If you start talking about AA level, then names like Dylan Davis, Johneshwy Fargas, Jacob Heyward, Ronnie Jebavy, Bryce Johnson and Heath Quinn have to be added to the mix. You pushed a few of them down and they are competing with Logan Baldwin, Aaron Bond, Dalton Combs, Sandro Fabian, Heliot Ramos and Malique Ziegler.

Not going to lose sleep over Davis, Fargas or Jebavy losing PT.

I get your point, but SO MUCH movement happens in the minors that it probably won't be a big deal.

 

[LHG]

Just read a rumor of Pence to the Rangers. Nothing more.

 

[calsnowskier]

Just read a rumor of Pence to the Rangers. Nothing more.

Good for him, but I hate to see him in another uni...

 

[LHG]

Good for him, but I hate to see him in another uni...

 

[calsnowskier]

I figured he would sign with Giants, Astros or Rangers, with the Rangers being the most likely. I posted as much a while back (too lazy to find the post).

Again, happy for him. Kinda like Pat the Bat joining the Giants. But it sucks to see him elsewhere.

 

[SFGRTB]

I figured he would sign with Giants, Astros or Rangers, with the Rangers being the most likely. I posted as much a while back (too lazy to find the post).

Again, happy for him. Kinda like Pat the Bat joining the Giants. But it sucks to see him elsewhere.

Pretty much EXACTLY like Pat the Bat, hopefully it works out for him. But it will be odd.

 

[calsnowskier]

I don’t understand this contract, though. He signed a minor league deal worth 2M plus incentives?

Is that even allowed? Does that count towards lux tax (not sure it matters for the Rangers, but I am curious about the “legalities” of the signing).