Cris Carter Admits Cheating

[darken65]

It still can't be regulated even if there's a bounty. The bounty itself can be punished, but the intent to injure cannot.

Explain why the Saints were punished by the NFL with your understanding of this thought.

 

[sonnyblack65]

It still can't be regulated even if there's a bounty. The bounty itself can be punished, but the intent to injure cannot.

I pay Rocco to whack you. He fails and gets pinched, I go to prison for the hit and Rocco is set free, even though his intent was to paste your azz. Makes perfect sense

 

[NinerSickness]

I pay Rocco to whack you. He fails and gets pinched, I go to prison for the hit and Rocco is set free, even though his intent was to paste your azz. Makes perfect sense

Court of law =/= the NFL.

 

[RoboticDreams]

It still can't be regulated even if there's a bounty. The bounty itself can be punished, but the intent to injure cannot.

You seem to be hung up on whether something can be regulated vs whether or not it is cheating. If you think hurting the opponents player doesn't offer a competitive advantage I have to disagree with you. We can argue semantics or you can offer some sort of ethical loophole as to why it's not cheating and my opinion will not change. Obviously yours won't either.

 

[NinerSickness]

If you think hurting the opponents player doesn't offer a competitive advantage I have to disagree with you.

I don't disagree with that part at all. I disagree with the notion that paying a player after he injures another creates a competitive advantage.

I completely agree it's wrong and horrible, but it doesn't give one team an advantage over another team like deflating footballs does or taking PEDs.

 

[RoboticDreams]

I don't disagree with that part at all. I disagree with the notion that paying a player after he injures another creates a competitive advantage.

I completely agree it's wrong and horrible, but it doesn't give one team an advantage over another team like deflating footballs does or taking PEDs.

So then if the player was paid before he actually injured the other teams player, you'd then believe a competitive advantage was gained? That defeats the entire purpose of having a bounty. Payment on delivery.

If he is paid for the bounty before the game but does not deliver then obviously no edge is gained. If he does hurt the player then an advantage is gained.

 

[Lakers+USC=#1]

Lol at people who think bounties are cheating.

Patriots fans and apologists are trying too hard.

 

[NinerSickness]

So then if the player was paid before he actually injured the other teams player, you'd then believe a competitive advantage was gained? That defeats the entire purpose of having a bounty. Payment on delivery.

If he is paid for the bounty before the game but does not deliver then obviously no edge is gained. If he does hurt the player then an advantage is gained.

What I'm saying is that payment itself, regardless of when it happens, doesn't make one team more capable of hurting the other team than the other.

 

[Southieinnc]

Players hit each other with the intent of hurting someone every single play. What you're saying is that paying a guy for it gives a team an advantage; it doesn't. The referees will call hits either legal or illegal. And an illegal hit isn't cheating either! Just like being off sides isn't cheating.

Cheating means you've done something to get a competitive advantage the other team doesn't have. Putting money on something doesn't give one team an advantage. It's illegal and should be punished, but the integrity of the game isn't effected.

This is like coaches betting money against each other on who's going to win the game. It's against the rules, but it's not cheating. Deflating footballs is cheating.

Nobody deflated any footballs.....

 

[Gooch1034]

What I'm saying is that payment itself, regardless of when it happens, doesn't make one team more capable of hurting the other team than the other.

They don't get the money unless they hurt someone.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Lol at people who think bounties are cheating.

Patriots fans and apologists are trying too hard.

Lol @ people who think it isn't cheating. Though I admit, it may be a stretch to claim those people are capable of thinking rationally.

 

[NinerSickness]

Lol @ people who think it isn't cheating. Though I admit, it may be a stretch to claim those people are capable of thinking rationally.

Having a bounty is not cheating in the sense that it gives a team a competitive advantage like PEDs or deflating footballs does. It's just as serious an issue (or more so), but it's not the same thing.

 

[Bunkamania]

This article is 3 years old.

I guess in the next thread we will be discussing Lyle Alzado's steroid allegations?

 

[packerzrule]

 

[Southieinnc]

I don't disagree with that part at all. I disagree with the notion that paying a player after he injures another creates a competitive advantage.

I completely agree it's wrong and horrible, but it doesn't give one team an advantage over another team like deflating footballs does or taking PEDs.

JDM? Is that you?????

 

[Money]

This article is 3 years old.

I guess in the next thread we will be discussing Lyle Alzado's steroid allegations?

Deflection is a wonderful thing.

 

[PatsFan2003]

Lol at people who think bounties are cheating.

Patriots fans and apologists are trying too hard.

Right. From the always sacred "Integrity of the game" viewpoint, it's worse than cheating.

 

[jeffro151]

This, upon many other things, is why I consider Randy Moss, and not Cris whiny ass Carter, the best Vikings WR of all time.

 

[ducky]

Explain why the Saints were punished by the NFL with your understanding of this thought.

Bountygate and Deflategate aren't the same thing.

Saint's were punished because:

1) Bounties violate NFL cap rules.
2) Bounties are a serious violation of player safety.

They were not punished because it gave them a competitive advantage.

Everyone knows that player's try to knock the opponent's QB out of the game every chance they get. They just can't say they do and they most certainly can't get encouraged to do it and financially rewarded if they do.

 

[Southieinnc]

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