Creationism debate!

[cincygrad]

I was born and raised Christian, but find this statement extremely hard to believe or endorse.

I mean I suppose if we ignore ALL OF HISTORY we can claim that Christians are low on the intolerance totem pole. And I suppose if we don't consider murder and persecution intolerance, than we can completely endorse such a statement.

 

[geneh_33]

 

[kramer1]

:admin:

You're in my world now, bitch.

 

[geneh_33]

You're in my world now, bitch.

I'll let you guys continue your Darwinist pep rally.

The other threads are much more informative and entertaining. Have at it.

 

[cincygrad]

I'll let you guys continue your Darwinist pep rally.

The other threads are much more informative and entertaining. Have at it.

What are you talking about?

 

[cincygrad]

Crap. The new creationists will be here soon..... They're worse than Nebraska fans.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I mean I suppose if we ignore ALL OF HISTORY we can claim that Christians are low on the intolerance totem pole. And I suppose if we don't consider murder and persecution intolerance, than we can completely endorse such a statement.

And here-in lay the issue of that thought: Everyone assumes that because Christians went to war over something that it was immediately because of their belief, or that God wanted them to do so. In the case of the Bible, there are many examples of this, but throughout history, man has abused this front to cause war for personal gain aside from God's desire. Good luck sorting that pile out to find actual blame on Christians.

If it wasn't religion, it would have been some other excuse to cause war. Religion was just the easiest/most convenient way to take something and not have to accept blame for it.

 

[Cincyfan78]

LOL @ being a Christian and being pro-science at the same time. You nutbars can't have it both ways. Either you believe in your god and his word or you don't. Shit or get off the pot.

Kramer, you can absolutely be both.

You can believe that God created thw world, and man, and also created creatures to evolve and adapt to their surroundings.

Just because you believe in science (which is nothing more than testing abstract theories) does not mean you can't believe that there is a God that has the master design of how everything works.

 

[DanBengalfan]

I actually was conflicted about it for awhile when I was studying to be a better evangelist I watched hours of creationists videos and even thought for awhile that perhaps I had discovered a conspiracy. Not having made up my mind yet I studied the rebuttal to all of Kent Hovind's creationist videos which are popular with home schoolers (I guess they want them to flunk the science portion of the ACT or SAT when they grow up). The rebuttals to the Hovind videos were very informative and well supported.... so I looked for the creationist rebuttal to those rebuttals and there weren't any, eventually the creationists just throw up their hands and say "but god could have performed a miracle to make it look that way when in fact it doesn't look that way." It's just insane. No, I haven't given up on Jesus. Just delusional people like Ken Hamm who wants my money and Kent Hovind who won't pay his taxes.

 

[HuskerCradle2Grave]

Crap. The new creationists will be here soon..... They're worse than Nebraska fans.

Go fuck yourself...

 

[Cincyfan78]

I actually was conflicted about it for awhile when I was studying to be a better evangelist I watched hours of creationists videos and even thought for awhile that perhaps I had discovered a conspiracy. Not having made up my mind yet I studied the rebuttal to all of Kent Hovind's creationist videos which are popular with home schoolers (I guess they want them to flunk the science portion of the ACT or SAT when they grow up). The rebuttals to the Hovind videos were very informative and well supported.... so I looked for the creationist rebuttal to those rebuttals and there weren't any, eventually the creationists just throw up their hands and say "but god could have performed a miracle to make it look that way when in fact it doesn't look that way." It's just insane. No, I haven't given up on Jesus. Just delusional people like Ken Hamm who wants my money and Kent Hovind who won't pay his taxes.

I'm with you. As a believer, I really don't care how old the Earth is.

I always say, I think it's older than the 6K that Hamm and others are saying, but I'm also not 100% sold on the fact that it's billions and billions, either. I think the answer is somewhere in the middle.

Also, how old the Earth is does not effect what I believe. God is God whether the Earth is 6B or 6K.

Though, if you solely believe in evolution, and at some point the Earth is proved to be much younger than what they are saying, then their whole theory falls apart.

 

[DanBengalfan]

well, geology and astronomy elude to the age of the earth, so it's not just fossil evidence there.

 

[cincygrad]

Go fuck yourself...

Caught one!

 

[Cincyfan78]

Caught one!

Nice job....lol