Commanders News thread

[Skin'EmAll]

That's how we playing it? Got it.

 

[Rowdy]

I don’t think Higgins is worth it. I’d rather draft or sign a cheaper one in fa

 

[gkekoa]

I don’t think Higgins is worth it. I’d rather draft or sign a cheaper one in fa

What production would be worth it?

 

[Rowdy]

What production would be worth it?

Honestly haven’t studied Higgins, but from a far I see a wr who’s injured often, and a number two on the bengals.

 

[gkekoa]

Honestly haven’t studied Higgins, but from a far I see a wr who’s injured often, and a number two on the bengals.

Tee is injured sometimes but some of that may have to do with the contract, I believe.

Every WR in the league would be number two on the Bengals. I have shown what he does without Chase in the game…and I even showed what he does without Chase and Burrow.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Eh clearly the Skins forum is just too next level for me. I apologize for show

Tee is injured sometimes but some of that may have to do with the contract, I believe.

Every WR in the league would be number two on the Bengals. I have shown what he does without Chase in the game…and I even showed what he does without Chase and Burrow.

lol, so you want to pay a guy for pouting and not trying because he doesn't have a contract (since when has that worked out? lol). And no shit every WR would be #2 in Cincy... and Tee would be #2 on half the other NFL teams.. just to name a few off hand: San Fran, Seattle, Arizona, Detroit, Baltimore, Dallas, Minny, Atlanta, New York G, New York J, Philly, Cleveland, etc.

Don't get me wrong, Tee Higgins for a 5 year $75-90M or so? Great. 5 year $150M? LMFAO

 

[Stymietee]

This team can no longer afford to take a "Let's see what we have" position. They have the QB and likely two years to do something meaningful with him on that rookie deal.
By my count they have $103,869,637 in cap space for the 2025 season. They also have (after the Latimore trade) the following picks in the draft.

• First round
• Second round
• Third round
• Fifth round
• Seventh round
• Seventh round
• Seventh round

2025 will be a "go for it year," especially after this year where they appear to have fallen far shorter than they potentially could have gotten with some timely additions. ( No they didn't exceed expectations)

 

[skinsdad62]

This team can no longer afford to take a "Let's see what we have" position. They have the QB and likely two years to do something meaningful with him on that rookie deal.
By my count they have $103,869,637 in cap space for the 2025 season. They also have (after the Latimore trade) the following picks in the draft.

• First round
• Second round
• Third round
• Fifth round
• Seventh round
• Seventh round
• Seventh round

2025 will be a "go for it year," especially after this year where they appear to have fallen far shorter than they potentially could have gotten with some timely additions. ( No they didn't exceed expectations)

I would say 2025 will be a go for it year if they are in position to do so , Jayden’s contract isn’t going to be an issue if you draft well and make timely additions, , the chiefs do this as do the eagles

 

[Skin'EmAll]

Honestly haven’t studied Higgins, but from a far I see a wr who’s injured often, and a number two on the

I don’t think Higgins is worth it. I’d rather draft or sign a cheaper one in fa

I don’t think Higgins is worth it. I’d rather draft or sign a cheaper one in fa

Thats cool, who do you have in mind? There is a risk you sign someone cheaper with much less talent. Just keep in mind, Justin, Jamaar, Amron, Kittle, DHop all have gotten hurt where they missed multiple games. If that's a reason to run away from talent...i dunno boss. Also, currently i haven't read anywhere Higgins won't sign unless its 30 mil if he's a FA next year

 

[Skin'EmAll]

This team can no longer afford to take a "Let's see what we have" position. They have the QB and likely two years to do something meaningful with him on that rookie deal.
By my count they have $103,869,637 in cap space for the 2025 season. They also have (after the Latimore trade) the following picks in the draft.

• First round
• Second round
• Third round
• Fifth round
• Seventh round
• Seventh round
• Seventh round

2025 will be a "go for it year," especially after this year where they appear to have fallen far shorter than they potentially could have gotten with some timely additions. ( No they didn't exceed expectations)

Totally agree, and the pre season prediction thread is proof I'm with you. I respect the 7 wins guess but we did that with total dysfunction. To only win 7 this year would have in reality been a huge fail. I honestly just don't understand, if the deal is worth it, based on where we could go next season, you make it. If Lattimore is an all pro next year, no one would give a crap we lost a 3rd Joe. Im not paying these players outta my pocket, i think these billionaires got it covered

 

[Stymietee]

I would say 2025 will be a go for it year if they are in position to do so , Jayden’s contract isn’t going to be an issue if you draft well and make timely additions, , the chiefs do this as do the eagles

No sir, that whole "will be" and "if" thing doesn't make sense. At minimum this is an 8 win team this year, which generally represents one that is playoff adjacent, and looking to become a contender for the wildcard. If they get to 10 and make the playoffs this year, that next step becomes the division title with an eye on the conference title. Conference titles means SB participants. These used to be lofty goals, but this roster was built to compete, this roster has those possibilities already in place, this roster has played to its potential without the needed additions that could have made them stronger. Despite early predictions of 7 games or less, how at this this point anyone can doubt those facts befuddles me. They are not over-achievers, nor are they "ahead of schedule" or any of that foolishness. They are exactly what they were envisioned to be by some here, where this management group, its coaching staff and the players knew they they could be.
"You are what your record says you are”__Bill Parcells.

"Goals and expectations go hand in hand"__Sty

 

[gkekoa]

Eh clearly the Skins forum is just too next level for me. I apologize for show


lol, so you want to pay a guy for pouting and not trying because he doesn't have a contract (since when has that worked out? lol). And no shit every WR would be #2 in Cincy... and Tee would be #2 on half the other NFL teams.. just to name a few off hand: San Fran, Seattle, Arizona, Detroit, Baltimore, Dallas, Minny, Atlanta, New York G, New York J, Philly, Cleveland, etc.

Don't get me wrong, Tee Higgins for a 5 year $75-90M or so? Great. 5 year $150M? LMFAO

Maybe it is too next level for you.

Define pouting and “working out”.

You can’t use the “Tee is a number 2 in Cincy“ argument against him and then acknowledge every receiver is a 2 in Cincy as a dismissive statement.

Tee would be the number one WR on every team you just mentioned except Detroit, Dallas, and Minnesota.

So you think 15 million for 65 YPG and .44 TDs per game is the going rate? Let me give you the 15 million range people…Brandon Cooks at 20 mil, Dionte Johnson at 18, Christian Kirk at 18, Jerry Judy at 17.5, Courtland Sutton at 15, and Tyler Lockett at 15.

In a couple of years, 30 mil is going to be a freaking bargain, especially when they put a QB cap in place. The most reasonable comparison you can make is Jaylen Waddle who comes in at over 28 mil per season as he is a number 2 on that team and is less productive than Tee Higgins.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Maybe it is too next level for you.

Define pouting and “working out”.

You can’t use the “Tee is a number 2 in Cincy“ argument against him and then acknowledge every receiver is a 2 in Cincy as a dismissive statement.

Tee would be the number one WR on every team you just mentioned except Detroit, Dallas, and Minnesota.

So you think 15 million for 65 YPG and .44 TDs per game is the going rate? Let me give you the 15 million range people…Brandon Cooks at 20 mil, Dionte Johnson at 18, Christian Kirk at 18, Jerry Judy at 17.5, Courtland Sutton at 15, and Tyler Lockett at 15.

In a couple of years, 30 mil is going to be a freaking bargain, especially when they put a QB cap in place. The most reasonable comparison you can make is Jaylen Waddle who comes in at over 28 mil per season as he is a number 2 on that team and is less productive than Tee Higgins.

mmmmmz... you make good points gkekoa... maybe that is the going rate for a guy that is a borderline #1 (IMO).

 

[skinsdad62]

Maybe it is too next level for you.

Define pouting and “working out”.

You can’t use the “Tee is a number 2 in Cincy“ argument against him and then acknowledge every receiver is a 2 in Cincy as a dismissive statement.

Tee would be the number one WR on every team you just mentioned except Detroit, Dallas, and Minnesota.

So you think 15 million for 65 YPG and .44 TDs per game is the going rate? Let me give you the 15 million range people…Brandon Cooks at 20 mil, Dionte Johnson at 18, Christian Kirk at 18, Jerry Judy at 17.5, Courtland Sutton at 15, and Tyler Lockett at 15.

In a couple of years, 30 mil is going to be a freaking bargain, especially when they put a QB cap in place. The most reasonable comparison you can make is Jaylen Waddle who comes in at over 28 mil per season as he is a number 2 on that team and is less productive than Tee Higgins.

you are right about 30 mil being a bargain in a few years just like qb salaries did in the KC era

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Rowdy]

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Maybe it is too next level for you.

Define pouting and “working out”.

You can’t use the “Tee is a number 2 in Cincy“ argument against him and then acknowledge every receiver is a 2 in Cincy as a dismissive statement.

Tee would be the number one WR on every team you just mentioned except Detroit, Dallas, and Minnesota.

So you think 15 million for 65 YPG and .44 TDs per game is the going rate? Let me give you the 15 million range people…Brandon Cooks at 20 mil, Dionte Johnson at 18, Christian Kirk at 18, Jerry Judy at 17.5, Courtland Sutton at 15, and Tyler Lockett at 15.

In a couple of years, 30 mil is going to be a freaking bargain, especially when they put a QB cap in place. The most reasonable comparison you can make is Jaylen Waddle who comes in at over 28 mil per season as he is a number 2 on that team and is less productive than Tee Higgins.

like Sutton at 15

 

[gkekoa]

mmmmmz... you make good points gkekoa... maybe that is the going rate for a guy that is a borderline #1 (IMO).

TY for the honesty. For the record, I don’t think anybody is banging on the floor demanding he is a sure top 5 WR. As a matter of fact, I have him at 18 all things considered.

 

[gkekoa]

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like Sutton at 15

Yeah but he signed that back in 2021and is a FA after 2025, and he will be 30. This is also his best season since 2019 by a long shot. Give me Tee all day, everyday over Sutton.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

TY for the honesty. For the record, I don’t think anybody is banging on the floor demanding he is a sure top 5 WR. As a matter of fact, I have him at 18 all things considered.

I mean I still think $30M is a bit ridiculous, but who knows where it'll be next year. There's only a handful of receivers making that (Lamb, Aiyuk, Jefferson, Brown, and Adams). MOST #1 receivers are in the $25M range it seems. But Lamb, Aiyuk, and Jefferson were the recent signings...

Anyway, to your point, someone will probably pay it. I think the Skins can do better though. A lot of players want to play for the Skins. I wouldn't be surprised if the Skins snag Higgins for a 4 year $100M deal ($25M per). McLaurin is also due and going to be looking for a contract. Is it worth moving on from him to snag Higgins? I mean Tee is 4 years younger... that deserves a premium.

Honest question for you @gkekoa , would you rather have Higgins or Metcalf (who may also shop around)?

 

[skinsdad62]