Commanders News thread

[duke1861]

We have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. We have a rookie QB starting his 8th NFL game. He came into training camp and cracked the whip. Howell led the league in passing last week and has had MULTIPLE 300 yard games... EB's taken lemons and made lemonade. If you cant see it, I'm not sure what to tell you

Okie dokie...

 

[chillerdab]

I think EB has done well, and thus if the GM that we hire hires a head coach who wants to retain EB, or if EB is hired as the head coach by the GM, then I’d be absoluythrilled with that plan.

 

[kbso83432]

 

[j_y19]

Just promote EB... I couldn't care less who makes the decision.

It’s EBs to lose. But take the full year to evaluate. I hope he gets it so there is continuity for Howell.

 

[kbso83432]

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[redskinsfan1963]

at least one washington player has a shot at the pro bowl.

 

[duke1861]

at least one washington player has a shot at the pro bowl.

If Howell is 2nd in passing yards in the nfl, would he not make the pro bowl?

 

[skinsdad62]

if the new GM goes through a complete interview process and he determines EB is the guy then i am all for it . its a big no if the new gm has to take EB and its not his choice

 

[PDay8810]

If Howell is 2nd in passing yards in the nfl, would he not make the pro bowl?

why not

the yards tell the whole story

 

[duke1861]

if the new GM goes through a complete interview process and he determines EB is the guy then i am all for it . its a big no if the new gm has to take EB and its not his choice

My thoughts exactly.

I dont want harris jumping in and making a habit of calling the shots.
We need the GM in place shortly after Black Monday so that the coach can be selected. If it is EB, great. If not, I am fine as well. I don't think EB should hold the organization hostage as has been suggested.

I disagree with Brock and dean that EB is the new coach period and that Harris needs to make the call as soon as the season ends. Dean still believes rivera might be here in 2024. Brock wants EB promoted by harris. He doesn't want the GM making the coaching decision. That's fine, but I am not suffering through snyder 2.0...and I doubt fans would. To run snyder off and want the new owner to be a duplicate of snyder makes no sense to me. Oh well...

I agree with harris and owners and Chen giving orders to Rivera to trade young and sweat because it was a 2024 move. They knew that Rivera would likely not be here in 2024 so they stepped in and made a one time call in my opinion.

 

[duke1861]

why not

the yards tell the whole story

Its the Tale of Two Cities with Howell.

I keep seeing stats pop up about yardage, TDs, league leading stats, etc.

This is a good thing and shows growth and development. Howell very well could be the future qb. Nothing seems to say he isn't at this point. More is needed in my opinion.

The other side of the coin brings balance I feel.

We are only averaging 2 more points a game from what turner and Falco gave us. We are 18th in the league in scoring. That is in the bottom half. That is not good.

CBS sports line just brought up their offensive rookie of the year candidates. Howell wasn't even top 3. It is an opinion piece obviously, but it shows that the entire world doesn't believe Howell is there just yet.

We can talk about yardage and bring up other obscure facts to push the Howell and EB agenda. The bottom line is scoring and wins.
Again, we are 18th in the league in scoring and 4-5 currently. More time is needed before branding EB the next Andy Reid and Sam howell as the next Dan Marino.

I am sure this response will draw the wrath of some, but it is what is.

This was always a transition year.
EB is maturing and doing well
Howell is developing

 

[deanpet21]

My thoughts exactly.

I dont want harris jumping in and making a habit of calling the shots.
We need the GM in place shortly after Black Monday so that the coach can be selected. If it is EB, great. If not, I am fine as well. I don't think EB should hold the organization hostage as has been suggested.

I disagree with Brock and dean that EB is the new coach period and that Harris needs to make the call as soon as the season ends. Dean still believes rivera might be here in 2024. Brock wants EB promoted by harris. He doesn't want the GM making the coaching decision. That's fine, but I am not suffering through snyder 2.0...and I doubt fans would. To run snyder off and want the new owner to be a duplicate of snyder makes no sense to me. Oh well...

I agree with harris and owners and Chen giving orders to Rivera to trade young and sweat because it was a 2024 move. They knew that Rivera would likely not be here in 2024 so they stepped in and made a one time call in my opinion.

wait a minute. If Howell ends the season as a top 5-10 QB then I would not want to breakup Howell and EB. That was my point. IF EB gets offered a HC job Harris might have to step in if he doesn't have his GM in place yet to retain EB from leaving. IF EB doesn't get offered a HC position, he is still under contract with us for 2024 and winning a playoff game RR could be retained. If we lose the next 8 games and Howell faulters, then yes, a full house cleaning will happen.

 

[duke1861]

wait a minute. If Howell ends the season as a top 5-10 QB then I would not want to breakup Howell and EB. That was my point. IF EB gets offered a HC job Harris might have to step in if he doesn't have his GM in place yet to retain EB from leaving. IF EB doesn't get offered a HC position, he is still under contract with us for 2024 and winning a playoff game RR could be retained. If we lose the next 8 games and Howell faulters, then yes, a full house cleaning will happen.

And you are proving my point. I don't want harris making knee jerk reaction decisions like snyder would.

You just said firing Rivera mid-season is what snyder would do and should be avoided. Now you are saying harris needs to do just that? You aren't making any sense.
Why not just fire Rivera now and promote EB if you are scared of losing him? You didn't want to do that because that is what snyder would do. Forcing a HC on a GM is snyder 101 Dean. Pick a lane.

I don't care if Howell has top 5 or 10 stats...if we still are bottom half in the league in scoring, who cares? We average 21 points a game and have played some of the worst teams in the league. We are only averaging 2 points more than Turner/wentz did.

You mean to tell me that EB is the best OC in the game? How do you know that Ken dorsey, Ben Johnson, and Ben Johnson couldn't score more or get more out of Howell? They are running better offenses currently.

Stop panicking. And if rivers is retained, then harris is a fool and bezos should have bought the team. Rivera is awful and everyone knows that except you. Why keep a coach who has 1 playoff win in 4 years? Only a lost franchise would do that. You aren't making sense and letting your predictions and pride guide you.

The fact that you don't see that a full house cleaning is needed is pure ignorance. You honestly think Jason Wright and Rivera need to be retained. Stop being a homer.

 

[deanpet21]

And you are proving my point. I don't want harris making knee jerk reaction decisions like snyder would.

You just said firing Rivera mid-season is what snyder would do and should be avoided. Now you are saying harris needs to do just that? You aren't making any sense.
Why not just fire Rivera now and promote EB if you are scared of losing him? You didn't want to do that because that is what snyder would do. Forcing a HC on a GM is snyder 101 Dean. Pick a lane.

I don't care if Howell has top 5 or 10 stats...if we still are bottom half in the league in scoring, who cares? We average 21 points a game and have played some of the worst teams in the league. We are only averaging 2 points more than Turner/wentz did.

You mean to tell me that EB is the best OC in the game? How do you know that Ken dorsey, Ben Johnson, and Ben Johnson couldn't score more or get more out of Howell? They are running better offenses currently.

Stop panicking. And if rivers is retained, then harris is a fool and bezos should have bought the team. Rivera is awful and everyone knows that except you. Why keep a coach who has 1 playoff win in 4 years? Only a lost franchise would do that. You aren't making sense and letting your predictions and pride guide you.

The fact that you don't see that a full house cleaning is needed is pure ignorance. You honestly think Jason Wright and Rivera need to be retained. Stop being a homer.

what? when did i say fire RR mid season? I said RR could be retained. i said i would not want to break up Howell and EB if Howell plays well. Pick what lane? I already told you what could happen. Its possible we could fire RR at the end of the season even though we win this year to retain EB if he gets offered a HC job. Its too early to tell right now. It depends how we finish the season. I agree with Brock that Eb should be retained if Howell plays well.

When you say full house cleaning you mean everyone RR, JDR, MM, JW, EB and look for a new QB? If we win this year and win a playoff game, I dont think that happens. I said that in my hypothecial.

 

[Rowdy]

Its the Tale of Two Cities with Howell.

I keep seeing stats pop up about yardage, TDs, league leading stats, etc.

This is a good thing and shows growth and development. Howell very well could be the future qb. Nothing seems to say he isn't at this point. More is needed in my opinion.

The other side of the coin brings balance I feel.

We are only averaging 2 more points a game from what turner and Falco gave us. We are 18th in the league in scoring. That is in the bottom half. That is not good.

CBS sports line just brought up their offensive rookie of the year candidates. Howell wasn't even top 3. It is an opinion piece obviously, but it shows that the entire world doesn't believe Howell is there just yet.

We can talk about yardage and bring up other obscure facts to push the Howell and EB agenda. The bottom line is scoring and wins.
Again, we are 18th in the league in scoring and 4-5 currently. More time is needed before branding EB the next Andy Reid and Sam howell as the next Dan Marino.

I am sure this response will draw the wrath of some, but it is what is.

This was always a transition year.
EB is maturing and doing well
Howell is developing

I wouldn’t think Howell would even qualify for a ROY seeing how he’s in his second year

 

[duke1861]

what? when did i say fire RR mid season? I said RR could be retained. i said i would not want to break up Howell and EB if Howell plays well. Pick what lane? I already told you what could happen. Its possible we could fire RR at the end of the season even though we win this year to retain EB if he gets offered a HC job. Its too early to tell right now. It depends how we finish the season. I agree with Brock that Eb should be retained if Howell plays well.

When you say full house cleaning you mean everyone RR, JDR, MM, JW, EB and look for a new QB? If we win this year and win a playoff game, I dont think that happens. I said that in my hypothecial.

You didn't say Rivera should be fired mid-season. You said that is what snyder would do by getting involved.

To clarify, if harris was to get involved, be the GM, and hire a HC, that is exactly what snyder did and would do.

In other words, you saying that harris should not fire Rivera mid season because snyder would do that, then you said harris should promote/hire EB as head coach.

Do you not see how that doesn't make sense? Firing a coach mid-season is out of line, but hiring a head coach without a GM is fine? That is how snyder ran then organization and apparently you are fine with that approach. Hence..pick a lane...either harris should or should not act like snyder.

You didn't answer my question as usual. Could Johnson, dorsey or Moore do a better job than EB?

I am worried about the overall offensive production more than just Sam howell. That is where I disagree with you and Brock. It's doesnt make sense to ignore the entire big picture. You are applauding the fact that EB could hold the organization hostage. Congrats!

Full front office house cleaning yes. It sux Dean. Never said anything about a qb?
Yes, if Rivera is fired, his coaches would go as well. The new HC could rehire some if wishes. That is his call.
I hope you are wrong as usual. A single playoff win doesn't erase the overall poor job Rivera has done. You don't see that because you are being ignorant and you support rivera.

 

[duke1861]

I wouldn’t think Howell would even qualify for a ROY seeing how he’s in his second year

Good point...you are right. My mistake.

 

[deanpet21]

You didn't say Rivera should be fired mid-season. You said that is what snyder would do by getting involved.

To clarify, if harris was to get involved, be the GM, and hire a HC, that is exactly what snyder did and would do.

In other words, you saying that harris should not fire Rivera mid season because snyder would do that, then you said harris should promote/hire EB as head coach.

Do you not see how that doesn't make sense? Firing a coach mid-season is out of line, but hiring a head coach without a GM is fine? That is how snyder ran then organization and apparently you are fine with that approach. Hence..pick a lane...either harris should or should not act like snyder.

You didn't answer my question as usual. Could Johnson, doresey or Moore do a better job than EB?

I am worried about the overall offensive production more than just Sam howell. That is where I disagree with you and Brock. It's doesnt make sense to ignore the entire big picture.

Full front office house cleaning yes. It sux Dean.
Yes, if Rivera is fired, his coaches would go as well. The new HC could rehire some if wishes. That is his call.
I hope you are wrong as usual. A single playoff win doesn't erase the overall poor job Rivera has done. You don't see that because you are being ignorant and you support rivera.

its not that simple. It's useless to talk about this now b.c the season is not over yet. I wouldn't take the chance on another coach if Howell does well with EB. You're making up your mind not knowing how the season will play out. Which is fine, thats your point of view. Brock and I agree that if Howell does well here, we shouldn't lose EB. If Harris sees winning and Howell do well with EB I dont think he will break that up. Im being ignorant? lol

 

[duke1861]

its not that simple. It's useless to talk about this now b.c the season is not over yet. I wouldn't take the chance on another coach if Howell does well with EB. You're making up your mind not knowing how the season will play out. Which is fine, thats your point of view. Brock and I agree that if Howell does well here, we shouldn't lose EB. If Harris sees winning and Howell do well with EB I dont think he will break that up. Im being ignorant? lol

How have I made up my mind?
It is very simple.

Harris hires a GM
The GM makes the decision period.

I have said that if the GM hires EB...great. How is that complicated?

The season was always a transition year. You are the only one who doesn't get that. You are literally the only one with a hypothetical for Rivera to stay. Rivera must go period...I don't care what else happens. Rivera should have already been fired.

I don't care what you are Brock think because it's wrong. Brock said he doesn't want the GM to even hire the coach. Apparently the snyder years showed him nothing. That is his business.

You are celebrating the 18th overall offense in the NFL and already have crowned EB as the best head coach...congrats! I don't know who our next HC should be because the GM makes that decision.

If Harris is going to be Daniel snyder and mingle in every aspect of the team and act as his own GM...fans will leave...and I will be one of them. I can't believe that you want an owner like snyder again.

You are being ignorant and you know it. You literally make no sense with your predictions and hypothetical. What's new...

You literally have no clue how good organizations are run do you?