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to add one more thing.

currently, arkansas doesn't have a chance to play for the national championship at #3.

Yes, and that is why people complain about the BCS. So shouldn't the solution fix that. Instead you're giving 30 more teams a chance at the National Title, and NONE of them are the 3rd best team in the country.

Yeah, you fixed it. smh
 

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do u know how to read english?

32 teams go into a conf playoff. 4 for each conf. the ultimate goal is to determine who the best team is. if arkansas cannot win the sec title, they are not the best team. currently being #3 does them nothing when it comes to the national championship in my system or the bcs system.

at least teams get to play for it instead of allowing voters and computers to do it.

looking at the current standings this what the 8 teams would look like ranked by bcs(assuming notre dame enters the big east which they've been rumored to do for a few years now anyways)

lsu
oklahoma state
virginia tech
stanford
houston
michigan state
tcu
notre dame

alabama has already lost to lsu. they'd have another crack at them in the sec playoffs. in the case of arkansas, i doubt they have a chance against lsu, they won't be #3 for long. boise state has already lost to tcu, again they'd have another crack at them in the playoffs. oklahoma and oregan would still have playoff games in their conf as well.

basically every damn team has a shot at the national championship. first they need to play well in the regular season. win a 4 team conf playoff. then win 4 games against other conf champions.

under the bcs. 5 teams with 1 loss and an undefeated team are left out in the cold with no chance because some computer spit out alabama as the #2. thank you for playing bcs bingo
 

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I hate the current BCS. They need to improve the formula that determines rank. How, I don't know, but I am sure some smart statisticians know what to do to improve it.

maybe they can use the smart statisticians that used to work at lehman brothers
 

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do u know how to read english?

32 teams go into a conf playoff. 4 for each conf. the ultimate goal is to determine who the best team is. if arkansas cannot win the sec title, they are not the best team. currently being #3 does them nothing when it comes to the national championship in my system or the bcs system.

at least teams get to play for it instead of allowing voters and computers to do it.

looking at the current standings this what the 8 teams would look like ranked by bcs(assuming notre dame enters the big east which they've been rumored to do for a few years now anyways)

lsu
oklahoma state
virginia tech
stanford
houston
michigan state
tcu
notre dame

alabama has already lost to lsu. they'd have another crack at them in the sec playoffs. in the case of arkansas, i doubt they have a chance against lsu, they won't be #3 for long. boise state has already lost to tcu, again they'd have another crack at them in the playoffs. oklahoma and oregan would still have playoff games in their conf as well.

basically every damn team has a shot at the national championship. first they need to play well in the regular season. win a 4 team conf playoff. then win 4 games against other conf champions.

under the bcs. 5 teams with 1 loss and an undefeated team are left out in the cold with no chance because some computer spit out alabama as the #2. thank you for playing bcs bingo

I can read English. I have noticed you making subtle changes to your system throughout. It started out as a 16 team field with the potential to be 32. I pointed out the massive flaws in the 16 and now you've made it exclusively 32. Sometimes you refer to your final 8 as being the playoffs and the teams with a shot at the title, sometimes you refer to the 32.

Your system is stupid. I'm making a list of the top 100 most influential musicians in the last 100 years. However, only one person from a band can be on the list.

Sorry Beatles, only John or Paul can be in the top 100 most influential musicians list since you were both in the same band. Chad Kroger has a shot though. He deserves it more than Paul McCartney.

Get the fuck out of here with your silly little system.

UCLA being in the final 32 and Arkansas not being in the final 32 is retarded.
 

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i haven't changed anything outside of deciding 32 teams overal was better (gives about the same amount of games as the bowl system, which should equate to equal revenue). cutting off at 16 teams isn't a viable option because of revenue.

there are 3 main components that have not changed one bit
regular season
conf playoffs
8 team playoff for the national championship

who cares if arkansas doesn't get into the conf playoffs (maybe they should have beaten alabama). ucla will just get bounced anyways before they can sniff the final playoff brakcet just like arkansas would.

u say arkansas not being able to play for the conf title is retarded? well oklahoma state not being able to play for the national championship is retarded.
 

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i haven't changed anything outside of deciding 32 teams overal was better (gives about the same amount of games as the bowl system, which should equate to equal revenue). cutting off at 16 teams isn't a viable option because of revenue.

there are 3 main components that have not changed one bit
regular season
conf playoffs
8 team playoff for the national championship

who cares if arkansas doesn't get into the conf playoffs (maybe they should have beaten alabama). ucla will just get bounced anyways before they can sniff the final playoff brakcet just like arkansas would.

u say arkansas not being able to play for the conf title is retarded? well oklahoma state not being able to play for the national championship is retarded.

Can you read English? I say Arkansas not being able to play for the NATIONAL title, when UCLA can is retarded.

You say Arkansas should have beaten Alabama to deserve a shot at your system. Maybe Oklahoma State should have beaten Iowa State. What's more damning: a loss to Alabama, or a loss to Iowa State?

If UCLA is just going to get bounced anyway, why bother to include them? Why not make it a 4 team playoff?

You've come up with a system that is worse than the current one.

And seriously, revenue made you change your mind? Why didn't you say anything about it until now?
 

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i did say 2 maybe 4 teams. so....

u could go with a 32 team playoff bracket ranked by bcs. but imo a conf style setup, while it might exclude a team in a strong conf, would give much better match ups from a marketing perspective. lsu vs #32 or a #32 vs a conf rival?
 

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Yeah, LSU vs South Carolina is marketable this year.

How about Stanford Arizona State (since USC is inelligible right now)?

How about VaTech vs Wake Forrest in the ACC?
Louisville West Virginia?

Obviously the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and usually the PAC 12 will have marketable matchups. What about the other conferences? That's only half of your conferences.

You also haev to make each of those conferences bigger since you need to cram 120 teams into 8 conferences. What teams get added to the SEC? The Big 10? etc?

Your 5 vs 29 with the BCS ranking right now would be Oklahoma State vs Auburn.

Edit: That's according to the AP poll because I don't have the BCS beyond 25 actually.
 
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If we did a 32 team by the BCS we would have matchups like

Texas vs Houston
Oklahoma vs Auburn
South Carolina vs Nebraska
Georgia vs TCU
Michigan State vs Penn State
Michigan vs Baylor
Wisconsin vs Clemson

There's no storylines here though?
 

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what teams get added where isn't a concern for me. where arkansas state or navy goes doesn't really matter that much. it's the playoff format that is the key

and it's the conf finals that give the best match ups. and the lead up to them
 

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If it's the conference finals that give the best matchups, why bring up the 1 vs 32? If the top seeds were to win all games, you'd have the top 16 teams playing in the BCS tournament. In your conference tournament we'd have epic games like Stanford vs UCLA.

And it does matter where the Arkansas States etc end up.
 

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how the teams get put into divisions isn't my concern. that would be for the conferences and ncaa to figure out. they move teams around every year anyways
 

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as i said, arkansas is not the #3 team. thank you for playing
 

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Because they went into LSU and got blown out? Which team doesn't get blown out at LSU?

Are they better than UCLA?
 

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so u mean arkansas should go play for the pac 12 championship because they can't do it in the sec? makes sense. maybe last year an afc team shoulda went to the playoffs instead of seattle

the question isn't whether arkansas is better than ucla. it is whether arkansas can win the sec to move on.
 

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so u mean arkansas should go play for the pac 12 championship because they can't do it in the sec? makes sense. maybe last year an afc team shoulda went to the playoffs instead of seattle

the question isn't whether arkansas is better than ucla. it is whether arkansas can win the sec to move on.

If the goal is to have a tournament to win the national championship, then the best teams should be in the tournament. If you have UCLA in, you fucked up.

You forogt to answer the first question though.

Which team in college football this year goes into LSU and doesn't get blown out?
 

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That's a 5 week tournament. When does it start? Does the team at 32 really warrant a spot? That team would be Northern Illinois right now. Is there really a point in them playing LSU?

My tournament would start the same week the D3 tourney starts. If a team is ranked 32nd in my 32 team playoff, then yes they deserve that 32nd spot. If the team is ranked 32nd in my playoff bracket, then yes, there is a point in them playing LSU.

Do the math and you'll also see that my playoff system will probably mean less regular season games. Im fine with that. Lets face it, most teams put 3-4 cupcakes (sunbelt/mac/d1-aa) on their schedule anyway. So do away with those pointless games altogether.

My NIT style playoff for teams 33-48 would start the same week as well.
 
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