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Well, it was a good run, Ukraine. Goodbye.
 

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Don't count out a Measles - Polio - HPV trifecta parlay.
 

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Great article:


Could it be that Americans distrust a lot of these institutions because the non-stop message from the Republican party is that these institutions are not to be trusted? I think when you look at the worldwide picture, the incumbent governments in several nations that have had recent elections have been toppled (France, the UK, India, and South Africa just to name a few). Canada is likely next in 2025.

People are pissed because bottom line the economy is not great for the working class American and I totally get that. I really think America is just following what we are seeing in other parts of the world.
 
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Driving through West Virginia one time I see a guy stumbling down the road as I get closer to him he’s only wearing one shoe.

He hears my car so he turns and puts his thumb out and I thought what the hell I’ll give him a ride.

He gets in the car and I ask him where he’s going he says a few miles up the road. Told him don’t worry I’ll get you there. Besides I don’t want to see you walking and it looks like you have had such a rough day.

He looks at me and says what do you mean?

I said well hell it looks like you lost a shoe somewhere.

He turns to me with his big toothless grin and says “nope found one!!!”
 

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The original version of this joke when I heard it specified Newfoundland, but I think West Virginia applies:

Q. How do we know Jesus was not born in West Virginia?
A.. We couldn't find three wise men and a virgin.
 

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Could it be that Americans distrust a lot of these institutions because the non-stop message from the Republican party is that these institutions are not to be trusted? I think when you look at the worldwide picture, the incumbent governments in several nations that have had recent elections have been toppled (France, the UK, India, and South Africa just to name a few). Canada is likely next in 2025.

People are pissed because bottom line the economy is not great for the working class American and I totally get that. I really think America is just following what we are seeing in other parts of the world.
Ronnie Raygun ran and won on a platform of "the government is broken and can't be trusted - but I can fix it" and then got into power and made it exponentially worse to the benefit and glee of the rich and powerful. It's maddening to see people STILL falling for it. My parents were in their prime years during Reagan's era. Now their grandchildren are voting and the same schtick is still working. You would think that at some point, SOMEONE would have noticed that the culture war didn't fix anything and nothing trickled down but shit. But I guess in order to notice something like that, you have to look outside your favorite podcaster's bubble once in a while. And too many are unwilling to, because to them politics is sport or fandoms. I can't like that, because I said I like this. Nothing else matters as long as you are wearing the right color jersey at the final whistle. I actually like a lot of what Republicans claim to be for. More decisions in the hands of states. More accountability for how taxes are spent and giving people the control of how their taxes are spent. But what they say and what they produce are often miles apart.

And I would point out that while UK did topple their "establishment" government in a landslide it was only after the electorate was duped into a heavy right ideology and got their noses sliced off with Brexit. They believed the rhetoric (and a lot of the same "government's broken and only I can fix it" garbage) and every single British subject suffered greatly. This election was a manifestation of having learned that lesson.

US and Canada are just a decade or more behind and have some hard lessons to learn yet.
 

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Could it be that Americans distrust a lot of these institutions because the non-stop message from the Republican party is that these institutions are not to be trusted? I think when you look at the worldwide picture, the incumbent governments in several nations that have had recent elections have been toppled (France, the UK, India, and South Africa just to name a few). Canada is likely next in 2025.

People are pissed because bottom line the economy is not great for the working class American and I totally get that. I really think America is just following what we are seeing in other parts of the world.

And I would point out that while UK did topple their "establishment" government in a landslide it was only after the electorate was duped into a heavy right ideology and got their noses sliced off with Brexit. They believed the rhetoric (and a lot of the same "government's broken and only I can fix it" garbage) and every single British subject suffered greatly. This election was a manifestation of having learned that lesson.

US and Canada are just a decade or more behind and have some hard lessons to learn yet.
UK and Europe have seen the results they’re seeing almost entirely because of the migrant crisis. Support for immigration in Canada is under 50% for the first time since the early 20th century which would be incredibly hard to believe even a decade ago (and for the record I don’t think PP would do anything to meaningfully reduce immigration levels, the corpos love it too much).

And even though the UK tossed the Tories they more or less started switching to Farage and Reform more than voted in favour of Labour (and Starmer’s approval there has plummeted since the election. In the US there is majority support for at the very least some type of deportation program for illegal immigrants (polling question phrasing has kinda made that hard to narrow down but the sentiment seems clear).

A simple return to rational, moderated immigration policy would’ve avoided a lot of shit going on right now. These shifts may not stop until such a thing happens.
 
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