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Coffee Talk: 7 Words You Can't Say to Jack Johnson

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As soon as Trump is sentenced in New York.
It's not going to happen but can you imagine if Trump actually went to jail and JD Vance became president because of the 25th and then decides not to pardon him. That would be kind of glorious
 

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I’m trying to help break the echo chamber here… but you have no desire to read what I have to say. Sure, I can fuck off or put you on ignore, but that doesn’t fix the problem.

Here’s a good video breaking down Bernie’s letter that you probably don’t have the time to watch:

I have plenty of time, but is this video more of Bernie criticizing the left for not adopting ideas more left than the ones they can't get elected on?
 

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LOL - about .001 % of population?

One of my early career mentors had a sign in his office that said " Good leaders surround themselves with people who are smarter than them. Great leaders surround themselves with smarter people who disagree with them".
 

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One of my early career mentors had a sign in his office that said " Good leaders surround themselves with people who are smarter than them. Great leaders surround themselves with smarter people who disagree with them".

Sounds like a smart guy :thumb:
 

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Is something happening? I saw a tweet of one of Trumps big billionaire florida donors compound/estate being raided by fed agencies :think:

 

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Is something happening? I saw a tweet of one of Trumps big billionaire florida donors compound/estate being raided by fed agencies :think:

Could be something about the "record voter turn out" , but 18 million less Dem votes than last time.
Math doesn't quite check out there.
 

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Anchor babies? Their parents?

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Found a picture of Putin watching Democrats and Independents blaming each other for Trump winning

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I don't want to write a long page of text, but these are some of the main factors that I think contributed to Kamala losing:

1. Right wing propaganda machine is very powerful - You have Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh just to name a few but there are many others churning out content 24/7 and the left wing has nothing comparable to it.

2. Kamala was saddled with being linked to Biden and the anti-incumbency factor. People are pissed off about inflation and blame Biden and by default Kamala as she took over for Joe.

3. Linked to 2 above, Kamala didn't do enough to separate herself from Biden. I think the Muslin and Arab-Americans voters really despise Biden and Kamala for what is happening in the Middle East and they voted their displeasure.

4. A lot of Americans still don't want a woman to be president, let alone a woman of color.

I really don't think the Dems have forgotten about the working class when they're proposing free school lunches and expanding health care, but that message did not resonate with voters for some reason.
This is on a Union thread. There are valid points here and the one of note that is very important to understand. Trumps most effective ad campaign was the anti-trans and a lot of people bought into this culture war. So those folks really didn't change their vote because of the "economy" it was they were all afraid to turn gay or change their sex. :L



The thing with Bernie is he was very instrumental in the Biden presidency. He and Biden both literally stated this, and he was going to be on Biden's cabinet if they didn't deem him staying in the Senate was more important.
And as exit polls showed Biden's presidency was not very favorable? Why I have no clue, but there was a sense of distancing from Bernie with the hope it would attract the independents that "hate socialism". Was it the right strategy? Probably not, but I have a feeling those people who were never voting weren't coming no matter what. Voter apathy is a major issue in this country.
 

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This is on a Union thread. There are valid points here and the one of note that is very important to understand. Trumps most effective ad campaign was the anti-trans and a lot of people bought into this culture war. So those folks really didn't change their vote because of the "economy" it was they were all afraid to turn gay or change their sex. :L



The thing with Bernie is he was very instrumental in the Biden presidency. He and Biden both literally stated this, and he was going to be on Biden's cabinet if they didn't deem him staying in the Senate was more important.
And as exit polls showed Biden's presidency was not very favorable? Why I have no clue, but there was a sense of distancing from Bernie with the hope it would attract the independents that "hate socialism". Was it the right strategy? Probably not, but I have a feeling those people who were never voting weren't coming no matter what. Voter apathy is a major issue in this country.
That’s half the story, messaging and marketing. The Left sucks at it. Facts don’t matter to many voters, it’s how they feel that matters.

And no, the Democratic Party has shifted towards big money interests and away from the working class. There’s plenty of hard facts to back that up. There is brainwashing on all sides… and social media is for sure brain cancer to our youth (really everyone)… hell, I grew up poor with a single mom. She relied on government assistance, and was never really religious. Since 2016, she’s all in on weird conspiracy theories, cultish Christian influencers on YouTube, loves Trump, thinks Clinton’s and Obama’s drink children’s blood, the earth is flat. I love her, she means well, but she’s fucking nuts and drank the YouTube right wing koolaid.
 
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