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i am giving up draft picks and trading good young payers for as good or maybe better which the stats show is a lie . are we running a thrift shop or trying to win games . apparently 396 is running a thrift shop

So a 3rd round pick for a PRo Bowl QB bugs you? lol
 

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The RG3 trade was all Dan Synder and Shanny was partially on board. I agree with you on the bugled Shanny situation, AH signing but Shanny was calling the FA shots back then. So its not all on Allen. I thought SMGM was replaceable and did not have the impact on the draft like people thought
allen is snyder deanis and whether SMGM was replaceable isnt the issue , how it was handled was and shanny has come out and said he was against the trade in numerous interviews . and the evidence shows 396 was calling all the shots
 

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So a 3rd round pick for a PRo Bowl QB bugs you? lol
a 3rd round pick and a starting CB for alleged PB qb ( which apparently means something now but not when KC was a PB qb ) who is 34 coming off an outlier season who is 34 , yes it was stupid and only a 396 mouth piece would attempt to defend the steve deberg acquisition
 

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allen is snyder deanis and whether SMGM was replaceable isnt the issue , how it was handled was and shanny has come out and said he was against the trade in numerous interviews . and the evidence shows 396 was calling all the shots

You don't know if Synder was involved with the dismissal of SMGM. I don't believe Allen has 100% control without going to Synder. Shanny was against the extra 1st round pick we threw in the trade which turned out to be #2 overall. He wasn't against getting RG3. That is bullshit.

I know for a fact the Bill Polian praises Allen for how he handles contracts. Im not in love with Allen but he certainly not the worst GM in the league.
 

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a 3rd round pick and a starting CB for alleged PB qb ( which apparently means something now but not when KC was a PB qb ) who is 34 coming off an outlier season who is 34 , yes it was stupid and only a 396 mouth piece would attempt to defend the steve deberg acquisition

Many fans defend it b/c they understand in the situation we were in. You don't get that so you hate. You keep going back to what happened after 2015 and wont let it go. Is SMith a bad athlete? no. Is he ready to retire like Eli? No. Can we win with SMith? Yes.
 

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Many fans defend it b/c they understand in the situation we were in. You don't get that so you hate. You keep going back to what happened after 2015 and wont let it go. Is SMith a bad athlete? no. Is he ready to retire like Eli? No. Can we win with SMith? Yes.

most people understand giving up what we got for a 34 yr old qb isnt smart . we should have signed an FA qb and drafted a qb and we still would have had draft capitol to plug a hole or 2

this acknowledges KC wasnt in the picture (which he should have been )
 

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most people understand giving up what we got for a 34 yr old qb isnt smart . we should have signed an FA qb and drafted a qb and we still would have had draft capitol to plug a hole or 2

this acknowledges KC wasnt in the picture (which he should have been )


KC wasn't in the picture b/c of the huge money demands and he didn't want to come back here on a long term deal. . Fuller and a 3rd rounder pick was the price we had to pay to get out of this crazy situation and get a n Alex Smith who should win games for us this year.

I don't see a rookie QB or FA QB who which we will overpay for that could do better or just as good as what Smith will do for us this year. That is pure hate. That is just hate everything if KC wasn't the QB here.
 

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KC wasn't in the picture b/c of the huge money demands and he didn't want to come back here on a long term deal. . Fuller and a 3rd rounder pick was the price we had to pay to get out of this crazy situation and get a n Alex Smith who should win games for us this year.

I don't see a rookie QB or FA QB who which we will overpay for that could do better or just as good as what Smith will do for us this year. That is pure hate. That is just hate everything if KC wasn't the QB here.

it was not a price WE HAD TO PAY for a crazy situation 396 put us in , in the 1st place . we could have easily signed a FA for what we are paying smith who is as good or better and even younger and not given up a thing . last season you were telling us that those rookies could do as well or better then KC now you are backing off ?!? do you even have an ounce of memory ?
 

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true, but I think both guys are like 3m against the cap this year.

McGee is 4.8 mil hit.

McClain 4.7 million cap hit.

Both dead caps are about 40% higher if cut.

Seriously...do a google search and check your facts instead of making shit up to back your position.
 

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it was not a price WE HAD TO PAY for a crazy situation 396 put us in , in the 1st place . we could have easily signed a FA for what we are paying smith who is as good or better and even younger and not given up a thing . last season you were telling us that those rookies could do as well or better then KC now you are backing off ?!? do you even have an ounce of memory ?

whoa. I didn't want a QB last year. I wanted Allen. I think KC is overpaid for his talent. Many people do. That is it. I disagree on a FA who can come in here and perform like Alex Smith can. Who is this FA QB you speak of?
 

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whoa. I didn't want a QB last year. I wanted Allen. I think KC is overpaid for his talent. Many people do. That is it. I disagree on a FA who can come in here and perform like Alex Smith can. Who is this FA QB you speak of?
i have listed 5 in my plane to replace KC , look it up
 

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whoa. I didn't want a QB last year. I wanted Allen. I think KC is overpaid for his talent. Many people do. That is it. I disagree on a FA who can come in here and perform like Alex Smith can. Who is this FA QB you speak of?
you were talking about this years draft class and i believe a couple of the last draft class
 

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A playoff appearance would be better. lol. You are pure speculation that KC would of won a playoff game. IF we paid KC the MASSIVE contract other moves would not have been made to help this team.

Actually, because we got Smith, we will need more moves to make up for 5he best slot CB in the league (I would value that as a first round pick) and a third round pick.

We had Fuller for rd round rookie contract price. What is the going rate for best slot corner in the NFL? Hold on...let me google it. 10-14 million per season. So now to replace Fuller with a comparable talent, there goes all your QB savings.

Seriously, if you could read my shit, it would be golden.
 

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you were talking about this years draft class and i believe a couple of the last draft class

If we had a chance to draft a QB this year without giving up anything and get a guy like Darnold or Rosen. Then yes I would hate the trade and you would be correct. I will say right now we have no chance to get a top 4 QB in this years draft and I don't want Lamar Jackson. So getting Smith is the next best thing.
 

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If we had a chance to draft a QB this year without giving up anything and get a guy like Darnold or Rosen. Then yes I would hate the trade and you would be correct. I will say right now we have no chance to get a top 4 QB in this years draft and I don't want Lamar Jackson. So getting Smith is the next best thing.
no he isnt and trading those assets for a darnold or a rosen would have been better then bring in CDC (of course swapping picks is implied ) but darnold , rosen , allen and mayfield have not shown me the are day one starters capable of putting up 10 wins and winning a playoff in year one , which i said from day one when you suggested this nonsense
 

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Am I thrilled with Bruce no. Fired is a little extreme. If Smith shines he looks like the GM of the year.

Sorry man, Bruce has done enough long before this trade to have been fired.
 

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Smith would need to more than shine. Bruce has quite a bit to make up for

Bruce would need a Way-back (time machine for the youngins) machine to correct all of the fuck-ups that he's made.
 

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If we had a chance to draft a QB this year without giving up anything and get a guy like Darnold or Rosen. Then yes I would hate the trade and you would be correct. I will say right now we have no chance to get a top 4 QB in this years draft and I don't want Lamar Jackson. So getting Smith is the next best thing.

I want to say something now so that it's on the record, in drafts there are maybe two or three QB's that actually make some noise in the NFL. This years class will probably yield three of them, of the three Lamar Jackson will be one of them, unless he's the latest to be switched to another position. I could be wrong, but if not you heard it from me first.
 

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no he isnt and trading those assets for a darnold or a rosen would have been better then bring in CDC (of course swapping picks is implied ) but darnold , rosen , allen and mayfield have not shown me the are day one starters capable of putting up 10 wins and winning a playoff in year one , which i said from day one when you suggested this nonsense

So those QB's aren't but the FA QB's you mentioned can? lol
 
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